Thread:LucidPigeons/@comment-366087-20160216071700

Haya again.

Did you know that Staff refuses to accept the results of POLLS for important wikia-changing decisions? Like for If and Who should adopt a wikia, and if an admin/bureaucrat should be removed.

Staff will reject the results of polls, asking instead for Voting Threads. Discussion threads—be they forums or blogs or even talk pages—where users vote-by-comment.

Why? Because polls can be fooled and manipulated. Much harder to do with Voting Threads. See, *any account* can vote in a poll. And the votes cannot be traced. If I had 20 socks quietly peppered throughout this wikia, I can tilt the results of a poll in my direction with a margin of 20. For example, the polls about CM and now KoC… who cast the votes which drive the numbers? They don't match up to the number of commenters.

Which is why Staff hardly ever uses Polls, and require anything they get pulled into to, to be linked to threads opened for discussion and votes-by-comment. See that way Staff can (and do!) *Checkuser* each and every account for socketry.

In addition, I'll add this: Just about any discussion I get involved in I'm bound to lose. Because I'm usually 1 voice among an entire wikia full of users who are *used to x*. I ALSO rely upon just my own words (and rules and or standards) to present my reasoning. I don't run to the walls of others, sometimes on other wikias, asking for people to throw their weight behind my causes. So the numbers are almost always against me.

Or against anyone who wants to push through changes. Open things up too much, and change will hardly ever happen. What's why the polls about CM and KoC were doomed to fail before they were even opened. 