Thread:TakeruShiba/@comment-33014003-20180720195135/@comment-36180625-20180727184037

Valkerone wrote: He's been accepted as PE back then, and he's still accepted now. The ONLY reason it kept getting removed is due to sockpuppets getting rid of it without any given reasons (as have you, might I add).

With that said, I'll give you my thoughts, since I've actually seen the film. He has Tuco brutally tortured (clamps his fingers with a tobacco container, has Wallace viciously beat him around the room, who also chokes him and almost gouges his eyes out etc.) right after offering him food as a false sense of security and forces a bunch of prisoners of war to play music to cover up the torture (with another prisoner noting that other prisoners have had similar sessions, clearly indicating this isn't the first instance of torture), beats up a prostitute to get information about the location of buried gold, as well as being a sadistic murderer (covers a pillow over man's head and repeatedly shoots him in the face and simply laughs it off). All of his actions are motivated by only one thing: greed. Goes on contract killings just for the money, even when his target hires him to kill the one who gave him a contract in the first place and once he finds out about buried gold worth $200,000, he has people tortured, and the icing on the cake is that he doesn't care at all about what he does: He's purely driven by greed and stands out among him, Blondie and Tuco as being the worst. By these reasons, he should definitely qualify.

Lastly, your argument that he doesn't count because he was removed just before/during the CM category's renaming process still isn't valid, since it was removed by a sockpuppet and problem user who is no longer welcome on the Wiki. You also claim Angel Eyes has been "on and off" the category like a yo-yo because it was repeatedly removed by the same sockpuppet for no given reasons over and over again. In fact, you removed it yourself at first without any valid reasons, which means you're probably the same person since I see no one else removing the category in the first place except for sockpuppets of Lady Satsuki.

Even if you weren't though, you'd still have to make a proposal for the category's REMOVAL too, considering it was already up before the proposal rule was put into place. If the admins have said any villain on the Wiki who already have the PE category on different pages in the first place, then you should take what they have said for granted. In conclusion, he stays. Another thing I might add is I don't even see how he's even any more heinous than Tuco, look at some of the stuff the later's apparently guilty of.