Thread:SuperSaiyaMan/@comment-5933172-20141020015635/@comment-142748-20141020215456

Not just TVtropes, but most Naruto fans do not use the method you use. Orochimaru is still a Complete Monster by the vast majority of the fanbase since he hasn't even redeemed himself. His saving of Tsunade and fighting Madara were for his own benefit, not Tsunade's or the world's. What is so hard to understand there? Villains can fight for their own goals, why do you assume he's fighting for the world or saving Tsunade for altruism?

And using 'all versions' is a fallacy since they can be presented in many different ways. If we have one source, one primary source, it should be considered the only valid one. Other sources aren't. The people who made THAT rule just want to be lazy or cut down on articles.

No, Hagoromo never said she was a 'good person'. He said she got conceited with her power. We don't assume how she was before she became now since Kishimoto never put effort there.

Black Zetsu is just Kaguya's will. He became PART of her body.