Thread:BeholderofStuff/@comment-2059440-20181104050249/@comment-3581997-20181105195449

To hell with morality. Morality is subjective and we are extensions of an encyclopedic website (however very flawed we may be by comparison to an Encyclopedia) I say stick to the original litmus test for antagonists. Antagonist = creates conflict, Protagonist = resolves plot. Let us all pull our heads out of our butts about if a character is good, an extremist, bad, tragic, an-anti-hero, anti-villain et cetra, et cetra. Does he/she/it create conflict in the flow of the narrative presented to us the audience? Now we can say, well they used to but they turned out to be the decoy villain, or it was a misunderstanding, but a story stilled used them as the agent of conflict in order to unfold so that would still be an antagonist. A simple "yes" or "no" If it is both then fine, make one on each wiki but let's not go swallowing the hype about how "Edgy" someone is or getting drunk off our own limited perspective of what is moral, because history has had far too many Crusades already. Set the edge-lord nonsense and moral finger wagging aside and just look mechnically at the role a character players.