Thread:LucidPigeons/@comment-366087-20160126100400/@comment-366087-20160131001817

Agreed there should be.

Okay, looked at Darth Vader's Cats. Including all for completeness.

I'll be checking Cat Defs and commenting as I go. Some I'll ask for clarification since I've not seen ALL media for the character in question Whew!! What a mouthful. I petered out halfway through, lol.
 * Category:Science Fiction Villains - ok
 * Category:Movie Villains - ok
 * Category:Science Fantasy Villains - ok
 * Category:Star Wars Villains - ok
 * Category:Book Villains - ok
 * Category:Live Action Villains - ok
 * Category:Comic Book Villains - ok
 * Category:Mascots - ok
 * Category:Male Villains - ok
 * Category:Heroes turned to the Dark Side - ok
 * Recommend "Dark Sided", "Turned to Evil", "Alignment Shift", or "Realignment". Truthfully, "Heel Turned" is the most succinct although I know y'all want to divorce y'allselves from TVT
 * Category:Rogue Protagonist
 * When, ever? As Anakin perhaps? The difference between "Darth Vader" and "Anakin Skywalker" is talking about 2 different people, so Cats applying to Anakin should not be used for Vader
 * Category:Fighter
 * Made redundant by both "Swordsmen" and "One Man Army". Frankly I can't recall him ever weaponless or without the Force. Certainly does not Define him
 * Category:Swordsmen - ok
 * Category:Telekinetics - ok
 * Category:Telepaths
 * Not so much. This also does not ''Define" Vader; sure he was able to divine Luke's feelings and the existence of a sister, but I would not say it was something he did enough to warrant this tag
 * Category:Villains with Superhuman Strength - ok
 * Category:Speedster
 * Not so much. Sure he had superior reflexes, but how much of it was speed and how much of it was "Force precipitance"? Again, should define the character, which IMO this doesn't
 * Category:Stranglers - ok
 * Category:Friend of the hero
 * Uhm, Who?? Maybe as Anakin, but I don't recall Vader being any hero's friend
 * Category:Married Villains - ok
 * Category:Military Villains
 * This warrants consideration. I don't think Vader was actually a part of the Empire's Military as much as the Emperor's representative. Didn't Tarkin say something to the effect? Just before the force stranglehold?
 * Category:Extremists - debateable
 * Category:Traitor - ok
 * Category:Paranoid Villains - when???
 * Category:Apprentice
 * Category:Right-Hand
 * Category:Dark Lord
 * Category:Dark Knights - redundant, supplanted by "Dark Lord"
 * Category:Hegemony
 * this needs a better title as the word means a type of government instead of someone seeking to rule. Might be covered by "Power hungry"
 * Category:Enforcer - redundant, covered by "Right Hand"
 * Category:Outright Villains - ok
 * Category:Mass Murderer - ok
 * Category:Child Murderer - debateable
 * Actually Anakin was this, although as the final straws of his goodness. Sure it could be said he did it then, he probably did it as Vader since, but is it Canon, did we ever see it after he dons the mask?
 * Category:Archenemy - possible redundant, covered by "The Heavy", or vice versa
 * Category:Mechanically Modified - ok
 * Category:Masked Villain - ok
 * Category:Parents - ok
 * Category:Paternal Villains
 * No. He is a Parent, yes, but he was in no way "paternal" or guiding to anyone I'm aware of. Just saying "I am your father" is not enough, especially as Luke rejected him
 * Category:Seeker Of Vengeance
 * Again, this is more Anakin than Vader
 * Category:Fearmongers - ok
 * Category:Power Hungry - ok
 * Category:Misanthropes
 * Vader does not hate himself or humanity
 * Category:Failure-Intolerant Villains - ok
 * Category:Torturer - ok
 * Category:War Criminals
 * War criminals are after a war is finished, defined by the Victors. During wars they are The Enemy. Either way, Vader was dead before the Empire fell
 * Category:Vehicular Villains
 * Category:Destroyer of Innocence
