Thread:Overseer80/@comment-25030828-20140606141700/@comment-25030828-20140607151331

Oh... I'm not trying to pick a fight here, so yeah... sorry if I came off as too standoffish.

1. Ah, I understand why you would feel that way about his Freudian Excuse now. But I think that the circumstances surrounding their redemption opportunities are a little different: Lotso received tangible help, but still decided to betray his saviours with sadistic relish; Po kind of botched his well-intentioned, scratch that, extremely well-intentioned offer with a joke about scars, so I do not think it was as effective, as kind and brave as Po was. Besides, he gave up on fighting Po after accepting his fate – he, in a way, let Po walk free. His death was more of a moment of personal acceptance, of coming to terms with fate and his own mortality – not really a sadistic, nihilistic desire to take as many people as he can down with him. Well, at least that's what I feel.

Really? Last I checked, that bit of information was nowhere to be found on TV Tropes. It's not on the Main page, YMMV page, Character page or the Trivia page. Besides, I think the creator's commentary also portrays Shen in a slightly sympathetic light.

I still think he's sympathetic, but I can understand why you would think otherwise.

2. Hmm... I think Virtuously Vile makes sense now in this aspect. I do agree that it isn't a very familial relationship, but at least it holds certain semblance of a familial relationship – definitely not a prisoner-master relationship. Also, I think he does seem to genuinely consider her words in the Fireworks Factory – there are brief flickers of remorse in his face, unless I am hallucinating.

3. Haha... Yeah, I know. TV Tropes is weird like that.

If I remember correctly, Pre Vizsla is not afraid to punish/execute underperforming minions? So yeah...

Joseph Stalin... I'm not so sure.

Oh yeah, I remember that one. Man, I guess someone had a thing against all villains.

Haven't played the Mass Effect games, but I did a quick search... Nothing screams "baby-devouring monster" about this woman.

I think Syndrome was more a case of a bruised ego, not really heartbreakingly hurt. And Scar... they do have a sympathetic backstory for him that was explored in a book tie-in to the movie, I think, but if you go by the movie itself, Scar's definitely not sympathetic at all. Darth Bane and Zannah... well, one had an abusive childhood while the other barely survived a traumatic life-and-death. If that's not sympathetic, then I don't know what is.

I agree, the site is becoming more and more... professional, and not in a very good way.