Thread:Jester of chaos/@comment-31330278-20180211164358/@comment-31330278-20180804225314

1. From your description, Clyde sound like a soft version of. Clyde didnt had a taste for blood, but the fact both he and Kratos was indifferent to strangers' deaths make them kinda similar. It's weird to think about a good man like Clyde as a psychopath. With that said, you do have a point with how certain psychopaths can have a good motive, but still be bad people. That probably the reason Motherface is also a psychopath. She is a homocidal sociopath after all. When you say it, killing innocents just to kill the main target is truly a psychopathic thing to do. Thanks for bringing that up. Does it mean Ashley might be considered as a psychopath if she'll be determinant enough to kill Armada's friends and be paranoid in her pre-redemption version? Also, another character i'm not sure whether it's a psychopath or not is Stupidface. Psychopaths are many times cunning and/or intelligent. Stupidface was none. Given he was nuts a, had no motive and was careless about the consequences of his homocidal stupidity, i think he might be psychoptic. For the record: Psychotics can be dangerous and many of them are evil. Some are pure evil. Just saying that cruel and malicious people who doesnt think about their actions might be psychotics rather than psychopaths. Sometimes both.

2. The executives had their fair share of desolving the character, no doubt here, but Topher Grace have a bigger part of Venom's failed incarnation. A good actor can hold a character to any extent even if the good people make wrong decisions. It's kinda like with Stupidface. The character wasn't much to say the least, but Matthew Lillard nailed it and made him rememberable. Good thinking with Cameron Monaghan as Carnage. Meta at its finest. You just gave me a question to think about: Eddie Broke is redeeming himself one step at a time. Especially in the upcoming movie. Carnage is the best villain possible for this guy and for the second installment. You just know you wrote the right villain when another villain become part of the heroes group. But the symbiots are attracted to the inner drakness. If Eddie will be redeemed completely, wouldn't it cancel his darkness and scare the symbiot away? If that will happen, how will Eddie be powerful enough to be Peter's equal and Carnage's bright reflection and one of his worst enemies? That option is scary, because full redemption will take Eddie's most unique feature away and kill Venom.

3. I have a theory why Hawley is invisible. Because he see nobody as equals, which make him unworthy to be seen. Know what i mean? Hearing even Mister Hyde hate him make Hawley very scary. How low can someone go for Mister Hyde, a man who kill Elders and girls in all ages for his sick pleasure of having power over helpless civilians, to being repulsed by him? The fact he used his invisibility to rape the college students and make it appear as if "a mysterious spirit causing girls to get pregnant" made me understand something horrible about the Jesus' myth. They always say "the father, the son and the holy spirit". Judging from the fact Beata Maria got pregnant allegedly without male involvement, long before sperm donations were possible, the likely option is that she was raped and couldnt tell anyone due to the dark times she lived in :-(. I can't express enough how much its saddens me. If Hawley have any symbolizm, it must be the writer's critisism about the absent, if not diabolical, god.

4. On the other side of the "corruptable, but no worse than the true villains" scale, which Indoraptor is in the technically villanous side, i have some of my heroes. Just like how Indoraptor is no worse than any other villain in his franchise, the following are no worse than the true villains in their own settings, albeit not pure souls:

A. Hawarged: He's a good orc, but Khelshot worked overtime with making him not 100% heroic. His first words after coming back from a long medical treatment were "i hate orcs!". An orc who hate himself while loyal and caring toward his comrads. Aint that tragic? His anti-heroic (or anti-villainous. Depends how you interpetate the character) scene will be when his commander, Katelyn the mage, encouraging the troops with "long live humanity!" speech. But when the soldiers are in the peak of their extasis and enthusiasm? When Haward will shout "death to all orcs!". That portayal of Hawarged is meant both to highlight Khelshot's utter maliciousness and show a hero who struggle both his enemies and his own dark side. Struggling to not become the very monsters whom you fight is hard and painful.

B. Jane: Courteney and Berthold found her all alone, without functioning parents. She become badass as the story goes on and will defence her adoptive parents with her life. However, the apocalypse take its toll. At the moment Jane stabbed a pigman to death and saw the creature bleeding while shouting "die, pig! Die!", it became clear that Courteney and Berthold have even more reasons to be concerned. Jane do her best to do the right thing and keep her loved one safe, but one human child might not stay pure at the face of a world where pigmen, monsters, feral humans and not always nice sentient beings roaming free. Things like that are what Freidrich the general meant when saying "it's easy to hate. Easy to become an animal. Every day it's keep getting easier. That's the hard part". Many heroes kills their attackers and just glad to be alive, even if they rightfully hate the attacker. Jane, despite being a good person who try to do the right thing, feel catharsis everytime she kill an enemy. She wasn't always like that. She just became like that throughout the story.

As a guy whom many of his heroes have corrupting qualities, what would you say about the quality of these characters?

5. You got me all fascinated about DC universe. I still like Batman more than any other setting in that universe' but still. I'm starting to find Flash as interesting. Given Grodd and Professor Zoom are his archenemies, he must be in high quality. Grodd i already knew. Professor Zoom and his backstory make me want to learn more about Flash in my free time. And Nightwing. You reminded me how much i like him and how much i want to learn more about him in my free time. Thanks for leading me back home on that matter :-). I always knew Richard Grayson work better in his own right. When i used to play "Injustice", i played him everytime i didnt played Catwoman. Rose and her father's one-eyed mask just become a whole lot creepier. Previously i was sure that mask was only a mask. I dont dig for Kefka, but Joker, Carnage and now Owlman are pages everyone should take notes from when writing good villains and costumizing them good heroes. I dont think existentialism is a positive form of nihilism. Being existentialist make you a firm opposer to nihilism by definition. But interesting way to see it. Here's a funny trivia: I was thinking of seeing "Batman and the mask of the Phantasm", but when i searched it on a site of direct watch, i stumbled upon "The Laughting Mask". I still work on my written opinion about it. Cool slasher-mystery movie. Would you recommend seeing "Batman and the mask of Phantasm" as well, or sticking to other animated DC movies and the Nolan trilogy?