Thread:Jester of chaos/@comment-1672596-20161008195800/@comment-1672596-20161008235432

Jester of chaos wrote: I was pointing out you seem to expect most CM's to act similar regardless of the goals or differences. They can differ quite a bit and the films nor expanded universe try to paint him as a delusional. They paint his as a egomaniac with a lust for ultimate power who doesn't give a damn about anyone. As EvilLamp stated just being a "Savior" itself isn't always a good thing especially since Palpatine seems to mean it in a way that means he will revive the Sith order who are nearly Outright Villains who make it clear they just want power with him in complete control. At best he doesn't believe in Good or Evil just power itself similar to how Voldemort himself states. Palpatine is shown go enjoy the suffering of other as shown in Clone Wars were he goes on to torcher Darth Maul after killing his brother instead of merely killing him. Not every CM or villain who isn't going to scream "I am Evil" though he go onto doing a near equviavlent with his "Dark Side Incarnate". Evil Power can be used for good and while all the Force could be argued as neutral most in setting claim its evil and he is presumably aware of it. Again at best he doesn't believe in morality at worst he damn near calls himself it. Either way the stories just portray him as a man who is after power not someone who wants power to help others. The category is for those who do what they think will help others even if like Albert its nearly pure delusions. Palpatine is not that. Fine, though I still say Karl Marx (not to mention Jean-Paul Sartre, Michel Foucault, Voltaire, Jean-Jacques Rousseau, Denis Diderot, the Marquis de Sade, etc., etc.) is a far more debauched character than Palpatine ever could be, and I can't say I can support him as a character (again, the only reason I'm supporting the Empire is because A., even if painted in a very bad light, it is still based on America, and I simply cannot root against my own home country especially, and that's where B. comes in, the "heroes" were specifically modeled after Communists, the very same guys who spent their time slaughtering many of us Christians, and seemed more motivated to cause chaos simply for the sake of chaos in an unholy blend of anarchy and totalitarianism than actually governing). Palpatine may have been a monster, but at least he made sure the Empire still had law and order, while the guys I listed thought they should run the places they ruled to the ground, it being the entire point behind their actions, and have everyone slaughter each other, even their own friends, just for fun. Just read up on what the French Revolution was like. They didn't even NEED a death star to conduct terrorism. They did their horrors in the open.