Thread:Joe Devaney/@comment-27729149-20150923083817/@comment-26204029-20150923164222

Okay, I don't know what show you've been watching becuase there are plenty of villains that aren't that evil at all. And really, Joffrey was a spoiled, cowardly, apathetic, egotistical brat who had BABIES killed in order to prevent them from succeeding his throne, among other heinous acts too numerous to name, and believed that being king meant everyone was his to torment to his pleasure. It hardly takes a genius to figure out that's a CM by any story's standards.

As for Tenpenny, there may be worse than him, but there's no question that he doesn't just cross the MEH. He turns around so he can cross it again and again and again. He's taken completely seriously (as opposed to Tommy, who's largely played for laughs), he has FBI agents killed to cover his tracks, he despises everyone but himself (and boy, does he love himself) and is just a downright unpleasant sociopath. What really makes him stand out, however, is that he didn't even have the decency to admit he was evil. Instead, he was just a vicious, Knight Templar cop who was convince he was taking out the trash when really, all he was doing was killing anyone who could expose how utterly corrupt he was. TV Tropes may not list him as a CM but they're not always right. They abuse the Anti Hero trope so much it's almost scary. And I personally don't see how Donald Love is a CM. If he was, he would have killed Toni as soon as he was longer of any use to him. Yes, his acts in LCS were deplorable but I don't he can count since in GTA 3 he's portrayed as nowhere near as bad.