Board Thread:Clean up Concerns/@comment-29644557-20170724213830/@comment-3581997-20170726223318

It don't know about that Lyon's, at that point we are arguing that there is no such thing as a deceased villain in any story where an after-life exists. Applying the same logic would mean Agamemnon is undead because all souls go to the underworld and thus still exist. Mortal coil has been shuffled off, character has no ties to the physical world, continuing to exist in an after-life doesn't seem to fit the Undead template, it's just regular death as part of that universe.

In the case of Vader keep in mind he stops being a villain upon death and his subsequent "undeath" as a Force Ghost does not have him as a villain any longer. In that particular case, wouldn't the Posthumous Villain be overlapping with Saved Soul and thus be an Undead Former villain? Of course that is just going on Star War's lore, so it's not as if we could use that as a hard sample for all similar villains. He is still Posthumous because even being dead, and reformed his actions as a villain continue to affect the plot long after his death.