User blog comment:Amnestyyy/Just some suggestions/@comment-1969141-20120330004155

I agree soooo much! I've been fighting windmills against category abuse since so long I am really glad to discuss about it. That's right we can take measure but it need a considerable collective effort. Effort I am more than willing to join! There are far too many pages, most about willain we don't know anything about and can hardly correct; far too many contributors logged and far too many edits each day for us to correct if we don't all work on it.

As for suggestions for the manual of style. I know that most of our articles are like this and I really feel like I am stating the obvious but we really need to see that EVERY article needs to be clearly divided in sections. The standard we all know and use being something like: small presentation / appearance (when worth mentioning) / nature, specy, how it functions, whatever / backround / abilities (and weaknesses) / role in the story from beginning to end. No need for pages and pages about each of course and no need for divided section with titles were only a few lines are needed, I am not teaching you anything.

Why am I mentioning something so basic? Believe it or not I've read many pages with all these sections mixed to the point of being very confuse; or worse, like (please forgive the disgusting apparent lack of modesty) Malefor before I took it over, looking like "[insert evil-sounding name] is the horrible wizard sooo bad and vile to poor [random hero name.]" 

I've had recently problems with the Egg Witch page. The name of its opponents and even the name of the story it came from were not even mentioned for crying out loud! I even thought it was written through GoogleTranslate!! Frankly, I was tempted to ban the author and trash all his/herpages but it would have been pure tyrany. (My worst fear as an admin.) Perhaps not putting deletion template on every page like this, but we really need to motivate writers to write with quality without disgusting the eager users.

As for the categories I think we all agree that the categories for the genre (horror, fantasy...) / the support (manga, movie, anime, cartoon, live action...) The type (archenemy, anti-hero, big bad, faceless...) / the personality (barbarian, sophisticated...) / he powers / the crimes / what happen to them in the end are mandatory. Now do you agree with me when I say that that categories like "comedy movie villains" are redundant and needless?

We also have lots of category for specific series (One Piece, Star Wars...) but I do think they must be limited only for series with at least 15 to 20 villains. And that ONE category for each series is enough. (I've deleted the likes of "Akatsuki Members", "Millenium Members" and "Decepticons" recenty for being redundant.)

I also regard the categories about nationality (Mexican Villains, Villains from France) / categories about the actor who play the villain / category about a physical aspect (Obese Villains, Albino) as needless, and all the more worthy of wariness as they return A LOT. Mentioning these fact is important, making a category for it not so much. Do you think the same?

Now there is the problem of valid categories that go out of control; or those ones that might sound valid but are too vague or just plain rubbish. (Uncontrolable Anger Villains I'm looking at you.) We can't get rid of those without reaching an agreement first. Let's not forget the problem of the LOADS of articles present in categories they don't belong. (Complete Monsters, Anti-Hero, and so many others are so thoroughly raped each day it looks like a snuff movie. No kidding.) Do we all agree that the biggest targets need to be constantly watched over?

I would also like to attract your attention towards a problem that has plagued me for months but which I faced alone out of shyness/stubborness until Misery called me out of this: DELETING A CATEGORY IS NOT ENOUGH. When a category is deleted, it still has a page unless every article it includes is edited to remove it. One by One. The same goes with categories created by accident when a category is added to an article but mispelled. We need to frequently check the category list and that when we find one of these "void" category, (category that was deleted but left alone or created by mispelling it) it must be removed for good by removing every entry it contain. Same goes whenever a category is deleted.

And for the love of whatever deity you believe in, DON'T MAKE MY MISTAKE BOYS AND GIRLS! WHEN CONFRONTED TO TOO BIG A TASK, ASK FOR HELP!!!!

As for the pictures, I think the question is: How can we define when it is needed or not?

Wow, that's quite a novel I wrote, anyway thanks for reading all this. Do not hesitate to discuss and add your grain of salt. All this is a list of suggestions, no order given, make of that what you will but please answer.