Thread:Jester of chaos/@comment-5872914-20160131044444/@comment-4708882-20160131070756

I will look in them at some point today to double check.

With the Suicide it can vary I guess as some see it like in Nero's when he refused help and let himself die instead of being saved as with some honor. It's listed as an example at least but I'd recommend you check with someone who is an expert or at least more familiar with Disgrace and Honor then me on the Suicide part because I'm not sure.