Thread:AustinDR/@comment-1705775-20190815035812/@comment-1705775-20190815040948

it is still unfair to users to use them as "experiments", whether or not you agree with them - you could be honest with them and say exactly what I said.. maybe not as strong but just outright say to them "hey guys, we DON'T want proposals of this quality or genre, you MUST do this and that when voting etc".

I mean, all that experimenting on users does is make them feel like admins are laughing at them or basically lying - anyways, I'm one person and my views are my own.. do as you please, I am not stopping you (though I guess I did by mistake).

I am just saying that you can just outright tell the users stuff and if they don't like it, fine, welcome to being unpopular.. story of my admin career.. better than lying.

(and no I'm not passing moral judgement btw, like I of all people have room to judge on morals, I'm purely saying what is my beliefs - now let's get on with other stuff on wiki.. I'm going to deal with clean-up etc).