Thread:Valkerone/@comment-1682045-20180914032007/@comment-14660436-20180914064616

I didn't even mean to recreate it, necessarily, but I'll say this: Firstly, that article wasn't even a one-line article. It was a stub at best, considering the fact that it was over the five sentence minimum requirement and the only reason why I managed to recreate it was due to the fact you quickly deleted it right before (even though one-line articles need a whole month's time for expansion) I was about to revert the one-liner template, since like I said, it didn't belong there due to the article being over the bare minimum. Queen Misery has outright told you in the past that the one-line article template shouldn't be used to speedy delete articles at all. And that's when the whole "insufficient growth" controversy started, which brings me to my next point.

I'm far from the only user who is unhappy about the abuse surrounding the one-line article template. I don't know if you're aware of any of this, but to put in a very simple but blunt way, other users and admins alike are getting tired of it, and some of it isn't just about the one-line article template either:

https://villains.wikia.com/d/p/3179493162221866961

https://villains.wikia.com/d/p/3179493162221867097

https://villains.wikia.com/d/p/3179493162221867004

Grizzhly, MIB, Red, Nerd, Dual Proxima, Shockwave and several other users have all openly complained about you and the whole controversy surrounding the misuse of the one-liner template, and the only reasons they didn't actually bring this to your message wall is due to the fact that they assumed that you wouldn't listen to them among other things. Even a couple of admins and bureaucrats gave their thoughts on the matter too and acknowledged that there is deliberate template abuse. Magma, Jester and Beholder gave their thoughts in each of the discussions above (Beholder's comment in the first discussion seemed to be about your behavior, more so), Misery acknowledged several user complaints regarding your behavior on Discord. But in relation to one-line articles and other things, what Inferno said in the discussions is really important though. Please read his comments below. They can be found under the second discussion link I listed above:

I'm sorely tempted to make a new rule: misuse of tags such as "Deletion" or "One-Line Articles" results in warning for 1st offensive, a short block for 2nd and continually long blocks after that.. the warning thing applying to admins as well as regular users.

I mean, there's either miscommunication or blatant abuse of tags going on and there's no official channel of what to do on it. And he's not wrong. Not only was there some miscommunication regarding the "insufficient growth" thing, but there is also a lot of of template abuse going on. The one-liner rules clearly state that any page with less than five sentences (not counting stuff like images, quotes and Trivia) marked as such must be expanded within a month' and are only set to be deleted if they aren't expanded within that time (and because of all of this, "TOO LATE" isn't that valid of a reason to delete an article if the template had only been up for a few days or even a couple of hours). So why is it that short pages that are under the bare minimum requirements are still getting speedy-deleted without giving any other users the chance to expand them? It really is getting out of hand, and again, I'm not the only one who thinks this.

use of "????????????????" should not be a thing, there's a handy little word invented a few centuries ago called "Unknown" for things that are missing in the case of crime sections or actor(s) whom portray a character. obsession over infobox stuff really starts to strike me now as an excuse to delete things quickly and thus evade any of the time-limits we set up specifically to stop the rise of "machine gun justice" (where you just delete everything on sight on a whim, giving no chance for users to improve articles and forcing them to ask admins for aid in recovering pages they were likely working on anyway.. thus making decent users grow discomforted, making troublesome users even more uppity and delighting malicious users as they can manipulate / vex that style of admining far better than the "wait and see if it improves" style most adminships take) Yeah, why are pages being labelled as stubs and tons of question marks thrown into them just because the newest addition to the infoboxes, the "Crimes" section, isn't filled out in each of them, even though some of those articles are actually full? Why do pages with "He was portrayed by X" or "Images and videos of Y from Z" sections missing need to be tagged as either "Stubs" or "Rewrites" when problems like those can be fixed with a Google search or by simply looking at the name of a character and what they are from? And yeah, he is right about the fact that deleting articles for extremely minor reasons is just going to encourage problem users (Grobda and his alts tried pulling stunts like this at several points in the past) to try and cheat other admins into deleting articles that truly didn't deserve to be deleted. And as for his point about regular users getting annoyed about having to ask admins to restore their articles because they were deleted for minor things, he further elaborates on this point in his next comment. The post speaks for itself, really:

if anything I'd like to remind everyone, admins and users alike, that Deletion is a bigger deal than you think - we run by a system where if a page is deleted it can NOT be restored without admins approving it. imagine how you'd feel if there was a page you made that was perfectly fine but someone tagged it for deletion and an admin just deleted it without checking properly, thus all the work you made on said page was erased and the only way you could get it back was to ask admins to restore it? you'd be pretty annoyed.. that's why admins NEED to check before they delete and users NEED to realize slapping on tags has consequences.. they aren't tools to remove things you dislike or whatever (if you want to do that use talkpages or something and give a reason).

I've seen a few deletion tags lately that are questionable to say the least, read an article fully before you try stuff like "this character is not evil" etc.. and admins (I know most of you already do this but I'm going to repeat it anyway) please do the same and read an article fully before deleting it.

I don't believe this is being done at all, judging by how these tags seem to be getting added or how pages that were perfectly fine existing on wiki for months have suddenly gone bye bye in seconds.

With all of that said, please don't take any of this the wrong way. This isn't me trying to "negotiate" or even tell you what to do, I'm just providing some food for thought.

Thank you.