Kai the Collector

What is your favorite J.K. Simmons’s role for a villain?

Mine is Kai the Collector from Kung Fu Panda 3.

I made this awesome post for him with some of his different characters, even half of his characters aren't villains, due to some being heroic or neutral, it's still something i gathered them to join.

Both are great and over-hated villains but I think Chameleon is better overall.

I am highly annoyed by Chameleon's backstory being reduced to "Oh, she was too smol to do kung fu when Mantis exists" !!

A well known DreamWorks animator explained how her backstory fits with the canon.

I think Kai's backstory has more depth and sounds excellent on paper but poorly executed. Kai is overrated a lot just because of his larger than life action spectacle and theme score in my opinion.

The main reason why I think Chameleon is more well-written is because she is a better thematic foil to Po. They were both prejudiced for their appearances but Po had the support of a spiritual leader like Oogway. They both align with theme of change as Chameleon relied on external transformations to manipulate and assert control while Po and Zhen embraced internal growth. Po and Chameleon are polar opposites as mentors. On the other hand, Kai's arc of revenge and legacy felt disjointed from Po's arc of recognizing individuality and identity. Not to mention no one remembering him is treated like a joke and not really makes me connect with Oogway betraying him. Yes, there are some connections like Po gives chi and Kai takes chi but there isn't really much thematic contrasts between them. Maybe Kai would have been a stronger thematic foil if he had some of his own students and imposed his rigid teachings on them, trying to suppress their own creativity and styles.

I am not gonna into much depth because I know this post would either be ignored or bombarded with disagreements but I am gonna remain firm in my opinion.

Here are examples:

Karen Plankton from SpongeBob SquarePants.

Karai from Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (2012)

Kraang Prime from Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (2012)

Kraang Subprime from Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (2012)

Katty Katswell from T.U.F.F. Puppy. 😼

Ke-Pa from Kung Fu Panda: Legends of Awesomeness. 🐲

Kai the Collector from Kung Fu Panda 3. 🐂

Kuvira from The Legend of Korra.

Kylo Ren from Star Wars: The Squeal Trilogy.

And King Runeard from Frozen II.

I just love villains they are the best! Like them more than the heroes and since it’s my birthday I wanna give you my top fav villains of all time!

1. Metal Sonic 🥇

2. Darth Vader 🥈

3. Starscream 🥉

4. Emperor Palpatine

5. Dr Facilier

6. King Boo

7. Adam (hazbin hotel)

8. Kai The Collector

9. Doctor Doom

10. Bill cipher

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Hi everyone! I just got the news from Jack Black's TikTok account that The Chameleon, the upcoming villainess of Kung Fu Panda 4, will be voiced by our dear Viola Davis, none other to us than the DC Extended Universe's Amanda Waller and Dr. Gaul in The Hunger Games: The Ballad of Songbirds & Snakes! What do you think? Her past villainous roles easily convince me that she can pull an antagonist perfectly, though this one would be her first animated one.

By the way, according to official DreamWorks given synopsis, the Chameleon is a tiny lizard sorceress who can shapeshift into every creature and wishes to steal the Staff of Wisdow from Po so she can summon Tai Lung, Lord Shen and Kai the Collector back from the Spirit World to the realm of the living, leading Po to train a crafty vixen named Zhen so she can become the next Dragon Warrior as they try to save the Valley of Peace from this new threat.

Your thoughts?