Thread:Jester of chaos/@comment-1672596-20161008195800/@comment-1672596-20161024154336

Jester of chaos wrote: Just like in reality history is written by the winner that was the feeling I got. Sure the Jedi weren't perfect but they didn't create a weapon to destroy worlds or do nearly as evil acts as Palpatine. Palpatine fits all the criteria perfectly and they just didn't portray the world as absolute either way nor so Black and White but that again just makes the story more realistic. Even then Palpatine was never portrayed in a positive light in fact he is merely portayed as a egotstical and power hungry tyrant who easily surpassed anyone in heinousness of the films and arguably even the old Legends / Expanded Universe. Correct me if I'm mistaken, but didn't the Jedi attempt to commit genocide to such an extent that 97.8% of the Imperial population alone would have to be slaughtered just for their Sith ancestry? That sounds a lot worse than just building a battle station capable of destroying a planet (which even then it isn't particularly clear if blowing up his own people was his intention because it's also stated that he built it and the military up specifically to drive out the Yuuzhan Vong). Besides, the most evil groups in history, such as the USSR, the French Jacobins, various Communist front groups during the Cold War, didn't even NEED superweapons to slaughter countless people.

And honestly, claiming the world is all greys or both heroes and villains are pretty much no different from each other in (a)morality isn't realistic either. In fact, I'd argue that the black and white approach is in fact far more realistic than gray characters. Just ask the Marquis de Sade, he's a real life card-carrying villain if you've read his quotes, made clear he was a debauched monster and was proud of it.