Thread:LucidPigeons/@comment-27729149-20151204153148/@comment-27560932-20160101132812

Once more, all I'm asking is to keep a clear mind. Kylo Ren murdering his father was an invoked example of a Moral Event Horizon; he's likely gonna be pulled out of it.

And Kylo Ren wasn't directly involved with the destruction of the Hosnian System; you can blame Hux (and by extension Snoke) for that. Same deal with Tarkin and Alderaan.