’Snuff Filmer’ is a specific term referring to filming of murders. But for the sake of this wiki, should the term and category apply to those who film rape and torture (but not necessarily murders) count as well?
’Snuff Filmer’ is a specific term referring to filming of murders. But for the sake of this wiki, should the term and category apply to those who film rape and torture (but not necessarily murders) count as well?
I think Alan Yates fits that bill pretty well as a snuff filmer, so I wouldn’t see why not
I'd say yes.
oh, that IS what the category means in fiction anyway.. half the time Snuff Film just means "murder that is filmed and found / uploaded to public".. it is horribly inaccurate but so is "psychopath" for every violent lunatic but fiction is fiction for a reason.
for the sake of fiction "Snuff Film" has always meant "filmed torture / murder" - regardless of monetary gain or not.
thanks for answers! Speaking of what you said about psychopaths in fiction, Scottish, while we are on the subject, do characters like Joker (Nolanverse), Patrick Bateman and Norman Stansfield belong in Psychopath or Psychotic category? Almost everyone who have seen these characters whould call them "psychopaths", and it would be dissapointing not to call them that. Bateman could arguably belong to both, since American Psycho is a very artistic book/movie that leaves it up to the audience to decide if Bateman IS a mass killer or doesn't even know whats real (if you have read/seen the book/movie you know what im talking about). Norman is just a psychopath with a drug addiction, and Joker is either totally insane or a psychopath who is heavily obsessed with his nihilistic philosophy - "I'm not a monster - Im just ahead of the curve".
pretty sure the two aren't exclusive - ANYONE can suffer psychosis and psychopathy is a personality disorder.. you can be both a psychopath and a psychotic.. the whole "utterly insane" rule is flawed because no one, even the most disturbed psychotic, is permanently out of their heads and all of them can register *some* degree of reality (even the infamous Caligula would know some reality, despite how crazy fiction makes him out to be).
if one fits the criteria of both I don't see how they can't be added, the Hannibal quote about all psychopaths being sane is also flawed - to quote the Devil from Devil's Advocate : "consider the source".. Hannibal is himself a psychopath so using his quote about all them being sane is dubious as it is a very high case of Unreliable Narrator.. a guy who cannibalizes people and masterminds gruesome crimes is not someone qualified to say all psychopaths are sane, since it is questionable how sane he truly is anyway.
not all psychopaths are sane, not all psychotics are permanently insane.. this is why we shouldn't of got rid of the "sociopath" subcategory for psychopaths.. sociopath would work perfectly for characters who are too unpredictable to be classed as "traditional psychopaths" but clearly have psychopathic tendencies in addition to psychosis.