Thread:Balthus Dire/@comment-25120051-20140629163724/@comment-1969141-20140705183746

That's yours reasons to hate him, so be it. But not all villains must follow these guidelines. Besides:

1) Five countries who had extremely conflictual relationship since very long do not agree to ally againsty a pushover. Some villains need to sow discord, you are right, but some like Sauron in Lord of the Rings or Father in FullMetal Alchemist end up having everyone uniting to take him down.

This being said, he did seed discord, he is all but said to have a hand in the Uchiha couo and the ensuig massacre, and the nightmarish rule of the fourth Mizukage. That's true it is disappointng that these aspect of the story were not developped as they did deserve.

2) You're right, Sasuke is HIGHLY easy to manipulate, but he also manipulated Kisame's idealism to gain his obedience.

3) Indeed, there is no denying that his war lacked casualties. But it is said that HALF the coalition died the first day. Plus, his strategy was still laudable:

- He sends his armies below the enemies line to take them by surprise. If his army wins, he wins, if the Coalition resists, he has a plan.

- He sends Black Zetsu capture the Lords. If it succeeds, he wins, if not he weakens the enemy by keeping powerful units away from the battlefield.

- When the Gold and Silver Brothers are trapped, he takes profit of this to gain Kurama's chakra, making Naruto's capture not a necessity,showing he knows to use opportunities.

- Since the Coalition resisted as he expected, he sends the shape-shifted White Zetsus decimate the Coalition from the inside, starting with the most important, the medics. And since he knows that Naruto is the only one to unmask his White Zetsus, this forces him out of hiding as he expected.

- He also used his Six Paths of Pain with efficient strategy and had multiple occasions to capture Naruto that Naruto escaped at the last minute, mostly through quick thinking and outside help.

5) No he does not kill them. Primary protagonist rarely die n such stories, but a fighter's value is determined by how well he fights, not only by his body count.

6) He had perfect control of the second form of the beast until severed from it. His defeat against Kakashi was disappointing I grant you that, but it was revealed that he wanted to be struck on the heart to be able to absorb the Ten Tails.

7) When Madara used the spikes in his vegetal half to have him perform the Resurection Spell, he feigns to cast it but cast the absorbing spell to become a god.

Sorry but objecively, he is NOT incompetent by a large margin. End of the debate.

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