Thread:Panzysoldat/@comment-31330278-20190725214555/@comment-31330278-20190726154548

1. I agree about Jamal. People like him are real, and actually more dangerous than serial killers. Beth wasn't cartoonish. She was sick in the head (more sick than Jill, despite Jill being more evil) and disturbing. Some say even scary. Mickey was cartoonish in a good way. Entertaining. Stu was cartoonish in a disturbing way. Kieran is cartoonish only compare to other pure evil killers. He did some serious mistakes for a mastermind, but i wouldn't call him cartoonish. Also, dont worry about expanding Beth's article. I just finished it:

https://villains.fandom.com/wiki/Beth_(Scream)

Any new editing will be a blessing, but now it would be more charity than necessity.

2. Horror films reflects life better than some think. Not to the sick degree people like Beth, Billy and Jill see it. I hope you know what i meant. Are you saying that real criminals are not always as smart as horror movies shows them to be? That's an interesting point.

3. For some reason, Spiderman working with the Avengers doesnt make too sense for me. I like him better at movies like " Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse". It's a must for every Spiderman fan. Emma Stone would be proud.

4. I still like the ghostface costume better. Now, if we put Piper and Kieran out of the ranking, here's my current ghostface ranking:

1st. Roman tied with Jill. The known reasons.

2nd. Jamal "Harlemface" Elliot. He have the second best motive (avenging his dead sibling and take his revenge on the man who walked around with the dead sibling's identity), half of his kills are two people who deserved it (if you count Avery as a justified kill, then he have 3 well-earned victims) and he ballanced between brutality and realism, and i consider him as the second most sympathetic killer so far (i might change my mind after a second watch, but that's the direction).

3rd. Mickey. '''He went down 2 places because of Jamal. As entertaining as he is, it's just isn't enough to outrank the best soldier in the franchise so far.'''

4th. Debbie. The known reasons, in addition to be one of the few killers who know the concept of self-preservation

5th. Billy. The known reasons.

6th. Beth "Gothface" Whigham. '''Stupid motive, couldn't hide her maliciousness, not very unique in the franchise's standard, her strategy of being annoying so people won't suspect her was already done before and better, actually most of the other killers were better at hiding their villainy from the other characters, and overall her only real advantage is being played by Giorgia Whigham. She's a very pretty face and that's it.'''

7th. Stu. The known reasons.

8th. Charlie. The known reasons, in additions to climing higher in the villainy chart and lower in the brutality chart.

When you really think about it, Frank Underwood is a ghostface too, because he killed Neve Campbell's character and have a body count of no less than 3. Would you rank him?