Thread:Overseer80/@comment-3581997-20140103052212

Ok look I ge the feeling we need to talk this out instead of leaving eidt notes for eachother. Now first of all the word ANti-VVillain is absued alot and as a result it has become my pet peeve that I try to prevent when ever I see it. So I just wanted you to know before  I go further I am not harping on this  just to piss you off or get a rise out of you.

Now as for Stane, the movie version. His fatherly persona is clearly an act, he tries to kill Tony from the start and he drops the persona to bitch and moan at his own people about how they should be making not wasting him money so he can get rid of Stark for good. This tells me the whole thing is an act he is not naturally like that. As for not wanting to kill Pepper he still tries and only shys away once he sees Couslon has arrived. He never talks about wanting to stop weappons in fact he organizes a hostile takeover when Stark gives the no more weapons order. He starts selling weapon under the table to terrorists anyway. He is not taking out Starkk beccause he sees him as part of the problem with the world or anything, he even mocks Stark about how it's selfish not to make weapons when you know how and that "gift" needs to be packaged and sold.

An Anti-Villain is an extremeist tying to make the world better, or a figure forced to do things they don't want, or just a break away from the traditional villain motives like money, world domination, venegence or insanity. The whole reason the film seemed to pay more attention to Strark's hero's arch instead of what the bad guys are up to is because Obadiah and the Black Suns grroup seemed to fall into the villain tropes so easily. Now Stane clearly is all about the money he holds no loyalty to his boss/son-figure, his own allies or any cause. Now please if I am wrong let me know why. I have to know why you see him as an Anti-Villian and can't stand to see the term misused. 