Thread:Pigletisbacon/@comment-6489422-20140915045351/@comment-6489422-20140917143555

I really feel that we shouldn't need to adhere to TV Tropes' "heinous standard", especially their insistence on a criteria of "baseline heinousness" which is nowhere on the actual trope page's description and definition of the trope. Cyrus may have been an Omnicidal Maniac, but there have always been villains operating on a smaller scale that end up being worse than he is. In the anime, it was Hunter J. In the "Diamond And Pearl Adventure" manga, it was Charon. In the games, it's Ghetsis. Even in a series with homicidial maniacs, a villain lacking in redeeming features who goes all out in being a torturer and master manipulator can be called a Complete Monster.