Thread:Red Chevalier/@comment-5133668-20190829031736/@comment-2059440-20190829144051

the problem is Pink Diamond was a villain, way back, yes she was the "nicest" Diamond but she still willingly conquered worlds and enforced a caste system etc.. she improved over time because she learned that being a tyrant wasn't what she truly desired but originally she was part of a tyrannical regime.

Grogar may or may not of been real but every moment that we have seen "Grogar" in FiM has been Discord in disguise, meaning every threat that Grogar has been to the series is null.. it was all a con.

FiM has made it pretty clear that most threats that have ever happened post-redemption arc of Discord have basically happened because he either allows it to happen or he finds it useful to do so.. I'm unsure if even the Bewitching Bell truly harmed him or if it was, again, another con to spur heroes into action.

Grogar as stands is like a fairy tale, if anything, maybe it can be put up as such but it'd be of the legend - since real Grogar seems to be fake and quite possibly even back then it was Discord in disguise.. since Discord was shown to be more malicious way back.. it is likely "Grogar" was Discord, back in the day.