User blog:KillRoy231/Top 10 villains that will never die (or stay dead)

This list is only counting ongoing series. Also not counting villains that reformed.

Warning: May contain spoilers!

10: Future Disney Villains
This is really the placeholder for 10 because I could only come up with 9.

Anyway, Disney has not killed a single main villain in an animated movie since King Candy in Wreck-It Ralph, preferring to take the darker path by killing family members of the hero. Hans, Yokai, and Bellwether get arrested, and Te Ka is revealed to be Te Fiti without her heart and is restored. Two doesn't make a pattern, but three does, and four is consistent.

Maybe Disney finds it cliche, or maybe they prefer sad deaths over satisfying ones, but don't expect them to break that pattern as Marvel did with their Phase 3 movies.

Given what's been happening recently, I'm sure they'll even find a way to revive King Candy in Wreck-It Ralph 2 (despite saying he'd probably stay dead). I'm fine with them not continuing their classic ending, but I'd REALLY prefer King Candy as the grand finale over Mother Gothel. He went out in a blaze of glory!

9: Supreme Leader Snoke, Star Wars
This one might seem absurd, because I don't have much basis on this. It's following a similar story to the original trilogy which ended in Emperor Palpatine's ultra-spectacular death. We're expecting the Resistance to defeat the First Order in Episode IX, so why should Snoke's fate be any different than his predecessor's?

Because, a major difference in A New Hope and The Force Awakens, is: Tarkin was aboard the Death Star when it blew at the end. General Hux is his counterpart, but he most likely survived, coz he was the one who was ordered to get Kylo Ren off the Starkiller before it blew, and we know he succeeded due to Ren's appearance in The Last Jedi, as we suspected because we knew the Darth Vader of the sequel trilogy wasn't going to die offscreen like that.

Furthermore, not a SINGLE villain, aside from some mooks, ever died in this movie. There were four villains. Snoke, who of course we expect to last to the ninth film. Kylo Ren, the same. Hux, who I already mentioned. And Captain Phasma, who was seemingly crushed inside the trash compactor but her return in The Last Jedi proves she escaped both it and the Starkiller.

So, the sequel trilogy REALLY doesn't seem to be going for villain deaths, so while Snoke will probably lose, he'll probably survive as well.

8: Lewis Dodgson, Jurassic Park
Dodgson! Dodgson! We don't got Dodgson here! He is pretty much the true antagonist of the first film. He was supposed to return as the villain of the second, but for no reason whatsoever they replaced him with an OC, Peter Ludlow. He was absent from the third film as well, and I was hoping he'd return on announcement of Jurassic World. Instead the human villain was Vic Hoskins, again a new character.

There's a new movie coming out, Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom, and I think it's a safe bet that Dodgson - though he'd be pretty old at this point - isn't going to appear, unlike Malcolm.

7: Cersei Lannister, Game of Thrones
This is a show where almost anyone can die. However, she's been around for a long time, outliving her son Joffrey and her father Tywin, both of whom overshadowed her as main villains of the series for the second, third, and, in Tywin's case, fourth season. And she took out the High Sparrow, who overshadowed her as a main antagonist of Seasons 5 and 6, before taking the Iron Throne. Now, most of the villains are either dead or reformed; Of those left, she is one of the two most prominent, other being the Night King.

The final season is months away. Right now the future is looking grim for Jon Snow, Daenerys, and Tyrion, for they have to face an army of White Walkers without Cersei as their ally. Not only are they vastly outnumbered, but the Night King has a dragon now, reanimating Viserion's corpse after killing him effortlessly, something Bron failed to do with a dragon-killing spear. Although Daenerys does still have two dragons, they don't stand a chance against the Night King.

We're predicting in the penultimate episode, like Battle of the Bastards, the heroes eventually triumph over the White Walkers and kill the Night King somehow. Perhaps Tyrion shoots him with an arrow made of dragonglass, or maybe Sam is somehow able to kill him with his Valerian Steel sword. And when he dies, so do all Wights and White Walkers, including Viserion.

But, it will not be without heavy casualties. So unless Daenerys has at least one dragon left over from the battle, they will be too weak to stand up to Cersei and the Iron Bank army Euron got to fight for her, making it likely that she will defeat our heroes and maintain the Iron Throne.

6: Negan, The Walking Dead
I must be honest, I haven't seen past Season 4, and I heard later seasons suck. But I have heard of this villain named Negan who is worse than the Governor, who alone lived longer in the show than he did in the comics. I have also heard from where he is Negan is impossible to kill. He survived Seasons 6 and 7, and the show is continuing into Season 8. I doubt Negan's status will change there.

