Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-2059440-20160506190434/@comment-4959878-20160510142739

Queen Misery wrote: let us discuss what a villain should be and what we, as a wik, should do to improve our definition and thus aid users in creating articles fitting for our wiki.. there's always a fine line between a flawed anti-hero and a villain, especially in modern era.. the days of the cackling tophat villains is well and truly dead and with it the old saying of "every villain must be openly evil".

If it were not for Surprise Villaineses, how are they supposed to SURPRISE US?! Hiding their true colors from the heroes so they'll trust them! How are audiences supposed to be surprised?!

so we must sit down and discuss, what will make us accept an article and what will not? how far must a character go to be considered a villain in this morally complex new world of ours?