Thread:Overseer80/@comment-3581997-20140103052212/@comment-15895329-20140212235503

Sigh. I guess I should have looked at this sooner but in fairness I thought the issue had been resolved. But same people never quit till they win.

Hence why I hate debating.

He IS genuinely Affably Evil. He tells the scientists working for him that he's appreciative of their efforts and they need to work harder. Trying to kill Tony does not keep him from being genuine Affably Evil either because Affably Evil villains ARE willing to kill the hero, especially if they get in the way of their goals as Tony did. Think: if an Affably Evil villain was NEVER evil, they wouldn't be much of a threat or villain now would they? So that argument doesn't hold up.

The point is that to everyone else who is not trying to stop them Affably Evil villains are a nice, amiable person with clear positive traits which Stane fits in the film (but not in the comic where he IS Faux-Affably Evil). Now after becoming Iron Monger he does become progressively more unstable, but this is more a Villainous Breakdown. Before that he fits Affably Evil.

And no, Stane IS an Anti-Villain.

"What we do keeps the world from falling into chaos"

"You think just because you make an invention it belongs to you? You know your father helped make the atomic bomb. Where would the world be if he was as selfish as you"

And as to the selling weapons to terrorists bit Stane betrayed those same terrorists he was selling weapons to (terrorists who you misnamed by the way). An argument could be made that he could have used this to redeem himself in a way but by then was too far gone.

And actually, an Anti-Villain does not necessarily have to be a well-intentioned villain. There are other kinds of Anti-Villains and the term really just pertains to villains with clear redeeming qualities in spite of being villains. That could entail Affably Evil.

But I also know that you'll never agree with me and frankly I have no interest whatsoever in debating so I'm honestly fine to leave the page the way it is.