Thread:Abe The Conservationist/@comment-4708882-20190106210929/@comment-4708882-20190409032116

The repeatedly starving and drowning is enough but unless basically stated they are only hurting animals for its own sake you can't presume it's not trying to help in some way. Real life places use animals for experimentation in general not simply to cure a disease 0plus people online have been known to exaggerate or mistake characters for what they aren't. Just trying to capture/fix something for a selfish reason doesn't mean really villain just antagonistic behavior generally plus NIMH only counts because they knowingly make the animals intelligent and then want to do experiments. This one counts for the two purposely starving and drowning but experimenting on animals alone unless ungodly horrific isn't automatically meaning villain.