Thread:Jester of chaos/@comment-5959298-20171215193957/@comment-4708882-20180319132709

1. An actor might feel he's bad enough but the story presented in the final product is all that matters. Many people confuse "antagonist" with being automatically the same as "villain" which isn't correct. The actor may despise their character but that's not enough for s page here. As pointed out now a couple times every page you've had about Turnbull as an antagonist in a catastrophic event with no clear good choice when one actually accounts for the dangers of everyone panicking at once.

2. Lubov could still count for the actions before the Titanic if they are given enough context as it describes him as a violent man that killed innocent people beforehand and merely showed he had some redeeming features and/or regret on the Titanic.