Board Thread:Clean up Concerns/@comment-30861466-20170913151818

Okay so with the recent discussion about Rat from Lady & the Tramp I feel like this should be brought up. Antagonists are characters opposing the protagonists of a story which means villains mostly are antagonists but antagonists aren't always villains. For example villains who are legitimate villains are still antagonists but qualify as villains while characters such as Denahi from Brother Bear or ​Cheryl Blossom from Riverdale ​are antagonists but NOT villains Denahi was a misunderstood man who thought a bear killed his brother and just wanted revenge while Cheryl is just a classic High-School bitch, now yes characters like that can be villains but in those cases the characters are mind breakers, manipulators, adulterers, racists, etc still making them qualify. Heroic antagonists are a thing as well with the most famous example being L from Death Note ​(excluding the 2017 movie in which he is a villain) ​the main antagonist in the anime and manga while Light Yagami is the main protagonist but a villain, another example would be D.A Harrisson from Chicago ​a supporting antagonist but not a villain since he opposes the three protagonists (all three being villains; one of which being the main antagonist) due to his black and white judgement of the law; this makes him a character the audience usually roots for and is a hero but in this case he is an antagonist since the protagonists are villains. However adaptional heroism and villainy should be concidered for example Snowbell from ​Stuart Little ​was indeed a villain in the novel but only a reformed antagonist later full-on protagonist in the movies, his page was falsely deleted due to not many people knowing about the book.

Finding Nemo is also full of antagonists with the only one coming close to a villain being the Barracuda. The point of all of this is to make people aware of the difference since characters like Jackson Storm have gotten re-added multiple times.

Basically to qualify as a villain they do have to commit crimes, preferably crimes that hurt the protagonists or innocent in some way.

I myself may not be seen as a reliable source however the Rules can tell you alot of this as well without the long drawn out examples.

If you've made it this far thanks for reading. 