Thread:Balthus Dire/@comment-25120051-20140629163724/@comment-25120051-20140705150826

Sorry, but Tobi is the worst villian off all time! he deserves the "Incompetent Villains", and it's not like or hate, but it's fact, for the objectiveluy reasons:

1 - "he IS competent, so much of a threat that the entire world unified against him." - He is not competent villian, he unifed all heros against him. A good villian needs to seed the discord, in some times he allies with hero and betray him. Hiruko, from Naruto Shippuden Movie 3 has a better plan for a villian, he seeds the discord.

2 - "he successfully manipulated Nagato and Sasuke" - In the manipulation of Nagato, ok. But, if he manipulates Sasuke, it's proves nothing. Sasuke is the most manipulative character os the serie, and it's not only me said this. The foruns of Naruto said. So you manipulate a easy person, it's not necessary be good.

3 - "made Akatsuki into a world power" - ok.

4 - "led his war with efficient strategies" - Where is this war is efficient? This is the worst war i see, no ones die, only extras. For the main characters, only Neji. Sorry, but if it's a good war, more persons from good side have die. And the 'zombie-army' apears and disaper, and don't make anithing memorable, except Madara.

5 - "had the upper hand against four of the mightiest characters on his own" - And he kills then?

6 - "took control of the Ten-Tails" - Yes he took the control of a incomplete ten-tails, and he is easy defeated. Good villian.

7 - "and hijacked Madara's first hijacking" - ?????, it's argument not a pun.

2 - "He displays immense power and high intelligence" - He has a immense paower and don't use

ex - '(Yes they thought he was Madara, but they were more worried about the seven Tailed Demons he could unleash...)' - The best thing of tobi in past, but when he reveals Obito, phew...

Finnaly, That's a accomplishment of an Incompetent villian with luck, no questions.