Thread:Overseer80/@comment-1672596-20131208215055/@comment-15895329-20131209013405

No, it is not. We can go around in circles about this all day, but the fact is, it's not. I've talked to other people about this and they do not share your definition. And your using your religious background to give credence to your stance actually hurts it rather than helps it because of how it's given you a very specific world-view that the rest of us don't necessarily share.

Also, your insistence on bringing up Kefka Palazzo again and again is yet one more tiresome habit of yours, as your equally annoying insistence that if Frollo "was" a Complete Monster he'd be a nihilistic mustache twirling chariacture who'd just kill everyone in sight. But that's not how it works. And what YOU would do in his situation also proves...nothing. Since, after all you're a different person with a much different moral compass and world-view. So your arguments don't actually work due to being nonsensical, irreleveant, or just tiresomely insisting the same thing over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over when NOBODY ELSE shares your definition. I don't, the people I've talked to don't, TV Tropes don't, and this very Wiki doesn't. So again, we have to use our definition, not YOUR OWN ARBITRARY ONE.

And actually, Frollo does perform a "screw you" move to the Archdeacon later. Only reason he didn't do it earlier was because he was AFRAID OF PUNISHMENT. Which is NOT the same thing as remorse and you can insist that it is until the sun burns out. It doesn't change a thing.

I must say this has to be the single most pointless and nonsensical debate I've ever been in on this wiki thus far. You're not gonna convince me you're right man, so why bother continuing? You're just wasting your computer's juice and also your time. And frankly, so am I. So I won't be indulging you with another response, especially since there's no convincing you either. Let's just agree to disagree and move on with our lives.