Thread:Mesektet/@comment-9062114-20140604051045/@comment-25035722-20140607175939

The Imperials are cruel, torturous, murdering monsters. Whether you believe these actions were undertaken mainly at the behest of the Thalmor is irrelevant. The Empire has agreed to enact atrocities in their name - this is absolutely unacceptable. Tullius is a callous and ignorant tyrant-governor, resorting to outright execution of "unwanted" individuals without trial or inquiry. He makes no qualms with letting the player know he doesn't know or care about Nord customs, wants or needs, as shown in this quote: "Well Ulfric, you can't escape from me this time. Any last words before I send you to... to wherever you people go when you die." This is RIGHT BEFORE he kills Ulfric, when he could have easily said nothing and still done the deed. Players' standpoint is indeed subjective plot-wise, but Tullius (and his puppet-empire) is the true villain of the story, however you look at it.

It's ironic to characterize Ulfric as merely a racist against Dunmer and Argonians. Ulfric has no personal love of the Dunmer, yet neither do the Dunmer like most non-dark elf races. Dunmer have been raiding, plundering, capturing, and enslaving the Nord people (among many others) for thousands of years. They are extremely intolerant of outsiders (which they like to remind whomever they encounter, are "outlanders"), are generally nasty, rude and openly shun those not born among them as inherently inferior. If Ulfric knows all of this, he has most certainly grown to resent them because of it.

If not liking to see his country enslaved and put under the thumb of a Thalmor-controlled puppet Empire, the banishment of open Talos worship in a country where it is CENTRAL to everyday existence, and the execution/capture of unwanted people makes Ulfric a villain, then nothing I can say can convince you otherwise.



Never thought I’d get this passionate over a damn PC game. I just really don't understand peoples' justification for violence/tyranny.