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Is there a term you’d rather use?

According to the admins:

The only terms that will be used now will be main, secondary, major, supporting and minor.

Aslo what happened to the Overarching role?

Aslo what happened to the Overarching role?

Yeah, well Central can be more descriptive if used. Take Sundowner from Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance. For pretty much the entire game leading up until his boss fight, he was the game’s main antagonist. It’s later revealed that he was just a pawn of Senator Armstrong in his conquest to end war with war. He’s not the main antagonist, because that role goes to Senator Armstrong. He’s not the secondary antagonist, because that title belongs to Jetstream Sam. He can’t be a tertiary antagonist, because he was way too important of a villain to be considered tertiary. In the end, Central antagonist makes sense. He was the main antagonist for most of the game until revealed otherwise, being the CENTER of the story. Therefore making him the CENTRAL antagonist.

He essentially was thought to be running everything (and he *kind* of did considering that he helped Armstrong with his company), but it turned out that Armstrong is truly the one directing the conflict by creating the plan to remake America and funding Desperado.

I don't really see that as necessarily a good reason to keep central when major antagonist is still a thing even if they aren't secondary. Keep in mind there are many major antagonists who look like main or secondary at first but later reveal they aren't.

I don't really see how that can be the case though...

Sundowner clearly has more importance than Sam, for example. Even the new rules have clarified that their scale depends on how much influence they have on a story from the perspective of the main protagonist, and that makes sense.

@Acrokinesis6309 overarching is still allowed according to the update blog and the antagonist scale page.