Thread:Jester of chaos/@comment-27729149-20150602022947/@comment-25008763-20150817132635

in comics especially it is almost impossible to keep a Complete Monster status because comics make so many sweeping changes in canon and character development, often making former CMs into sympathetic sorts or turning former "boyscout" heroes in to CMs..

remember that one of Marvel's more recent events literally involved all the "good" guys turning fascist and the "bad" guys becoming moral (such as a heroic Carnage).

there's a very good reason many people can't understand comic books, unlike the films (that are made for large audiences) comic books tend to go in completely random and confusing directions that make surreal Picasso painting seem logical in comparison.

I love comic books but I can't deny the fact they are extremely confusing things and writers often ignore or rewrite other writers work on a whim, which I don't really helps the industry but hell.. it's been going on since at least Stan Lee and Kirby's era so I can't very well tell them "you're doing it wrong".

The only characters that tend to stay CMs are ones with real world influences, who if a comic made "heroic" they'd get Unfortunate Implications.. therefor Nazis like Red Skull always remain villainous (heroic Nazis is not something Marvel's comfortable with, yet) and the KKK inspired Soul Strangler will never be on the side of "good" (because a heroic KKK demon would be, uhm, slightly offensive).. then we have Hate-Monger, the literal clone of Hitler.. Marvel won't make him a good guy any time soon since heroic Nazis is one thing but a heroic Hitler would be pushing it..

to put it in focus.. Darkseid, DCs embodiment of evil, frequently aids Superman against larger threats such as Doomsday or Crisis Villains.. Superman himself FREQUENTLY changes from boyscout to a guy who destroys entire worlds just to "keep people safe".. and we all know that in comics Iron Man is basically a villain with good publicity these days.