Thread:Jester of chaos/@comment-31330278-20180211164358/@comment-31330278-20190121231228

1. Good point. Asserting complete control in his own empire is much more pregmatic than trying to take over the world and opening fronts everywhere. With that said, are you sure Hitler wasn't a power hungry lunatic? Maybe he was more motivated by hate and blaming everybody at his own misfortune, but i wouldn't call him a sane man. At least if rising to power just because he was surrounded by idiots and born at the right century is indication to anything. You're right about Hitler ruining more lives despite being less pregmatic and less heinous. I believe Stalin get less focus in WW2 context because he was technically on the Allies group'''. '''Killing one monster aided by another monster kind of thing. Like Koba when Caesar sent him to kill Steven Jacobs. I'm not comparing Lucifer to Stalin and Gabriel to Hitler, but in a way, many theological satires criticize the method of look the other way for working with the devil for one greater good or another. If we take "Constantine" to the holocause, what would you say Constantine himself symbolize?

2. Just got to minute 1:14:53. Gwen came just in time and she was awesome. Emma Stone would’ve liked it. Her sheer awesomeness makes you wonder how on earth could anyone ever thought of getting her killed for evolving Peter's character. She came from a version where Peter serve as the lion to the slaughter and she's the hero. Turns out she was already on plain site, spying on Miles by posing as his classmate. I saw it coming from miles away. I dont know if it's the movie trying to be obvious or me having common sense. I dont like Olivia as a villain, but i gotta give her credit for raising herself up with her exterior arms to look Kingpin in the eyes. Quite feministic on the director's side. Do you see Olivia as objectively mal-written villain, or just not as good as Alfred Molina version? After the part Spider-Gwen revealed her mother have a secret bunker in her house, things became weird. 3 other Spider-people made less sense than our initial heroes. The pig who became a spider, an obvious shout-out to "Spider Pig" who does whatever a spider-pig does, was too much. This whole scene felt like a class reunion. It's a good movie, but sometimes i feel it's pressing too hard on the meta jokes pedal. And why would Prowler be Miles' uncle? It doesnt come out as a twist. It's more like a forced plotline. The good people did the right thing with Kingpin's wish to bring his family back, but not with making Prowler as an evil uncle. Another good thing the good people did was giving Gwen an aura of Laurel "Agent L" Weaver from "Men In Black". With her as the last minute savior, Peter as the out of prime professional and Miles as the promising new guy, the good people nailed it. Great chemistry. From what you know about Men In Black, does the chemistry between Gwen, Miles and Peter means Kingpin reminds of Edgar the Bug? If not Edgar the bug, which MIB villain does Kingpin reminds you?

3. I also wonder how do you see Corvus in FMA2003. I recall Corvus was more cynical than Jester. He could play a redeemed sin IMO. Douglas (that was the Guldan wannabe who was dragged to hell, right?) can work as Cornelio's follower, or even the puppet-master who'll waste the said crooked priest. Will the Elrics be similar to Gilgamesh in the final episodes, or just stay close to what they are right now (i'm still in episode 4, so i dont know too much)? Before i begin to watch episode 4: Will it be as emotionally exhausting as episode 3, or more like episodes 1 and 2? Does fighting the sins and Father/Dante is considered "take revenge of the heavens", like Jester will do, or more like take revenge to hell? Jessica can work well as Wrath. It's the only wrath except Envy is see as a woman, so it makes perfect sense. Since it took Gilgamesh in full force mode to kill her, i do believe Jessica could kill Eduard. Famine can work well as Greed. Sir Thomas, as said before, can work as either Wrath or Pride. Which sins would Pestilence and Death be?

4. The PE criteria says that sadism isn't necessary for being pure evil. I see it possible only if the said villain is all about gaining power (like Drej Queen Susquehana from "Titan AE" and the queen from "Ico") and aren't concerned about sadistic pleasure. I know it will be a challenge, but i might do something similar with Sobek. His cruel hypocrisy makes him look down on sadists because many of them are psychopaths. Cruel crocodile with cruel irony. In his word: "Would you look at that, Hannah? This poor unfortunate soul kills people for his own enjoyment. What an idiot! He thinks killing is fun. Killing is not about fun. It's about politics. Sadists are just stupid psychopaths who put pleasure before business. I have no need of them. I won't tolerate psychopaths!". Hypocrisy aside, Sobek's possible lack of sadism can make him more dangerous than some other villains. Many other villains are screwed up by their own sadism, hence why some are torturing their enemy long enough for the said enemies to find the strenghts to retaliate, sometimes even pissing them off one time too many. Sobek won't have these problems. There's something scary about a fanatic yet pregmatic crocodile who just go for one's throat insead of wasting time at tormenting. Even if he'll be sadist like most pure evil villains, he'll be more pregmatic than many of his category, despite his madness. In the very slim chance Sobek won't be pure evil, which redeeming quality would you give him? And how much Hannah and Sobek reminds you of Marlene and David from "The Last of Us"?

