Even I hate Jason that much, he wasn’t racist and I was a little surprise that people called Jason racist just to smear his character even though that’s not true.

Jason was in grief from losing his girlfriend and best friend and misunderstood the situation. Mason said he would have helped if he knew about Vecna from the start.

Billy was racist, abusive, misogynistic and a homicidal bully. He was a psycho before Vecna possessed him.

Agree and disagree.

What sets them apart is their tragedies. Yes, Billy was a worse person, but he also had a much worse life, growing up relatively poor, with his loving mother abandoning him when he was young and his father abusing him for over a decade. Jason’s tragedy is much quicker and more built upon his unawareness of the situation around him, which makes him come across as a selfish idiot trying to play hero, even if his motives run a bit deeper than that (it’s heavily implied that he’s insecure and feels like he failed Chrissy as a boyfriend).

Also setting them apart is how when Eleven tries to reason with Billy, he actually listens and chooses to die redeeming himself. In contrast, when Lucas tries to reason with Jason, Jason refuses to listen, leading to a much more pathetic and unnecessary death.

@Fower42 man that makes me look at the scene of Jason crying in the woods different now.

But yeah Billy had the advantage of knowing about Mind Flayer from the start. Mason Dye says Jason would have helped if he knew but he couldn’t trust Lucas, since the latter had tricked him and was in a murder house attic with a girl in a trance. He could have helped the heroes but unfortunately it was not to be.

I do agree Billy’s past is slightly more sympathetic

Agreed

I mean, Billy redeemed himself so he’s not all bad.

@NoEntertainment16 oh no argument there at all. We’re simply saying people shouldn’t be saying Jason is worse than Billy because of that. Brenner redeemed himself yet still is way worse than Jason and we’re saying Billy is too since he was a racist sadistic bully whereas Jason lost his mind after his girlfriend and best friend died.

Yeah, I do feel bad for Jason, who went through far more than Billy, but they each have their own redeeming qualities

Let’s be honest; few of us would remain sane if we witness our best friend get levitated into the air and supernaturally murdered.

Or have our lover brutally murdered with no evidence or motive