Thread:Jester of chaos/@comment-5959298-20180907201839/@comment-4708882-20180907214031

If we go by past Lubov he'd count but not Turnbull since we don't get a criminal past just him being an asshole in present.

It's antagonistic not outright villainous unless you commit a Hate crime such as murder, rape or enslavement which Holder never dies all he does is say a racist term and show that he seems to a a rough cop not enough.

Many people confuse antagonist and villain or mistakenly assume being an asshole makes you evil which isn't the definition. Morality might be slightly objective but there are clear meaning to a villain/hero which both sites focus on.