Thread:Jester of chaos/@comment-31330278-20180211164358/@comment-31330278-20190813231716

I meant to a thread strictly for PE proposal. As far as I can see "Part 4" thread will come one day :-).

without further ado, here are the topics:

1. I'm still a little confused about Ruby's family tree. Taiyang Xiao Long is Yang and Ruby's mutual father, but Yang and Ruby are only half sisters, because Yang's birthmother is missing in action, right? One of only things I know for sure is that Ruby is lucky to have a sister like yang. I wish I had this kind of sibling. Now, do you think Yang's birthmother is dead, or was she abducted and brainwashed? And did she had powers like Summer had?

2. You just gave me ideas for the casting of such production. James Woods/Jeff Goldblum as Hades, Hayley Orrantia as Persephone, A younger version of Richard Attenborough as Zeus, Neve Campbell/Julia Roberts as Demeter, Lucy Hale as Athena, Chris Hemsworth as Ares/Hercules, Aphrodite as Jennifer Aniston, any of the actors who played Three Finger as Hephaestus, Mark Hamill/George Seagal as Charon and maybe Jim Cummings as Chronos. I hear you about the respect. One must respect a death god played by James Woods/Jeff Goldblum. If you wrote him as a protagonist of your own story, would you write him as an intellectual warrior in a world obsessed with football, or more like a tamer version of Jester/a truly sympathetic killer geek?

3. Sugarcoating do diabetes, so thanks a millions for refrain from doing so. Does Anastasia's reality warping must give her the ability to smack the bad gods, or does they made a cartel against her? If it's the latter, then you also had here a satire about underworld's ties on the higher windows, and it's rather smart whether intentional or not. I know Sir Thomas isn't based on Hitler, if only because Hitler had a certain cunningness despite being an idiot, but being pure evil and climbing the ranks mainly for being born in the right century is something they share in common. Does it also applies to Karr, or having Sergio and Aaron as his soldiers makes much more sophisticated than Thomas?

4. If you wish to read it yourself, you have the link right here:

https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Liberator

Issue one starts realistically enough. I liked the front cover slogan. "Real heroes doesn't wear capes... They wear ski masks". Both a fact of life and a middle finger to Superman and practically any non-Batman caped hero. The first on-screen heroic thing our homeboy Damon did was releasing some abused dogs and deliver karma to some animal abusers (On a personal note: All animal abusers deserves at the very least electric chair, but for me, the worse kind of these people are those who torturing dogs into ruthless killers). I'm not saying our Damon's colleague, a nasty blonde guy named Randy, is abusing dog. Just a jackass, but from the kind that if you'll spill on him a glass of water, nobody will press charges against you. If he knew our hero is releasing dogs every night before coming to work at the coffee shop, I believe Randy would think one hundred and twice before drooling over their female boss and mocking his gradually pissed-off colleague's manhood. I've stopped relatively at the beginning, when Jeanette came. If I know anything about comic books and protesters, I can safely speculate that Jeanette is Damon's accomplice, which makes their morning talk about the burned dog's hell even more sophisticated. "I don't know first thing about what I know everything about". Know what I mean? And does the fact these two are doing the right thing despite it isn't legit as far the law concern means that they're in risk for corruption? It's already happen before (I assume that's what happened to Frank Tenpenny and to Nick Van Owen from JP2), so I consider it possible.

5A. Since Ichabod can be a hero in some versions (like Johnny Depp's "Sleepy Hollow"), I see the Miller as more worthy to be killed. Your idea for Red spinning him, cutting his hands and locking him in a deserted warehouse for framing Cheshire is great. Another idea you just gave me is to arrange Rumple killing him either for framing McDonald or to clear him out of the way before killing the snakehead. If I put Rumple and Mila's baby in PL, do you see him playing an important role in later parts? Now, your idea for Red being the actual brain is similar to a theory of a pen-mate about Audrey Jensen, in the way that the pre-retcon Audrey was Piper's accomplice and the actual brain despite being technically the soldier. Before Audrey shot Piper, like a far less violent version of Red shooting Jack, Audrey changed her mind and wanted to become a better person. Does the fact Red have traits of Audrey means that she might change her mind during her career, or more likely she'll be redeemed in jail, assuming she won't be just remorseful?

5B. Like with Voldemort (Zhan Tiri) and Umbridge (Gothel). Hope the king will stay the benevolent ruler we know, because seeing him become a tyrant is both sad, frightening and pointless. One thing i'm not sure about is why Gothel isn't listed as pure evil. She a Frollo, except she's a bigger hate sink, because at least Frollo can claim he's symbolic. Gothel is just repulsive and petty. I know Frollo is worse because he's racist and much more dangerous, but Gothel is a bad combination of horrible villain (Frollo is a great villain regardless of being a horrible piece of work), abusing mother from Margaret White and Sofia Lamb's kind and not even having the entertaining/symbolic edge (as disturbing as it is, many pure evils have a certain entertaining/symbolic value. Katz, Frieza, Voldemort, Scar, Frank Fontaine, Joker, some versions of Jonathan Crane, arguably Dodgson, Adam Taurus and so on).

5C. Sweet Tooth isn't my first pick when I choose an inspiration for my villains, but picturing Afton is similar to Gothface make sense, especially since both are colossal hate sinks. A hero who drive a wedge between villains is new. Never thought about that. Is there a canon movie/novel/series/game who use you unique angle of conflict? I've heard about something similar with Alex and Hydell from "Lockdown". Not sure.

5D. The killer sounds interesting enough and I really should see it soon. Was the killer more like Harlemface, or more like Dane? If he's like Dane, he could've kill Chris for the same reason a certain geek might kill a certain blonde. If he's like Harlemfice, he could've kill Chris for the same reason Harlemface killed most of his victims. Another villain I can see the Orphan Killer slaughters is Scar. The hyenas did it better, but I still like to see him being killed by the Orphan Killer. To a far lesser extent, i'm confused about all those people who seriously think Scar is the good guy. It's been 2 world wars, too many mass murderers and 25 years since the original movie, but people still come up with WTF theories about him. Here's one video regarding it. You need to see it to believe it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92cYgdlZk5w Scar isn't remotely the killer geek some people think he is. As weird as it sounds, the state of mind behind the "Scar is good" people is at least as scary as a vengeful serial killer.

5E. By "bad acting in an entertaining way", you mean something similar to "Grizzly Park"? I liked this movie and all, but if any of the characters went through character development (the ranger's decision to send the bear to kill Bebe doesn't count) like Kristen might've went through in real life, this movie would've been more than just light-headed entertainment for days you want to laugh. Light-headed entertainment have its moments, but still. If you had solid evidences that Kristen became a better person and a better actress, would you consider casting her as one of your characters? If you'll right a story about a carpenter, you can cast Kristen as a plank lol.