User blog comment:Magma MK-II/Complete Monster: Characters to be removed/@comment-27786772-20160222223427/@comment-26205772-20160223192723

@Love Robin: Two problems that come with the nature of the trope. Firstly, although the Complete Monster is still beholden to a series of strict guidelines, the nature of "the most heinous character" is bound to be subjective to some regard. Any given person might see a villain whom one sees as irredeemably evil to be not heinous enough; that's me with a lot of villains others see as CMs. The other is that the Coachman does display, in my opinion, enough of a personality that leans to the fact he definitely enjoys what he does, or is at the very least wholly unrepentant about it. His actions as is are heinous enough and the Coachman still has a character we can measure.

@EvilLamp: I'll offer counterpoints to all three of your points:

1. Once more, that's Alternate Character Interpretation. There's nothing in the movie proper to uphold this theory; he can be interpreted as a form of karmic punishment, but in the movie proper he's just a greedy asshole who's turning kids into donkeys for profit.

2. There's a very brief implication that the Coachman may be demonic, but he's never explicitly stated to be Satan, or even a demon, for that matter. It relies on one change in his animation that may just be there as a visual similie or otherwise.

3. "Not as heinous as his novel counterpart" is meaningless because of two reasons. One, Pinocchio is an adaptation, with its own universe and heinous standard. The two should be measured by the standards of their respective works, not by each other's. Secondly, remember Pinocchio is a Disney film, and by the means of being family-friendly (regardless as terrifying as the film can be) the Coachman logically can't be as brutal as his novel counterpart, who actually was meant as a sort of cautionary tale.