Thread:SuperSaiyaMan/@comment-5933172-20141020015635/@comment-4708882-20141020121542

My last comment was basically to point out something "canoncial" doesn't matter. No Stephen King counts the movies or vroadway plays canoncial but it still prevents Margaret White from being listed as a CM. Orochimaru is already settled as a On and Off villain due to him helping save Tsunade and fighting against the major threat at the time and being an ally to the heros for atleast now.Unless the page says ex: Book or Manga only then it counts all versions and the reasons for Orochimaru are in the Manga. The filler thus can be used as evidence.

Kaguya is hard to say the least as of being a CM or not being a CM

Reasons why she could be : Enslaving the world(weak reason yes), Trying to kill her sons and do it again by draining everyone of chakra and making them White Zesu's, Making Black Zetsu to release her from her stone prison.

Reasons why Not:First eating the fruit to bring peace to a war filled world, Cried when seeing Sasuke and Narutos chakra's were from her family argueably from conflicted feeling of both hate and love, Black Zetsu while her will but could think for itself and did what it did out of love for its mother and she didn't destroy it once she was free unlike most truely evi villains would most likely do.

With Kaguya I'm personally conflicted on if she or isn't for reason's I've mentioned but more likely against due to the little she does when she is released.