Thread:Jester of chaos/@comment-29414935-20181201153231/@comment-29414935-20181219211008

It's more like that "simply an ironic defeat by achieving their desire but quickly regretting it.".

If I think about it, I really can also make him a perfect Tragic villain, and play his nihilism as understandable and that the heroes trying to show him and the other nihilist villains that there is much good in life and not only the bad stuff. But I don't know if that stuff really fits in this kind of story.

So do you mean like different methods in their crimes they did? (Like murder, rape, torture ect) and what do you mean with "personal"? To the hero?