Thread:Balthus Dire/@comment-27818776-20140712023810/@comment-1969141-20140715124022

I remade the category definition so that Virtuously Vile would be the step below Complete Monster. Twisted or not, honour is a quality and as such cannot belong to CM. On the other hand, looking cool and/or funny does NOT define a Complete Monster. Some villains' funny quirks prevent them form being labelled as such, others like the Joker's serve to highlight how horrible and twisted they are.

Basically, if the "honourable" deed is self-serving, fake or inconsistent, the villain can fit in Complete Monster: Emperor Palpatine acts friendly towards his apprentices, yet he only cares about how useful they are and discards them without remorse. Frollo only takes Quasimodo in out of fear for damnation, the Joker is as likely to spare his goons as to kill them for no reason when he feels like it.

If on the contrary, the honourable deed is genuine, even when motivated by interest, then the villain can fit in Virtuously Vile: Cell's respect for Goku is genuine for instance, despite the fact that he turns into a sore loser as soon as he is outmatched.