Thread:Jester of chaos/@comment-34389022-20180119035957/@comment-34389022-20180119040915

Jester of chaos wrote: From what I recall those points were brought up but that it's a brief brainwashing type effect vs him being possessed long enough to qualify. I personally say no bacause it sounds too much like a briefly possessed hero to truly belong here when he's been a hero for many decades.

he wasn't brainwashed - it was actually a gradual thing, he changed as a character and became darker *because* he had been a hero for so long.. he started to go crazy, much as a soldier would after a lot of fighting.. he did get redeemed but it took several storyarcs for him to do so.

I don't like that Marvel made many of its heroes villainous for certain storyarcs and they do redeem themselves but canon (such as stands) is that Scott did these acts willingly - the sole exception being Dark Phoenix, but by then he was already corrupted by his actions.

it's like when Green Arrow became a bad guy in Arrow, because he went too far, he redeems but his past actions were willing.