Thread:AustinDR/@comment-6489422-20151119050024/@comment-6489422-20151123182818

I was suggesting that if TV Tropes ruled those characters out as CMs, it feels strange that Villains Wiki hasn't done the same seeing how they usually do that to villains that TV Tropes cut from the trope or didn't approve of to start with.

I personally believe Hopper's promise was based on honor among both family and grasshoppers. That he sticks to his promise is his single decent quality, but even that isn't sufficient enough when considering that he'd gladly kill his brother were he not bound by the promise and seemed about ready to finally break said promise later on when Molt was told to tell him that they ought to leave the ants alone.

I agree that Syndrome's excuse is very flimsy and his actions are deplorable, but he's given one mitigating quality in the "Jack Jack Attacks" short in that he doesn't just kill the babysitter even when he very well could - he chooses to lie about himself instead and send her on her way. Otherwise, he fits the bill. And yes, removing a entire group of people from existence counts as genocide.