Thread:Jester of chaos/@comment-5653781-20151210190316/@comment-26884760-20151210200729

actually no Jester, here's an example of how bad Betty can get: Abusive Farmer

what I was trying to say is Old Man is pretty mild by standards of Betty cartoons but he is still basically an early era animated villain (trust me 20s and 30s were plenty violent and had drugs, sex and so on in them.. weirdly enough..)

The Old Man is tricky for modern audiences because it's done entirely in song and dance, I don't think it is easy putting a plot together from those kinds of stories but it shouldn't disqualify them either.

(also Ringmaster was much more obvious, to the point of near on-screen rape.. it was a strange series of cartoons but has a big legacy (obviously, since Betty is still a recognized image) )