Thread:LucidPigeons/@comment-6489422-20150725153720/@comment-27560932-20150725162209

Once more, I'll respectfully disagree, and leave at that so I don't drag this out longer than it has to go.

Interesting find, but things have changed; what the original author has intended seems closer to a more diabolical Hate Sink. A CM nowadays goes less by audience reaction to how utterly despicable they are- of course, that's still a fine way of telling apart characters from more basic villains, but cannot be judged solely by that- and moreso an audience reaction on how evil they are based on a scale, hence come the "Monster" part of it. The trope has been evolved and policed because as said in the article, nobody got the original point of the trope and regulations were required. It seems we're ultimately at two different stances as to how we ultimately define the trope; I'm much more based on the guidelines set to qualifying for this trope nowadays, whereas you're more the original definition. That's fine. Again, this trope is subjective.

That's good. I took nothing that personally and my apologies if any of my points got a little too snappy, but a good part of my hate for Ghetsis nowadays came from our debates which took a serious toll as to how I view the character and the CM trope as a whole.