Thread:ScaryMovie53/@comment-34055410-20181021172249/@comment-31330278-20190622224536

BOT (before other topics) 1. I agree about Debbie and Pamela. But you'll have to talk with Beholder about it. If he'll agree, you remove Debbie from the psychopaths list with ease. I promise you i'm not part of the Cersei haters. I'm not part of fandoms overall. Now, Cersei is a psychopath because many of the things she've done are what many power hungry psychopaths would do. She killed countless people for keeping her throne (one of them was Margery), worked on schemes whenever she wasn't threatning people, and that's just her series version. In the novel, she was even worse. Her novel version was narcisistic. Her empathy is exclusive to her children. And even with the series version's care of her children in mind, she educated them to eventually become murderous samples. I can see your reasons, but you'll have to convince other GOT fans. Not all of them are open-minded as we do.

BOT2. Tywin has his tragic background. That's true. It's not easy to live with the fact of having a screwed-up family. But hating Tyrion because he was born is just childish. Even without mentioning he was the brain behind the red wedding, which only a psychopath can arrange, keep in mind he was considered was the most powerful man in Westerose for the whole first half of the series. People in Westerose doesn't become de-facto kings for being kind and benevolent. Even when he came to his family's aid against Stannis, he didn't do it as a father. He did it as a savior who get the real power of the kingdom. Like America in WW2.

BOT3. I know many GOT hardcore fans would skin me alive for saying it, but i dont think Joffrey is the most repulsive character. After a second watch, i came to see Karl Tanner as more repulsive. Also true to some other characters. At least Joffrey can claim his parents are siblings. Tanner, for example, was born without any significant mental problem. A warrior like him could do amazing things. He even became a ranger of the night watch. But after killing Craster, instead of being a benevolent leader, he chose to become at least as worse as the monster he killed. Growing up in Poverty and having a clubfoot is just an unexcusable freudian excuse to his pointless cruelty, from rape to abuse people under his roof. I despise people like him. Not sure whether The Mountain is worse than Joffrey or not, but Ramsey was definitely a good candidate for "worse than Joffrey" category. If i asked Jack Gleeson about it, do you see him being more like us, or more like the narrow-minded faction of GOT fandom?