Thread:Jester of chaos/@comment-1672596-20140901155050

1. Yeah, and the Joker also attempted to avoid dying from his self-inflicted TITAN shot in Arkham City, even briefly panicking near the ending when the cure was destroyed before he had a chance to drink it. Guess what? He still had absolutely no fear or even care of whether he was subjected to eternal damnation, even taking it in stride. Another example is Eric Cartman not even considering the fact that he'd go to hell if he didn't repent while he was a ghost, simply caring more with actually being restored to a human body than you know being eternally damned. Frollo on the other hand actually feared eternal damnation, which is a control mechanism installed by God himself. If he were truly remorseless, like most other villains, he wouldn't even bat an eye at even the mere accusation that he'll go to hell.

2. The biggest qualifier of being a Complete Monster is that they aren't redeemed at all. He actually was redeemed in a musical based on the Disney film, with his character otherwise being exactly the same as the Disney film. When an official work actually redeems a character in a work, they are automatically exempt from CM status, no ifs ands or buts. Both TVTropes and even the category guidelines on this site made this very clear. Heck, it's the reason why Broly's no longer a CM on here. Also, a CM isn't supposed to be played sympathetically at all, and considering Frollo is given an entry in Cry For The Devil, of all things, he failed that category as well. 