5. The tragic villain with shades of Grima is White. I was wondering if White can be argued as a psychopath. Sorry for the misunderstanding. If you want to picture Panda mechanic-wise, think about I-Rex voiced by Vincent D'Onofrio. Not sure about White's actor. Which actor would you give to him? It's important to say that if "Chernobyl IL" will be animated, White might be dubbed by a girl as part of his relatively naive and child-like nature. Now, when we covered some of the villains, here are some of the heroes (the names might not be the same in all languages. Here are the english ones):

A. Jaden Brandogg - The protagonist. He was born to a tibetan mastiff mother (Stephany Brandogg) and unknown boxer father. Unlike some of the other anthropomorphic animals, he didnt became what he is due to radiation. He was born that way due to his mother being cruely experimented by the big bad. Because his mother was anthropomorphic for more than half a year (for dogs it's a long time) before the radiation, Jaden inherited the radiation and was born as a highly anthropomorphic dog. Used to live on the northen wall, the part of the story that have no radiation, ever since he was smuggled in the age of 6 months (for dogs, it's like a 8-12 years old child) for saving his life. I plan him to be badass in the spectrum of Owen Grady, Blue the raptor and Sidney Prescott. His current casting options will be Chris Pratt, Johnatan Young (a Youtube rocker with a dog-like voice) and Tom Hardy.

B. Grey Catswell - Jaden's girlfriend and his former caretaker. Used to be a kennel manager, until the radiation turned her into a cat. The other dogs didn't recognized her, mistaken her as "the cat who murdered Grey". She escaped to Panda's teritory, posing as "Manchester the transgender". Think about a woman who dress like a man who dress like a woman. Her script description will be "tough kitty with a heard of gold". She'll be a badass mentor/girlfriend to a badass student/boyfriend. Her dissapearance is the reason Jaden traveled to the southern wall to begin with. Their relationship of mutual saving began before the story began, when she smuggled Jaden to the northern wall so he won't be murdered by the big bad, who already killed Jaden's mother. Jaden isn't only her lover/former child figure. He's also one of the few real companions left, because all of her human friends ditched her ever since she became a cat. The sentence "all her friends they've been trialed for treason", from "To The Moon And Back" by Savage Garden, describes it painfully accurate. Her current casting options will be Neve Campbell (i know Neve is more suited to play a friendly german sheperd, but still) and some short mature women. If it will be animated, i might also consider katherine waterston (Janet Daniels from "Alien: Covenant") for her role.

C. Josef Cottontail - An american industrialist turned into a rabbit. He'll initially have mutual doubts with Jaden and his friends, but will become a close friend and similar to what Gibbs was for Will Turner in "Pirates of the Caribeans". His status as Grey's male bestie (and only friend for that matter. Most of the other are positive acquaintances) makes him knowing things that Grey want to keep from Jaden as long as possible. Imagine you have a girlfriend who have a special platonic relationship with someone who knows her better than you do. In the last third of the story, Josef will become a supplement brain power for Jaden and his boss/proclaimed father figure Blitz. Just so you'll get a perspective of how tough Josef is: The main (if not only) thing that limit his badasshood is the fact he's a rabbit. His main casting option is a good friend of mine. If not that friend, Seth Green will be a good option. 3rd options are Jim Parsons and (maybe) tobey maguire.

D. Blitz - A harsh doberman who became the kennel manager after Grey's transformation. He'll be one of those characters who have articles both on villains wiki and heroes wiki, because he's an extremist from the gray zone type. You can interpetate him as either a high-functioning psychopath (not all psychopaths are evil. Just the vast majority) or as an heroic socipath. He see the late Stephany Brandogg as his ultimate love, and therefore consider himself as Jaden's father figure/harsh boss. He's partly based on a strict boss i had in one of my former works. Now, he'll be redeemed in the last third of the story. Ever had an enemy who had a grudge against you, but eventually you closed this grudge for good in sake of a higher cause? So that's Jaden and Blitz dynamics. His current casting options are Timothy Olyphant, Richard Armitage (also a candidate to play Rodrick Santino and Jack Benes), as well as some tall and slim actors with a menacing presence.