Board Thread:Clean up Concerns/@comment-2175012-20171129183922/@comment-15895329-20171130012623

NerdWithAKeyboard wrote: JoxFox2109 wrote: AustinDR wrote: The thing, though again has to do with the heinous standard of the work. If murder is commonplace (like if a person murdered two people or three), compared to someone who had murdered over twenty people, but they have redeeming traits, the oen without redeeming traits is eclipsed because of the low bodycount. But what if you compare them to the villains from other works? An example: Vukmir from A Serbian Film lives in a world who is dark and cruel or whatever and is not listed as Pure Evil. Then there is Infinite from Sonic Forces who lives in a peaceful and friendly world and is listed as Pure Evil. But when you compare him with Vukmir, he seems much less evil and don't do much heinous standards than Vukmir. So it makes no sense that Infinite is Pure Evil and Vukmir not, because both are Pure Evil compare with the other Pure Evils from other works. Like the category says "The worst of all evil". And that's a description for Vukmir compared to the other villains. I said roughly the same exact thing about a year or so ago when arguing for Labby to be considered Pure Evil. I thought it should be based on the character, not the work. However, this is not how it works. We didn't come up with the Pure Evil trope, so we don't make the rules.

Maybe you didn't invent the trope, but neither did TV Tropes, they just gave a name for it, and you don't have to adhere to TV Tropes unflinchingly the way that you do, because it's nonsensical. We should judge villains purely based on how heinous they are and whether or not they have redeeming qualities, not having this idea that if a world is dark and has a lot of villains no one is considered Pure Evil. We have needlessly and arbitrarly overcomplicated it, and that's what I'm sticking with.

I mean really; this site doesn't consider Marvel Hitler (or ANY Hitler) Pure Evil. That alone makes me not take the standards for PE on this site even remotely seriously.