Thread:Magma MK-II/@comment-2059440-20180702180853/@comment-2059440-20180702181940

for example he saves Superman's father from Krypton's destruction only to condition him into seeing only the worst of humanity, which turns him into Mister Oz - who tries to get Superman to abandon Earth and stop being Superman.. ironically Jol's humanity awakens after he's forced to harm his son but Manhattan just spirits him off, probably to erase him.

he's basically gone supervillain mode, regardless of whatever ultimate goal he may have - at this point even if he ends up "saving" the multiverse or something his methods have just gone too far and he'd be a Well-Intentioned Extremist at best.