Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-6091796-20170623163545/@comment-366087-20170625002609

BigWalt71 wrote: Okay, how about Patrick Verona […] The characters in the film say he ate a live duck once […] Did the movie *show* him doing it? Or is it hearsay?

One thing we have to be careful of is and, the tendency for exaggerations, both intentional and unintentional. Not everything *other characters say or claim* is TRUE or accurate. They might believe at various points that X is true, but they can be wrong. For example, when a protagonist is accused of doing X which they protest they didn't do, and *we* know they didn't do.

THE STORY, the Narrative, has to be what tells us a character's traits and villainy. Not so much other characters, which might be hearsay or even untruths. BigWalt71 wrote: But the reason I think Joey is a villain is because he tries to steal Bianca from Cameron and even inadvertently lets Kat Stratford know the bet he and Patrick made is off, causing her to be horrified beyond belief, something a villain would do. Sorry, but that is just plain reaching. Rules say that just because we don't like something does no make it villainous.