Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-366087-20170520171654/@comment-366087-20170523205428

Personally? I say "Hero".

See, we only have the one narrative for her. The one movie. The main arc of her narrative is after her redemption with her past only in flashbacks. Her days of being a servant of Evil—and although she followed the instructions of her father, *was* she truly evil? She *did* easily fall in love with her target. So was it a case of her being inherently evil, or discharging a duty she never had cause before to question—and that was at least 12 (how old was Kubo? His age) years *before* the movie started.

It is *my* opinion that we want Villains in their main narratives, not looking to expand on their pasts. Especially if we have to *dig* for it.

For example, Plastic Man's origin (at least in the original origin *I* grew up on half a century ago, dunno what it is currently) had him as a criminal who fell into a chemical vat during a heist. Upon discovery of his powers, he decided *immediately* he could/should change and be a hero. In his early adventures, he tried to maintain a secret identity as a criminal while being a hero to bring the underworld to justice from within. I recall him riding in a car, his arm out the window, and stretching it to appear as "Plastic Man's arm" reaching for them…

Now, we're not going to start a page on him here just because he *used* to be a villain. In his narrative that was extremely short-term and changed the moment he gained powers, so he is best known as a Hero. I'm not even sure if many even *know* he used to be a crook.

There needs to be a *significant* amount of a character's narrative devoted to the evil portion of their lives. Like, One whole movie (Sunset Shimmer, Starlight Glimmer) or a whole season (Zuko, or the like.

Now, those numbers I just tossed out should be considered as guidelines and not necessarily any sort of *strict* numbers. As mentioned, some exceptions always exist, so asking is always advisable.

Now, I just recently tagged Nyota Uhura for deletion because it is building upon a character we hardly see. In point of fact, we only saw her in the brig as Mirror-Kirk was tossed in, and never again. So the page for Mirror-Uhura is mostly fanon and built upon the actions of Hero-Uhura. And that is not what this wiki is about.

It *seems* like there might be additional content being gleaned from a novel, but if so there is no citation, and *if anything*, that is probably where the bulk of her information should be focused upon.