Board Thread:Questions and Answers/@comment-29414935-20171021105103/@comment-4708882-20171021111824

John Kramer has a fairly good tragic excuse for his crimes especially horror standards: being diagnosed with cancer with others not helping him survive, loosing his unborn child not long after being diagnosed, still loves his ex-wife (Jill) and he truly believes what he's doing is right.

John believes the people he chose are waisting their lives and making other miserable but gives them a chance to "redeem" themselves and appreciate life more. Every one of his traps where escapable while both Amanda and Hoffman made some that weren't. He's also genuine everytime he's polite or nice around people onscreen from what I recall. Personally I see him as one of the least evil/hatable villain of the series as he wanted to actually help other in a twisted way.

Negan at least in the comics lost his wife he was cheating on and seems to care for Carl to some degree. He's brutal especially to enemies but that's a given in a zombie apocalypse though I do feel he's crossed the MEH he's not PE from what I've seen due to being against rape. Plus from what I can tell the comic version isn't as bad as say the Governor (comics only).