Thread:Love Robin/@comment-28278646-20160621173737/@comment-28278646-20160622205806

Hmm, all very good points. I admit Muldoon is also a somewhat biased character. Right before he goes on that internal monologue about velociraptors, it explicitly states that his experience in Africa has left him with a cynical view of animals. And it has been suggested by TV Tropes that the reason those 8 raptors were supposedly pleasure killers was because they'd been raised in isolation or something (kind of like Indominus). Would you say Indominus is a villain? I know Owen says this, but he bases his hypothesis on the fact that she slaughtered a herd of Apatosaurs and never stopped to eat any of them. "Rexie" in the movies is definitely just an animal guided by instinct. The Spinosaur may very well have imprinted upon them like you are suggesting, but what about that scene where it deliberately waits for them to see it before charging, even letting them hear that phone in its stomach ring and growl menacingly? Invented for the sake of the admittedly poor plot? Definitely, but bad writing or not, it's still there. I know this site seems to have a policy about bad writing (that's why Patrick Star got deleted, right?), but GZ won't have that. However, I want to ensure that the Spinosaur and other potential animal candidates committed villainy/antagonism out of malice rather than instinct. I need a confirmed differentiation.

I have never seen that movie, though I have read about it, and yes, that sounds like enough for Orca to qualify as a villain, but by that logic, recall the kitchen scene in the first JP film: as the kids run away, the Big One gets up, sees them, and the camera zooms in on her a bit while she snarls viciously. Maybe she's mad, maybe she's just bloodthirsty - it's guesswork, and that's not enough, usually. The raptors in the other JP movies are most certainly not villains: in The Lost World, they're just defending their nest; in Jurassic Park III, they're trying to rescue their eggs; in Jurassic World, they go back and forth.

So I'm still on the fence about giving the Big One a page on GZ. Same foes for the Spino. If the Indominus loses her page on this site, I'll probably put her on GZ.