Thread:Magma Dragoon/@comment-27586321-20140901155444/@comment-1672596-20140901161943

Robinsonbecky wrote: Since when does it ever say that. Also, there are multiple versions of the Joker that are not CMs. An example would be the version of the Joker from Batman: The Brave and' the Bold'.

"◾ They commit acts that are atrocious by the standards of the story, and have crossed the Moral Event Horizon. ◾ They cause fear, revulsion or hatred from other characters in the story. ◾ They are never presented in a positive way, ◾ Nothing justifies their crimes, and they cannot feel empathy and never redeem themselves. "

Frollo actually did redeem himself in the English musical, which was derived directly from the Disney film.