Thread:Xmike920/@comment-1775111-20151022192338/@comment-1396848-20151023231122

With Hopper his one would be redeeming quality is snuffed out because he constantly abuses Molt at every turn, and feels a strong urge to kill him, and gets mad when it is ever brought up, and it does not do enough his vile actions throughout the course of the film.

And Muntz while heinous has a questionible moral agency as well as some pet the dog moments, so therefore he fails the heinous test. Unlike Syndrome who was fully self aware (Syndromes "excuse" is even weaker than Lotso's) All because you were told "no you cant be super" and rejected of a childhood fantasy by your boyhood idol, did not give him any right or justification for becoming a genocidal serial killer.