Thread:LucidPigeons/@comment-27729149-20150425083602/@comment-27729149-20150810210449

There's also Ramsay from game of thrones, he has complexity and he's a complete monster, also if your talking about hitter, he likes dogs and treated them well, so even he doesn't apply to complete monster, but anyway sympathy for villains can sometimes feel forced, especially when you show tragedy late in the series, so after he murdered all those innocents you want us to feel sorry for them after that? I can't say the same for Joffrey though, he just seems like a generic tyrant, and I really don't get why people keep calling him a complete monster. Sometimes even a villain with redeemable traits is uninteresting, so honestly just because a person is a complete monster or a pure of heart does not mean they aren't complex!