Thread:LucidPigeons/@comment-5754292-20150401145436/@comment-1672596-20150401215305

Dreadnine wrote: Sorry, but we're not cutting a category, a very well-established one with clear cut rules and ideals, at that, just because you're against putting YMMV-based categories on here. The Wiki is against it, actually. Or do I have to point out that Metal Gear Wiki, Wookieepedia, and other wiki sites actually have to remove anything deemed to be opinion, speculation, or anything like that? Just ask Bluerock on Metal Gear Wiki if you don't ask me. He's had to actually remove several of those things. If it's not allowed on pretty much any wiki, I see absolutely no reason why we should utilize a category that is explicitly stated to be YMMV (which by definition is relegated to opinion, as stated on TVTropes.) on here, since that's in violation of the wiki. Now, if the CM trope WASN'T a YMMV trope, then I wouldn't be too bothered by it. And when something is predicated on opinions, by definition, it LACKS clear cut rules and ideals since it literally amounts to each person having a different opinion on something. Besides, I don't see how something that has "clear cut rules and ideals" can consider Volgin part of the category yet not consider The Boss that despite the latter doing exactly the same thing as Volgin late in the game and having some slight amusement at it (like saying "life's end, isn't it beautiful?" after... oh, I don't know, blowing up Groznyj Grad and Graniny Gorki with a Davy Crockett, something that when Volgin did it with the Sokolov Design Bureau much earlier was rightfully treated as a very heinous, evil act that nearly led to World War III, and just brushing it off in the case of The Boss?). If it truly was clear cut, The Boss would be labeled a Complete Monster for that reason, just like with Volgin.