Thread:Jester of chaos/@comment-32544675-20181119213534/@comment-32544675-20181119231903

But they're still the heroes of the story, and there are conditions wherein if its for the greater good or there is not choice then it is unfair and ridiculous to give them a "villain" page when they like Lise are neither the villains of their story or have any better option. There is already normal neutral wikia entry for Lise on fandom that doesn't even need a "hero" or "villain" label and theme and its much more comprehensive and unbiased than the one written here.

All the hero characters help the "tyrant" in Schwarzesmarken because they're all working together at one point or another because its either that or total annihilation by an alien horde, temporary dictatorial government in the face of the Earth being destroyed isn't grounds for villainhood, thats just how the military works you follow orders or you get court martialed. Not every character who falls under those circumstances should have an entry on a villain wikia, and based on the qualifiiers you've set for Lise having one that would include every character in Schwarzesmarken.