Thread:LucidPigeons/@comment-27818776-20150429114914/@comment-27560932-20150429213023

I figure it's the same deal with Ronan in Hopper's case; the redeeming quality in question is far too ambiguous to really be justified. With a character like Ghetsis, we know the redeeming quality only by word, but we can actually infer it's a redeeming quality due to the Shadow Triad's genuine loyalty because of it. Hopper and Ronan, on the other hand, look at this quality as more a limit or even some false excuse and it fails to be altruistic due to that.