Thread:Chris-Wreckless/@comment-7152905-20140910033455/@comment-7152905-20140910193709

for the love of -

Joker has ALWAYS done that crap, he stops short of killing Batman because he likes Batman in a twisted way.. Joker "cares" for Batman.. that's why a character showing "affection / concern" for another does not always mean they aren't a CM - proving the "care" is shown to be so fickle that it barely counts.

Yates did "care" for Faye, yet he was as fickle as Joker in the sense he'd still abuse her and to be frank even if he had "care" for her it does not exclude the trillions of monstrous trats he has.

No villain outside generic cartoon madmen have zero "care", a CM often has "care" but it just does NOT justify ANYTHING they do.. nor do they show much remorse over these actions.

Yates wanted to "save" Faye, he was willing to stop the film but that is NOT remorse nor is it remotely a redeeming factor - like I said, Joker HAS done similar with Batman : just because a monstrous psycho ocassionally spares someone or has momentary "care" doesn't stop them being monstrous psychos.

A CM is judged by their overall character, not just a one-off act of "kindness" - if we excluded CMs who had one moment of vague "kindness" we'd have NO CMs save for very generic Doomsday Monsters.