Thread:BeholderofStuff/@comment-11368810-20170211013933/@comment-25342388-20170211192541

Stolen5487 wrote: AustinDR wrote: I never said that he was tragic; stop trying to take what I'm saying out of context. All I'm saying is that if the film was trying to convey that he wasn't supposed to be taken sympathetically, they poorly handled it. Again, take Lotso. By the way it looks, Lotso should have a more valid Freudian excuse than Syndrome, but it doesn't disqualify him, because it is explicitly stated that it does not justify what he does. Woody even calls him out for his poor excuse by telling him that he abandoneded Daisy and not the other way around.

By all means, I am just unconvinced that Syndrome meets the absolute heinous standard. I would accept that you may consider him one, but I will not be having these complaints over something as trivial as whether or not he qualifies. This just goes to show how the category is being interpreted as a badge of honor when it clearly isn't. I am getting really annoyed by this mindset. Just because the movie doesn't explcitly states that the FE is weak doesn't mean it's not. Mr. Incredible doesn't pity Syndrome nether do any of the other characters.

Now him not meeting the Supervilain heinous standard is arguable but considering his body count (murdering dozens of supers) and the sheer scale of what his plan with the Omnidroid amounts to (he had the Omnidroid attack the city and planned to keep doing this for years on end until he got old which would probably result in the deaths of who knows how many innoncents all out of glory hounding and the spite of spitting on the graves of the real heroes he had killed). It could also be argued that he stands out for how personal his crimes are (blowing up Mr. Incredibles family airplane and taunting him about their apparent deaths).