Thread:LucidPigeons/@comment-24469175-20160228194417/@comment-26205772-20160305010812

The Punisher is really just straight crapsack, I don't really know much about Devil May Cry, the danger and misery is nowhere near consistent or horrendous enough to qualify as anything close to crapsack in Darkwing Duck, and MGS takes place in a world that's a lot closer to our own. Granted, that world is miserable, but it's still balanced out by a lot of good people and good messages. GTA is another world that's a lot closer to our own and I imagine that that's a hell of a lot more cynical than something like MGS, but I think the real reason it stays off is because while the tone and characters perfectly fit those found in a crapsack world, the nature of the setting (i.e. mundane if not crime-wracked, and many real-life cities can attest to being the same thing without being crapsack) is not.