Thread:Jester of chaos/@comment-27729149-20150811065213/@comment-4708882-20150922170341

Some of them had mental illness and finally snapped much like some do in real life. I think it's safe to say with most people they at times wish to kill other in pure rage. Tragedy doesn't mean they literally couldn't control themselves always while their committing their crimes but that their life was so horrible that you can see why they decided "screw this" to a degree of the ones I mentioned I feel Darth Vader did much more then required and easy to see why not many feel bad for him

Carrie literally was drove into insanity and decided to lash out at the world that had shown her only hate and cruelty. She was never not meant to be seen as a monstrous person but a victim who after being pushed so much that her mind finally shattered with very little of her personality present. She did have remorse for her crime and in some versions if not all let her self seemingly die for her crimes. Carrie is arguably a picture perfect tragic for literature.

Jason in nearly every version only attacks when people are dumb enough to try to restart a camp that obviously should stay closed or just enter for fun what boils down to his home. People need to remember not everyone is the same mentality wise and two seemed to have mental illnesses which can make violence much more likely then those without them.

Carrie arguably was just angry and might even if had a hard time telling what was real and fantasy as some versions make it look like she sees people laughing at her when they don't during the break down. Jason also went through far beyond what most if any do in a life time and also snapped with occasionally we are lead to believe he is doin what he thinks is best (Freddy vs Jason when in Hell he relived killing while them saying they deserved to be punished. The remake he hears his mom voice telling him to kill for her).

Mr. Freeze isn't nearly as homocidal as the others (Most versions but occasionally he is) he wants the money and resources to save his wife. He tries to kill Batman mostly just because he tries to stop him, he tried to kill those who try and can stop him which not all that many normal people can and the guy who caused all the accident in DCAU. He has lashed out some and turned very homicidal at times but not always a constant. Remember he can't even enjoy most things like even taking a nice walk without a suite. He just wants to save his wife and live with her not really in it for anything like money or power just love.

That's my look on the characters and why I see these examples as tragic sorry if this doesn't help or sounds rude I was just listing my reasoning and how their reasoning can give people sympathy towards them.