Thread:Jester of chaos/@comment-1672596-20161024172110/@comment-1672596-20161024183447

Jester of chaos wrote: Maybe they refers to an older definition than Marx himself as again many theorize he is merely taking an old concept and changing and claiming what he does is communism. I have even had former history teachers and at least one philsophy teacher who not only point what basically all the links I gave you as what true communism is but that Marx version differs. All said teachers also agreed on how it was rather likely that the concept predates Marx but we call him the father as one of the far more open leaders and who we consider founder of the modern age.

While it failed as a goverment we as a society tend to demonize our enemies more often then not to the point we have to take whats in our history books with a grain of salt realizing it was written by the winner who wishes to portray themselves as the "good guys" and are bias. Thats the reason most text books tend to differ at least slightly especially in different parts of the world. Last I checked, most people seem to view the Vietcong and the Vietnamese Communists with scorn even when they technically "won" the Vietnam War, not to mention, the French Revolutionaries won against the King of France, and yet they are demonized even to this day regarding the Reign of Terror despite their clearly being winners, so I don't buy the whole claim about winners writing the history. Otherwise, why are the Vietcong and the Jacobins treated in a bad light DESPITE winning (heck, the Founding Fathers were disgusted with the French Revolutionaries actions with the September Massacres, and they were neutral in that whole conflict by order of George Washington, and like I said, the French Revolutionaries obviously won)?

And in one of those links, the person specifically said that reading Marx, it's hard to see why anyone wouldn't want that system (clearly she missed the part where he wanted to reenact the Reign of Terror), so no, it's pretty clear communism is indeed all about slaughtering people ever since Marx and possibly Voltaire founded it. And anyways, the French Revolution predated Marx and was arguably the first instance of a communist society (in fact, it inspired Marx), and you don't need to tell me what that's like.

Also, I don't tend to demonize people I don't like, I deem them bad people for their moral problems, NOT whether I personally like said people or not. For example, I'm a Broly fan, yet I know full well that he's a villain. That's what I'm getting at. I treat morality as being like a math problem, and you know what math problems are? They're absolutes. In fact, more specifically, I see morality as like a computer equation and programming.