Thread:Wolfman123/@comment-27586321-20141020193215/@comment-1762629-20141020221042

It all depends on their ultimate level of atrocity; even taking Katz out of the picture, Mad Dog just falls short of the heinous standard. Though domestic abuse is terrible, Mad Dog doesn't reach quite the heinous level needed. Even if he is a Knight of Cerebus, the cartoon still plays it like a cartoon; he deals punishment by putting Kitty in a giant flower pot. Tell me that's not just a little cartoony.

He may have been able to count even with the heinous standard, in my opinion, if his actions reached the atrocity levels enough to simply leave no other choice but to judge them a Complete Monster even with the trope's strict criteria. A large part of it also happens to be motives, the pettier the better: Tarkin destroyed an entire planet to try and make a point to Leia, Tomoo viciously killed Lucy's puppy to try and elicit a response from her, and Eddy's Brother abused and bullied Eddy for years on end until the latter was drastically, drastically changed, all for his own amusement. I consider these character all Monsters because they're actions were all played to the level of beyond simple jerkassery, the former two a good example because they still managed to stand out in light of the greater threat and the last one because his heinous actions were still played in an intensely serious light even with the cartoony nature in effect. Point is, Mad Dog could stand out, but not only do his actions fall short of a standard, the cartoony nature draws him back while Katz and the three villains I mentioned had counterbalances to that.

Does that lighten things?