Thread:LucidPigeons/@comment-366087-20160222085214/@comment-366087-20160226162223


 * Purpose
 * is Villains Wiki to be its own site, or a redress of TV Tropes? If the latter, fine. If the former, then I fully and heartily endorse a complete divorcing from TVT terminology and ceasing and dropping any usage of them as categories, and where necessary change terms and labels. Explain *in articles* how and why Character X is "Category:XYZ", preferably with citations like episodes and volumes or whatev is media-appropriate so a visitor can go find and or obtain them themselves


 * Limitations
 * Far, Far, Faaaar too many categories are being applied to pages. Many have more categories than words in the article itself. As I mentioned elsewhere, give them too many choices and editors will try to use all they can.
 * Recommend limitations be placed in a manner *along the lines of:*
 * Personal info, 1-8 of things such as Male or Female (possibly "Other Gender", "LGBT", maybe "Genderbent"), (Grand?)Parents, Siblings, Related to Hero, Age grouping (Adult, Teen, Kid)
 * Media Venues, 1-5 of TV, Movie, Animated (Cartoon, Animé, CGI, other animation) Graphic (comic books, strips), Literary (books and novels), Internet and or Meme, Crossovers
 * Branding, up to 2 of things such as Marvel, DC (WB, CW?), Disney, etc.
 * Franchise, up to 3
 * Most Important *Defining* traits (includes "powers"): 1-15 of Aliens, Preternatural (as opposed to "supernatural" which is used for the TV Series) or "Unnatural", Deceased (with subcats), and whatever else survives any Category purging.
 * The numbers suggested are off the top of my head and can be adjusted more or less after a test period.

Seriously, there are too many contributors who are *only* adding Cats, and they are of every category they can find even 1 frame fitting them.

I also challenge how many people *ever* use a Category as a Search Tool, meaning open the Cat Page (here or any wikia) to scan the contents listed therein to find other similar pages. For something other than Gender and or Media and Branding. Ask of yourself. I'll wager even most the ones most in favor and fervor for using "Complete Monster" and "Knights of Cerebus" have not opened those cat pages. Perhaps for a quote change or spelling—at best try to add subcats—but not as a search tool to find like pages.

And asking the community will usually be exercises in futility as it is obvious before even opening such questions most *like* things as they are.


 * Retitling/Relabeling
 * Most of this should be addressed by dropping and or changing from tVT terms, but even among any which survive such a purging, some of the labels of cats are not in clear english. Basically, if a visitor, as opposed to someone intimately familiar with TVT and VW, need to open a category page to learn what the hell it means, It NEEDS to be CHANGED.

Finally, I reiterate that contributors need to be trained/encouraged to write better, more informative articles than worry about what categories to hang under them.