Thread:Jester of chaos/@comment-31330278-20180211164358/@comment-31330278-20191014094604

1. Wu's heroic sister, aside from being Heather's complete foil, will serve both as a strong female lead in the rebooted JP3 and enabling the good people to get Amanda (and Paul with her) killed for her sins. In addition to Cynthia Wu, here are my other main points for rebooting JP3:


 * Spino-Rex: His statues as a hybrid will be more clear. His motive will be better than just a ravenous hybrid, and overall more like I-Rex than like himself. A youtuber named Clayton Fioriti made a video about the possibility there was more than one Spino-Rex, and the unhinged one we seen killing the t-rex and chasing the characters was avenging his dead mate (the one who got the airplane to the face). His superpowers will be more than bad writing, and he'll be killed on-screen. Maybe by the genius raptors, like one of the drafts wanted. If not the raptors, Tembo and Grant can kill him together.


 * Amanda and Paul - Saving their son is very nice of them, but the reason he got there in the first place was their own fault. The real miracle is not surviving two months without them. it's surviving 13 years with them. Instead of getting to the island because his parents are too dumb to live, he'll be abducted by criminals who'll try to extort his parents, but got stuck in Isla Sorna. Eventually he will escape and hiding from both the remaining criminals and from predators.


 * Grant - he won't be the raptor-obsessed broken man he was in the canon. His character decay was a major reason for why this movie was just good (at best) rather than awesome as the other 4. In my reboot, Grant will be just like his first movie version. Just like in "Neimerhold 2", Tembo can work in the JP3 reboot just fine. Thanks for opening my eyes about it. In case of using Tembo, his motive will be saving the boy. Him and Grant might get well together. For Tembo, "Grant is a male Sarah minus the ideals taking over her brain". For Grant, "Tembo is Muldoon's second chance in life".


 * Billy Brennan - Taking the raptors egg was one of the most stupid decisions in the franchise. It can make sense only if he was more devious than the movie gives him credit for. In my version, he'll do it for the main human antagonist, who'll try to create a secret police of genius raptors.


 * The main human antagonist - Either the leader of the remaining criminals, a complete psychopath who killed some of his comrades for self consumption and luring the carnivores away, Dodgson (he might be one of the criminals. Not contradicting), Jeff Rossiter (Dodgson's technical boss from the original second novel. Someone on the villains fanon wiki had an interesting idea about it) or one of the scientist who worked with Doctor Wu on the creation of Spino-Rex. Whoever he'll be, he'll be Billy's secret boss. All options above are psychopaths, even in the very slim chance they'll be redeemable.


 * The genius raptors - They are based on the genius green raptors from the novel. Crichton himself admitted that raptors are not that intelligent, especially if not raised. These raptors will either have a good reason to be geniuses, or being raised by the top criminal/Dodgson/Rossiter/rogue scientist the way a pack of German shepherds might be raised by a dog abuser. As said, the good people should've let the raptors kill Spino-Rex. That's what I want to do.


 * A black character - One of my changes in the reboots for JP2, JP3 and JW:FK is better representations of blacks. But for the sake of this topic, i'll focus on the specific black character who'll be found on Isla Sorna. My original idea was a likeable black dude, but I came to consider the possibility of a Sudanic genius who can replace Amanda in case Cynthia won't work as well as I hope. Also, good thinking about Tiana as a model for the possible black scientist. Disney would be proud of you.


 * An actual emotional weight - For me, the real biggest problem with part 3 is that the good people had the dubious honor to create a movie with parents who tries to save their son, but without any emotional weight. If I haven't seen JP3, I could never imagine it's even physically possible.

2. Off topic: Thanks for voting :-). Great arguments there. I've also came to consider a possible episode of Joffrey vs Henry Evans or something. Probably not in the near future, but if do go for it, do you see Lord Becket as a good replacement for Joffrey? And if not Henry, who do you see as the best rival for Joffrey?

On topic: Sounds like the demons did everything in their power to turn the guardians into Lovecraftian horrors. In that sense, Kain is an MIG who saved the world. If the elder god you mentioned is worse than Malthael, he's probably similar to a bigger scaled version of Rourke. at least 40% of his atrocities are not even for gain, if not outright contradict his interest. I can guess it's also true for the old god. Does he realize the demons are planning to kill him too, or did he become what he is because the demons corrupted him? Also, do you prefer Kain as an heroic MIG, or as a villainous MIG?

3. Does James reminds you of Euron Greyjoy? If not him, which pragmatic and hypercompetent villain comes in your mind?

4A. We used to call her "the green monster", because her cloths were always green. I had some snarky comments toward her, such as "you have a unique beauty, never seen before" (if she wasn't explicitly a woman, people could think she's James Gandolfini with breast) and "how's the number one administrative manager?" (she was the only one of her kind at the said workplace). The weird thing about her is that she succeed at slandering the poor girl, but couldn't improve her own rotten reputation. Some people I love dearly say she's so diabolical because she's insecure. I'm not saying I agree, but there are insecure psychopaths such as Lord Shen, so maybe Tatum Kane applies too. While she's technically a female Winter rather than a female Gul'dan, she have some shades of Douglas and the witch doctor. Will the witch doctor be insecure too? And do you agree with the statement that in some cases, being insecure make a villain more repulsive rather than less?

4B. The rest will come as soon as I can, but there's a new problem in this wiki i'm dealing with: I need to create information boxes from scratch. Many wikis have those, and I just don't know how invent an information box of my own wiki. How do I do that? The important things are basic information and the reason each character fits to this wiki.

5A. If you're interested in a canon movie about fairytale shattering, soon we'll have "Maleficent: Mistress of Evil". As far as I know, Aurora will marry Prince Philip (he better be more interesting than his animated counterpart) and will deal with Michelle Pfeiffer as the true mistress of evil. In fiction, many unnaturally beautiful women are Jills, so I have reasons to speculate Michelle's character will be a Jill. Given the nature of the conflict, the new "Maleficent" will be either "The Fox and the Hound" all over again, or a version of "Romeo and Juliet" where Lady Montagu is the exact female version of Lord Capulet, and Lady Capulet will be more like Molly and Fiona. I hope it will be more like a Disney movie than like Shakespeare. Which option would you put your money on?

5B. Does the fact Jester isn't too likely to get along with his real-life counterparts means he secretly hate himself, or at least hate his Matthews Mattius Longstreet part of him?

5C. Thanatos sounds even better now :-). The drunk god is too drunk to notice, so it's realistic for the better and for the morbid at the same time. When you wrote Jester as reviving his loved ones with their free will still intact, were you inspired from the scene in "Bruce Almighty" where him and Morgan Freeman's god discussed about free will and influencing emotions as contradicting?

5D. Sorry for not being clear. I meant to the horseman, not to the angel. If you're looking for ways to improve the ghouls, you can look at Arthas Menethil and his own disturbing ghouls. This guy could be the horseman of death like nothing. And he could bend Light Yagami completely, but that's for another topic.