Thread:Jester of chaos/@comment-3999269-20161115210845/@comment-4708882-20161115215052

I remember being told Noah Mahn came from a setting wasn't that dark at first until he showed up with only one other dark villain (forgot the name they said). If it's grim-dark from the start no one could count due to even the darkest character can't make up for it being dark already. X-Men and most modern comics often fail to have a Game Changer because they don't sugarcoat the setting or make it to where anything is meant to be lighthearted. Apocalypse while dark can't change the fact even from the start the X-Men did their best to keep a serious and somewhat dark story line by showcasing the racism and even attempted genocide due to both the fear the general public had. Was Noah Manh's setting beyond the bare basic "Oh no there is a thief" and known to have genocide or mass killings often to the point it was unheard of at the time before Noah? This is a honest question since I never read the Extinctioners comics. I agree he's a destroyer of innocence and vile guy but if it wasn't uncommon to have dark and serious moments then he doesn't fully count as a Game Changer himself.