Thread:Jester of chaos/@comment-38785722-20190317004420/@comment-25008763-20190320222745

okay I looked up Helga on the Arnold website, she's not even listed under "antagonist" - she's thus a flawed character, heck, I remember now her dad was very neglectful and most of her attacks on Arnold were due to her having a crush : it states in her bio she has a tough attitude, sometimes goes too far but will defend people if it goes too far.

sorry but if that's a villain then we'd have to bring back Roger from Doug, Squidward and (yes I'm going to just outright say it) Rainbow Dash.. heck, even Sonic from Sonic the Comic (the UK's version of Sonic) was a complete jerk..

here's an example: Sonic told Tails he was stupid and wasting his time, downright bullied Porker etc but he was still not a villain.. another great example is Jimmy from Bully : who literally says "I only give people what they have coming to them" - this means Jimmy is literally a bully.. yet is also the main hero of his story.

a lot of heroes (especially flawed ones) can be bullies.. usually they grow out of it and I believe Helga did just that and became a better person as the show grew up.

also "acts evil" is not enough.. or we'd have Jack Sparrow, Jack Skellington and the Monsters Inc team on this wiki too.. I mean prior to learning it was wrong the entire cast of Monsters Inc. made a living via terrorising children - I think what separates a villain from a flawed hero or jerk is this : flawed / jerks have limits and when they know what they are doing is wrong they try and stop and be better people.. villains do not.