5: Arthur Ketch, Supernatural
Yes, Ketch did die at the end of Season 12. Mary put a bullet in his head. But, the show seems to like him a lot, because not only did he get more screentime than any other villain of the show except Lucifer (who is the devil) and Crowley (who is on and off, is a popular fan-favorite, beame part of the main cast, and fully reformed in his final moments), but they revived him in Season 13 to make him Asmodeus's ally, revealing that years ago he captured Rowena and released her in exchange for the death-cheating spell.

They specify that, without Rowena to recharge the spell, Ketch has no more extra lives. Much like Sam and Dean (well, we're not so sure about that anymore, coz Billie seemed to change her mind). So he can permanently die now, but will he? The show seems to love him too much to want to kill him off. Besides, they haven't used him to satisfy their torture fetish for Sam and Dean yet. Asmodeus may not survive the season, but I think Ketch will.

4: Queen Chrysalis, My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic
Much like Ketch, I think they want to keep the show's first Knight of Cerebus around. She should have died when she fell over the edge of Canterlot, but she turned up alive in Season 6 and flew away swearing revenge.

She is set to return in the Season 8 premier, but I think she'll just fly away again. She's already appeared too often for them to do something more permanent with her, and she's proven she is pure evil and will not reform. It was probably symbolic that the way she goes flying into the distance in A Canterlot Wedding is like Team Rocket.

Yes, they killed the Storm King in the movie (unless they change it in the DVD release), but he's not Chrysalis, is he? They're never getting rid of her, even though fans want her dead now. (The opposite was true before which is why they brought her back)

3: Lucifer, Supernatural
Like Ketch and Chrysalis, the show wants to keep the devil around. He got imprisoned back in his cage at the end of Season 5, but in Season 11, he got out, and continued to appear in Seasons 12 and 13.

Archangels are one of the hardest things to kill, even the Colt won't work on them. But, since the alternate Michael took most of his grace for a ritual, Lucifer is powerless now and is probably mortal. So, he can die now.

However, as Mark Pellegrino is promoted to series regular, and everyone who has imprisoned Lucifer - Crowley, Alternate Michael, and, his current captor, Asmodeus, want to keep him alive - the show will probably keep him alive too.

2: Reverse Flash, Arrowverse
For a villain erased from existence, Eobard Thawne, a.k.a. Reverse Flash, just doesn't know when to die. When his ancestor Eddie shot himself, Eobard was erased, but his past self was turned into a time remnant to preserve the timeline. This does not count as revival, he still died at the same time as Eddie. Until he was pulled from his point in the timeline, allowing him to exist past Eddie's death. He goes on to be the villain of Season 2 of Legends of Tomorrow, until he is re-killed by Black Flash, in a really cool disintegration.

Despite being erased twice, the second time as a time remnant/aberration, he turned up alive again in the crossover of Season 6 of Arrow, Season 4 of The Flash, Season 3 of Legends, and Season 3 of Supergirl. He doesn't explain how he survived his death, just saying it gets confusing when he travels through time.

This suggests that, for some reason, Eobard simply cannot die and will reappear somewhere else whenever he is "killed". Besides, the show can't get enough of him, just like Ketch.

1: Giovanni, Pokemon
Since the beginning he's been the main villain of the series, the boss of Team Rocket, whom Jessie, James, and Meowth are trying to steal Pokemon for.

One thing about Pokemon is that it seems more aimed at younger kids than even the more tame animes like Digimon and Sailor Moon, or shows like Disney movies or My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic which at least intend a lot of appeal to the older viewers as well, with scenarios only we'd understand. As such deaths or even dark villains are rare.

However, Atsuhiro Tomioka must be some sort of incarnation of me, because not only does he like Misty and Charizard as much as I do based on a lot of the episodes he's consistently written, but he also wrote some unusually epic episodes that aren't expected of Pokemon, even in the movies. From the Diamond and Pearl finale featuring the awesome deaths of the recurring Knight of Cerebus, Hunter J, and the apocalyptic Team Galactic boss, Cyrus, to the five-part Lysandre episode ending with him meeting his doom in a green explosion.

He also wrote the Black and White episodes where Giovanni actually battles Ash and has the sinister plan of his own. Ending with Pikachu throwing a giant electricity ball at him with his tail. Giovanni survives, but becomes possessed, and nearly kills himself in an explosion, until the trio save him, and he leaves. "To think my actions almost caused my own end..." he says.

Of the epic episodes written by this awesome writer, Giovanni is the only major villain to survive. And Pokemon is over 950 episodes in counting, so he's unlikely to ever end up like J, Cyrus, and Lysandre.