Board Thread:Clean up Concerns/@comment-1705775-20170927133742/@comment-4708882-20170928124238

@TheEternalServant: With Job that's a story that best can be boiled to a bet and even then Satan never goes or attempted beyond what God said he'd agree to let him do to tempt Job to forsake him, even in the New Testament Satan does less than the Pharaoh who ordered murdered all the male children, can't do anything that God doesn't allow him to do and Satan I don't recall knowing he'll be defeated he just corrupts in modern version due to hate and increase his subjects.

@Nerd: I read it on sites (I believe once here but not sure and I saw) and also how the Old Testament doesn't explicitly state him as the enemy of God with most the modern thoughts coming from the Paradise Lost not from the actual texts which never describe him as a fallen angel. The New Testament then has him the enemy due to tempting Jesus. Not even the Snake which caused the fall of man is actually revealed as Satan originally. Instead of punishing Satan or Lucifer God punished all the snakes which implies it was just another corruptor/tempter who tricked man causing the rest to happen.

Now anything else lets just add to another thread or even my wall.