Thread:LucidPigeons/@comment-6489422-20150725153720

A wiki who actively abolishes standards? You mean ATT? No, we still have our own standards there - they're just not heavy-handed, arbritary and draconian to the point of trying to drown out all breezy language and original thought. What you consider "not enough" to qualify for the trope or what TVT considers "not enough" might very well be "enough" over there if it's in line with the criteria given in the definition on the actual main trope page, as well as the regulations stated in the analysis page. For the love of God, this does not have to be as sophisticated and exclusive a trope as people make it out to be - it was never envisioned and intended to be such. If a villain, any villain, showcases no truly redemptive qualities, commits actions that are truly heinous by the standards of their work and narrative, as bad as they can manage within their scale and with their resources, and evoke fear, hatred, and revulsion from others, then they're a genuine candidate for CM. Attempting to raise the bar of expectations for qualifiers because oooh it's COMPLETE Monster, this tropes has to really mean something is just anal and doesn't do anyone any good in the long run.

I didn't mean to snap at you personally, but I'm so tired of the troubles that have emerged from this trope. 