Thread:Jester of chaos/@comment-31330278-20180211164358/@comment-31330278-20190714085546

Before the topics: My maternal grandfather died last friday. He was sick, sad and absent-minded for a long time, but it still caught my mother by surprise. Part of me hopes that maybe he'll rise from his grave and say "sike!". He's not suffering anymore, for all that's worth. What's really bugs me, aside from his death and my mother's deep grief and all, is that i should be upset, but i'm not. I saw his dead body put in the graveyard and felt no need to cry. He was a good man. Your own grandpa was a better person than him, but he was still a good person when you get deep into it. I wish i could be upset about it. I tried for the past 48 hours, but i'm still more emotionally flat about it than i would like to be.

Here are the topics:

1. He sounds like a grown-up version of Joffrey, or a less brutal version of Ramsay. I must say he's a unique case where stupidity only makes him more dangerous. Hitler was an idiot, but it never stopped him. It did, eventually, but you know what i meant. If his demigod qualities are indicating anything, would it make sense if Sergio will see him as a reflection of his own ego and goal in life?

2. Is the original myth similar to his Marvel version? If he is, then Marvel Odin must've been either a terrible father or a broken man. When you say Odin had a justiified paranoia, you mean he knew it will happen, or just self-fulfilled the prophecy instead of thinking things through? I dont dig the "can't fight fate/self fulfilling prophecy" mentality. I can only assume Odin believed in it because his battles cracked him slowly but surely and threw him into despair. As said, i like him better in his benevolent version, but you reignited my interest about his harsh version. Did you liked his "God Of War" version?

3. I mean to ask if Jester will die without hating Gilgamesh. But yeah. It makes sense that Gilgamesh will be more exausted than resenting. Did he knew Jester is tragic, or just being exausted after the fight? Now, i know Kar was meant to be an idiot, but you would expect him to learn things from his pregmatic son. Unless Kar's brain is like a car crash. I see your point about simplicity. it does entertaining with the right writing. Is Sir Thomas is considered simple?

4. I've just got to minute 50. Did Terra had a stockholm syndrome in the comics too? For some reason, i never thought Slade would exploit this poor girl for his own desires. Having a soldier who's willing to blush around him in her nightgown is more fitting to Joker. When Slade mentioned his contract and ranted about his grudge against the Al Ghul family after they chose Damien over him, i wasn't sure how much of his contract is money and how much is his own self-absorbed revenge. Beast Boy gave a strong sentence. "I think the pain is what makes the hero". Dumbledor would've appreciate it. I know Tera was raped after she was blamed at witchcraft and lost her parents, but Beast Boy did the right thing when he informed her about her comrades' hardships. One can only imagine what she could've become if it wasn't for Beast Boy.

5. It will come soon enough, but before that, i have some new insights about "Scream":

A. I've just found out about a very fascinating theory regarding to Kevin Duval and his motives to kill Kieran. It's like merging my theory that Kevin is the killer and one of my pen-mates' theory that Troy James wanted to frame Brandon due to both being in love with Maggie. I believe Kevin was a better person than what this theory say, but it's one of the most interesting things i came across in the past couple of months:

https://www.reddit.com/r/MTVScream/comments/58q4c5/kevin_duval_my_theory_behind_it_all_scream/

I still believe Kevin did it as an extention of his fatherly duty (Kieran almost killed Emma, and as her father, Kevin most likely wanted to get even with the man who tormented her), but i'm open-minded about it. Also, does the fact Kevin is a psychopath (he's 3K, and 3K is listed in the villains wiki as a psychopath) means Emma could become sadistic even without season 2?

B. Season 3 came out and i'm watching it a second time to decide about my opinion. So far, i begin to like Jamal Elliot. He have a good motive (wishing to avenge his dead half-brother against his other half-brother, who took the identity of the former), half of his body count are 2 people who deserved it (Hook Man who killed the original Deion and Tommy Jenkins who caused Deion to be murdered by Hook Man) and unique for a soldier. Other soldiers before him met their bosses on mundane circumstances (Stu was Billy's good friend for a long time, Mickey met Debbie on the internet, Charlie and Jill were in the same classroom for at least 4 years until the latter decided to use her charm, and Kieran met Piper not long before she came to Lakewood). Jay met Beth at her tatoo clinic. They bonded while she helped him with some tatoos. Eventually, she killed him like i knew she would. I might reconsider after second watch, but i see Jamal as less evil than Charlie. Jamal killed people who deserved it and had a good motive. Charlie was just a fudged-up sexually frustrated man who killed his best friend for a girl and took pride of it.

C. Beth surprised me. I knew her personality before knowing her name, but i mistook her for a victim and put my money on Liv Reynolds. But i saw Jamal from miles away. I need to see it again for determine if Jamal was loyal or not. Now Beth is weird. Before she came, "Scream" was a universe without racism. She ruined it :-(. Even Jill wasn't racist. The only reason Beth is no worse than Jill and Roman is that Beth never killed one of her own family. At least from what i recall. If someone will propose her as pure evil, i'll vote yet. Another thing i dont like her right now is her motive. She wanted to kill people both because she considered them hypocrites and for proving she's a better killer than slasher killers. She's low-tier compared to many slasher killers and obviously hypocrite herself. I hope my idea of Tatum as Blondeface is better than Beth as a character. Her best aspect it her actress. Giorgia Vhigham can work nicely as Red Queen. If she's short, she can be Cindi too.

D. I think i'v just realized why 5cream is taking so long. It's not just because Craven is dead. It's because people are mentally locked on a movie with all of the actors from earlier movies. As cool as Scream Noir is, it might be difficult to translate it to the big screen. One thing we can do, which is also done by someone named Cman 710 who rebooted Scre4m and created "5cream-Scre8m" followed, is rebooting the first movie, but with different actors and the lessions from the original. "Friends I Dont Have", where Tatum is Blondeface and her motives will be different than the source material, is a fun way to do it. We already discussed the outcome of parts 1 and 2 of such scenario. How do you see this scenario effecting Roman and Jill, assuming either of them would be exist?