Thread:LucidPigeons/@comment-4048025-20151225040528/@comment-366087-20151225100314

Except…

According to the Rules They really do not belong on .
 * 6.1 Jerk ≠ Villain
 * (Italics mine)
 * Please be mindful not to add a character to this wiki unless he or she is established as a villain in their setting


 * 6.2 Flawed Hero ≠ Villain
 * (Italics mine)
 * The number of articles about anti-heroic characters is no longer acceptable - this is a VILLAINS Wiki and we need to keep it that way. Being a simple "jerk" will no longer be valid. A character should have either malicious intent or be actually dangerous to count. From now on "grumpy", "not nice" or "mean" as reasons for a character being here will be ignored and the content erased - start showing us actual deeds that are malicious (and NO, name-calling and minor "bullying" will not count anymore). This is similar to the above rule but will sum up to "just because something offends you does not make it evil / immoral" - from now on PROVE to us the character is criminal, immoral or dangerous, otherwise we will erase it.


 * 6.3 Antagonist ≠ Villain
 * (Italics mine)
 * Most people tend to confuse these two terms. By definition, antagonist is a character who opposes the protagonist/protagonists, while villain is a wicked character who does evil. While they may overlap, they are completely different things. That being said, do not add pages for antagonists who aren't shown as being evil/wicked, especially if they are good characters or on the side of law.


 * 6.1 says they must be "established as a villain in their setting." Established. Not Fan speculated or reasoned.
 * 6.2 says being Jerks is not enough and not valid.
 * 6.3 explains the difference between an antagonist and a villain, that the latter "is a wicked character who does evil" and not to add characters "especially if they are good characters or on the side of law".

Now, Sharpay is an antagonist for most of her franchise, and for all her scheming she falls short of wicked or evil.

Sam is a protagonist, in specific, the series' deuteragonist. Despite her flaws and being a jerk—not valid enough—she is nonetheless "a good guy" and on the side of the law especially thanks to Carly Shay's influences, and also is not "wicked or evil".

According to the criteria in these Rules, Neither of these characters are fitting for this wikia.

BTW, re: Snips and Snails…
 * Possessed/Brainwashed
 * We do not allow articles about heroes who have become "villains" due to brainwashing, possession or other scenario that makes them lose control of their actions (with the only exception being criminal insanity) - characters under a "spell" or hypnotism are victims, they have no control over what they are doing and thus they fail the basic criteria for antagonism (that is, deliberate attempts to cause suffering). The category Possessed/Brainwashed is ONLY meant for villains like Golbez, who USED to be benevolent characters but whose personality changed for the worse due to corruption. So much that they are almost only remembered as the villain they became.


 * They were jerks, sure, but they were simply followers who did not set out to become demons. They were made into demons by the demonic 'SciTwi', herself also possessed and taken over by the out of control magics, and of course the subsequent actions of ALL THREE fits this ruling.