User blog comment:DragonDude83/PE Removal: Joker (2019)/@comment-3070706-20191019082610

At best, this version of Joker should be either Villain by Proxy or a completely Tragic villain. The way he's been repeatedly abused by the people of Gotham City is what drove him to villainy, albeit a tragic one. So he's deffo not PE at all (except the Nolanverse counterpart).