Thread:Balthus Dire/@comment-4708882-20141015120145/@comment-1969141-20141015205744

Well it is highly subjective of course. One will see a villain as an irredeemable filth, while another would deem him as "normal". While Orochimaru could very well pass as a CM due to his selfishness, ruthlessness, absolute disregard for his followers' lives, scorn for his former closest friends and such; he does retains a bit of mercy and respect for his foes, that, while very, very scarce prevent him from sinking as low.

Let's say that the vote of majority disqualifies him, but this does remain a subject of debate.