 * Category:Master of Hero - Who????
 * Category:Provoker
 * Not sure this defines Vader, not even with his taunting Luke, and is certainly overshadowed by all else he's done
 * Category:Master Manipulator - was he really?
 * Category:Propagandists - maybe
 * Category:Evil Vs. Evil
 * if this is his turning on Palpatine, again, does not Define Vader or his actions. Evil usually turns on Evil, it is its nature, "no honor among thieves" etc. Arguably Dexter Morgan is a prime example of this.
 * Category:Hatemongers - maybe
 * Category:Magnificent Bastards - ok
 * Category:Blackmailers - ???
 * Category:Betrayed villains - ???
 * Category:Redeemed Villains - ok
 * Category:Deceased Villains - ok
 * Category:Recurring villain
 * Well, …duh!! Is this Category even necessary? If someone is not Category:One-Shot Villains, they are "recurring". One of these Cats should go
 * Category:Villains who are biologically related to the hero - ok, but too wordy
 * Category:Grandparents
 * debateable since he was not alive when his grandchildren were born, and by then he was redeemed again as Anakin. This Cat should apply to Characters whose lives overlap that of their children, with rare exception
 * Category:Laser-Users - ok
 * Category:Psychics
 * See Telepaths above, which if valid is redundant by it
 * Category:Villains who have Died with Honor - ok
 * too wordy, recommend renaming to either "Died with Honor" or "Honorable Death"
 * Category:Crossover Villains - ok
 * Category:Wrathful Villains
 * Does not define him
 * Category:One-Man Army - ok, makes "Fighter" above redundant
 * Category:Disciplinarians
 * Not so much. Torturer, but I don't recall him "disciplining" anyone. At any rate, redundant against
 * Category:Strategic Villains
 * Category:Magi-Tech
 * Category:Scarred Villains
 * Category:Pawns
 * Category:The Heavy
 * Category:Manga Villains
 * Category:Cinemassacre Villains
 * Category:Cartoon Villains
 * Category:Final Boss
 * Category:Warlords
 * Category:Death Battle Villains
 * Category:Oppressors
 * Category:Incriminators
 * Category:Action Movie Villains
 * Category:Bosses
 * Category:Mutilators
 * Category:Sophisticated Villains
 * Category:Fascists
 * Category:Corrupting Influence
 * Category:Lawful Evil
 * Category:Genocidal Villains
 * Category:Warmonger
 * Category:TV Show Villains
 * Category:Dark Messiah - Anakin
 * Category:Evil Genius
 * Category:Evil Creator - Anakin
 * Category:Ghosts
 * Category:Protective Villains - of luke? not defining of this character
 * Category:Megalomaniacs
 * Category:Usurper
 * Category:In love villains
 * Category:Delusional
 * Category:Servant of Hero - Who????
 * Category:Planet Destroyer
 * Category:Evil Teacher - Who?
 * Category:Hero's Lover
 * Category:Leader
 * Category:Villains with Dissonant Serenity - nope
 * Category:Empowered Villains
 * Category:Abusers
 * Category:Supervillains - redundant with "Empowered"
 * Category:Control Freaks - debateable
 * Category:Gaolers
 * This Cat needs a serious renaming. What is wrong with "jailer"? Contributors should be able to recognize a Cat's purpose
 * Category:Protagonist Villain
 * Category:Xenophobes - Don't recall him being xenophobic or even hating a species
 * Category:Type dependent on Version
 * Category:Tragic Villain
 * Category:Supremacists
 * Category:Social Darwinists
 * Category:Robot Chicken Villains
 * Category:Slavedrivers
 * Category:Envious Villains

Right off the bat, my primary recommendation is to drop nearly every usage of the word "villain". It is redundant; every character on this wikia has to qualify as a villain, as even "simple antagonist" is not enough. Look at the sheer number of words in that list, with nearly each entry with "villain" in it. Seriously, have you guys taken in the mass at the bottom of some of these pages?? Dropping that 1 word will immediately cut the "wall'o'text" bulk by nearly 2/3s to almost in half.