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Inferno Pendragon wrote: Ultimate Black Widow is also a hard one to keep as Ultimate Marvel was disgustingly grimdark, that universe had Reed Richards become a genocidal maniac that sparked WWIII (I believe), Giant Man tortured Wasp with raid spray and had his ants swarm her in micro-scale, because he was complete psychopath..

in a world filled with disgusting takes on beloved heroes (not a fan, sorry) it is hard even for terrorists like her to stand out. Hank and Reed were repentant though. Black Widow was not. And, no villain in her MU with her level of resources was as bad or worse to my knowledge save Red Skull, but that just means they're both Pure Evil.