Thread:Jester of chaos/@comment-28151492-20160421173950/@comment-4708882-20160421175634

Neither. Just because a character is or isn't considered by TV Tropes doesn't automatically mean we will. That said they have to meet all the sign's on the Complete Monster page. My simplified version of what the rules are:


 * They must cross the the Moral Event Horizon (generally more than one act that could be considered one with very rare exceptions).


 * Must be taken seriously (No Comedy or Comic-Relief ones as a result)


 * Must not feel remorse, be redeemed or have positve/redeeming features.


 * Not presented in a positive light.


 * Groups cannot count.


 * Must have a moral agency if they lack free will they can't count.

These are the rules I know by heart. Someone who also might also be of help since they are more experienced with the trope is LucidPigeons.