Thread:LostGod2000/@comment-27586321-20141023194406/@comment-24290586-20141208093219

As someone who agrees that Ghetsis counts, I think Doc really made the best arguements: the supposed blatant Pet The Dog moment with the Shadow Triad is never made clear, and Ghetsis never shows any affection towards them. And despite the horrifying things Cyrus and Lysandre were willing to do, Ghetsis is even worse due to the fact that he's willing to crush people under heel and impose tyrannical rule over them as opposed to simply killing them quickly on top of his other crimes (Brainwashing and abusing his adopted son, using said son as his pawn to enslave humanity with plans to dispose of him once he isn't needed anymore, enslaving and torturing a Pokemon so he could use it as a weapon, attempting to murder/condemn a child to a terrible fate). What really seals the deal for me though is how Ghetsis really stacks up compared to his fellow villains.

Giovanni? He was your standard mob boss, and ultimately had a change of heart after beign defeated by Red. Archie and Maxie? They had Pokemon and humanity's best interests at heart respectively and didn't intend for the situation with Kyogre or Groudon respectively to get so out of hand.Cyrus? He wanted to fix what he viewed as a flawed world and had his mind warped by childhood neglect/abuse. Lysandre? He's pretty much the Ra's Al-Ghul of Pokemon, and not to mention genuinely insane to boot. Now Ghetsis? Unlike all of these other guys who either had good intentions or ultimately proved to have good qualities, he was only looking out for himself, and to this end, he sought total domination over humanity and used everyone around him as a pawn to further his ambitions, not to mention perfectly sane unlike Lysandre or Cyrus (At least until his defeat in Black 2/White 2).

Funnily enough, he's even the only villainous team leader whose Pokemon flat out HATE him as his Hydreigon in the sequels can use the move Frustration (a move that gets more powerful the more a Pokemon hates it's trainer) at full power. Archie, Maxie, and Cyrus all owned Crobats, which will only evolve from a Golbat if it absolutely loves it's trainer, not to mention the fact that since Lysandre, Maxie, and Archie are all capable of Mega Evolution, meaning that they also have to be close to their Gyarados, Camerupt, and Sharpedo respectively showing that most villains in the series at least care for their Pokemon. I know these are small details, but to me, they make Ghetsis so much worse as even his Pokemon are victims to his cruelty (Which as mentioned before, Kyurem is direct proof of), further sealing the deal that Ghetsis is a loathsome, self-centered, monstrous piece of work.