Board Thread:Clean up Concerns/@comment-30861466-20170726192115/@comment-26120048-20170726200840

Loolveus wrote: I'm unsure now as to how the antagonist scale works I always assumed it went like this personally and I think this is a good way to have it. I'd like to know what some of you think.

Sole:​ Only antagonist in the story/story arc they belong in. (characters such as Feathers McGraw or Skip)

Main:​ The antagonist with the most influcence over the plot. (don't really think I need examples for this one).

Central:​ Not the main antagonist (mostly their henchmen) but has the most/majority influence over the plot. (characters such as Ghirahim fall under here and I believe that Randall Boggs  should as well).

Secondary:​ The antagonist with the second most influence over the plot (usually a henchman, again don't think I need an example)

Major: ​Sort of like what tetriary used to be, i.e someone who isn't the main or secondary antagonist but still has more influence than supporting or minor antagonists. (characters such as Maccus or Gil)

Supporting: ​Usually just supporting characters causing conflicts in the story, mostly organizations. (again don't think I need an example).

Minor: ​An antagonist who doesn't have much effect over the plot itself but is still an antagonist in the story. (again don't thinkI I need examples). I agree with most of it. Personally, I use: Main -> Secondary -> Major/Supporting (whatever fits best)-> Minor

However, I think that things like "sole antagonist" could be mentioned in triviabut I'd prefer it to still be "Main" in the introduction. I'm having trouble with "Central" as well, mostly because it overcomplicates things and thus far has led to much chaos because users have different views on what makes a villain "Main" or "Central". In my opinion, we could just leave it as main and save us the trouble.

Valkerone wrote: Another thing I'm really sick of seeing people use is:

1. True/Hidden antagonist. Not only should it just be kept at a simple "main antagonist", but the use of it starts encouraging people to fill up pages with unnecessary "misinformation campaign" (see LucidPigeon's blog on antagonist fussing via the rules for more info) garbage and I'm just going to remove it every time I see it.

2. Main, later secondary antagonist or vice versa. Seriously people, it's one or the other. Make your minds up and pick one. Again, I will change it to which ever or "one of the two main antagonists" every time I see it.

But yeah, I really think the whole "let's specify antagonists with tertiary or quaternary etc." thing has gone on long enough on this Wiki and needs to stop and be replaced with the alternatives you suggested.. Agree as well, but as these ones are officially no longer in use, there is not much we can do but removing it whenever we see it and to remind users who add stuff like that.