Obluda511 i agree that joker is overrated but he does have some great (origin?) stories, like the killing joke, joker 2019, and many more. However, DC should use other villians who are in my opinion more interesting, like riddler, man bat, penguin, and two face

Slenderminion Then why do they attack you? You don't play as their murderer in any of the games (Except maybe in fnaf 1 but keep in mind that the game wasn't meant to have a lore, and it's messy too, why can't they just be in release order or more clear?)

> Elizabeth wants to earn her father's love and approval

So she murders people? Because? Im not asking for a complicated motivation, but just make things a little more clear. Mystery for the sake of mystery doesn't work in this scenario

>Vanny is brainwashed and desperately tries to regain control of her consciousness

Again, what reason does she have to kill? They are by definition evil for the sake of evil, because their motivation is poor and underdeveloped. The "lore" wasn't even a thing until the third game, so many things don't make sense. Instead of making a prequel that explains many things, the game devs made cash grabs. Not to mention that the whole "lore" is fan service, and so it's more messy

@HvBush69 Elizabeth murders because her father is William, a serial killer who only ever cared about his twisted hobby. So maybe, just maybe, following in his footsteps will make him proud of her. And Vanny kills because she is literally not in control of her actions, Glitchtrap/Afton is. She's possessed. She doesn't want to hurt anyone.

And the animatronics in 1 and 2 attack you because they only know their killer was an employee of Fazbear Entertainment (he was disguised in a rabbit costume, so they obviously don't know what he looked like), hence why they attack all employees. In 3 the animatronic is Springtrap, aka William so natch. In 4 the animatronics attack you because it's a nightmare. In Sister Location they attack you because they need your body for their plan to escape.

The only two characters in the games who kill for the sake of it are William Afton and Funtime Freddy, and even then the latter does it partially because he's programmed to by William.

> Elizabeth murders because her father is William, a serial killer who only ever cared about his twisted hobby. So maybe, just maybe, following in his footsteps will make him proud of her

One of the most cliche tropes, which is not a bad thing by itself, but it's executed *very* poorly, hell, not even chirs nolan could executive it properly, scott is not to blame, but this trope doesn't work 80% of the time. Also, Elizabeth has no backstory,except for that she dies and now she is evil. That's bad writing, nothing else. I'm not saying she needs joker level character development, but at least give some reason to why she goes mad.

> And Vanny kills because she is literally not in control of her actions, Glitchtrap/Afton is. She's possessed. She doesn't want to hurt anyone.

Which is still the same thing. Also, her character is barley developed, meaning that you can barley understand anything. Also i get that it's meant to be theorized, but at least give us something to know that she is a 3rd dimension character not just another antagonist for the sake of having one.

I can somewhat understand the animatronic gang, however, there are still many flaws (like the ones i mentioned before)

The worst written villain has to probably be Oberon from SAO, his only defining traits are that he is mentally unstable and that he does the mature assault to Asuna.

This guy literally has no redeemable qualities, nor any that make him stand out or feel cool. Hell, his design was stupid.

@Obluda511 What you think of Sauron and Morgoth? Are they better written villains than Voldemort and Palpatine?

The Night King, Snoke and Not Important.

Any Jeff the killer related creepy pasta villains

Sonic.exe he doesnt have that much of a backstory (forgive me if im wrong about that) but i mean like come on how did he get like that tho what happened to sonic to make him do that in the game i mean i heard he got possesed by some demon (at least thats what i remember) but why would the demon do that

I mean come on man its a sonic game bro you couldnt posses like a glock or a sword or some crap but no you choose an old sonic game cartridge what kind of choice is that?