<p>This is my second attempt at removing as I personally don't think Hidan has any business being on the category. </p><p>
</p><p>Hidan's actions aren't unique and are somewhat shared with Kakuzu. Hidan and Kakuzu together defeat Yugito, kill a bunch of mooks in a temple, torture and kill Asuma, and try to kill Shikamaru. Both of the former two Hidan did with Kakuzu's assistance. </p><p>
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</p><p>Naruto has a very, very high heinous standard with nearly every major villain having uber large bodycounts. Pain kills a whole country worth of people, Tobi/Obito starts a world war that kills thousands of people, Kabuto commits mass necromancy forcing the dead to fight their loved ones to the death, Orochimaru performs fatal experiments on babies. </p><p>
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</p><p>The resource argument also doesn't work as villains with just as much power, if not less have really large bodycounts. Zabuza as a kid slaughtered about a hundred kids, Sasori is a Serial Killer who converts his victims bodies into puppets, etc. Torture also isn't at all unique. Itachi tortures people, Orochimaru tortures people, Gato tortures people, Danzo tortures people.</p><p>
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</p><p>Hidan is also kind of comedic. Some of his lines and his reaction to Asuma slicing his head off is comedy gold.</p><p>
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Doesn't Aku know good from evil though?
<p>Krabs has done worse, but I will lean toward a yes.</p>
<p>Why? His actions aren't all that special.</p>
<p>No.</p>
<p>Most don't, as most adult cartoons are unfortunately comedies where heinous acts aren't taken very serious. However there is a rare few such as Final Space and Samurai Jack in it's fifth season.</p>
<p>There have been numerous instances on here where villains who were upvoted or downvited initially were reevaluated (Sofia, Rotti Largo, Montgomery de la Cruz, etc).</p><p>
</p><p>Hidan could have been worse. He only truly crosses the MEH once or twice. A lot of people eclipse his body count. Torture and sadism is nothing new. </p>
</p><p>Hidan could have been worse. He only truly crosses the MEH once or twice. A lot of people eclipse his body count. Torture and sadism is nothing new. </p>
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<p>@Misry, when you say "no" you mean keep or cut?</p>
<p>Rotti Largo was downvoted once, but was discussed and the upvoted. This is a legitmate discussion with how high the heinous standard and how common Hidan's crimes ultimately are in the grand scheme of things.</p>
<p>Easy keep. </p>
<p>No. Plankton in the same film does worse (stealing Neptune's crown, framing Krabs and attempting to have him executed, sending Dennis to kill Spongebob and Patrick in the first place, enslaving Bikinini Bottom).</p>
<p>The problem is this isn't a good one. Madame Satan is a cut but the effort poster isn't providing any sort of argument, aside from a one liner claiming that she is an anti villainn without any sort of context.</p>
<p>Yes.</p>
<p>What you do is, you can post the proposals on different users message walls asking them if they could vote.</p>
<p>Well the thread maker didn't really explain exactly why she doesn't count. Based off what I heard she is indeed a cut but someone needs to make a better removal proposal.</p>
<p>1) From what I hear, she is not an anti villain (or atleast didn't start out as one).</p><p>
</p><p>2) You need to give more specific reasons for why she should be removed.</p>
</p><p>2) You need to give more specific reasons for why she should be removed.</p>
<p>Idk it seems fishy a user I have never seen make a single edit before who's username is conveniently named "Professor Ratigan" post on a Ratigan proposal thread. Hmmm.....</p>
<p>Drowning the orphans was offscreen. Aside from that he is a generic disney bad guy, so no.</p>
<p>Yes.</p>
<p>Also with (fake) Adelaide she seems to care for her family.</p><p>
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</p><p>One of the main messages of the film is the "narure vs nurture" theme which is why none of the Tethers can count. Their lives were destined to be miserable and are only lashing out on people they feel are taking it for granted. </p>
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</p><p>One of the main messages of the film is the "narure vs nurture" theme which is why none of the Tethers can count. Their lives were destined to be miserable and are only lashing out on people they feel are taking it for granted. </p>