Sounds sensible enough. The heroes wiki is a sister wiki, and as such, many of the mechanics in one wiki applies to the other.
You really got deep into your role :-).
On a serious note: I can't put Talia Al Ghul in that list. Talia is tragic (and in "Son Of Batman", even motherly). When i make my own "all time worst" list, Talia is too sympathetic to appear on that list.
Nice post. From the 6 villains you brought here, i'm torn between Palpatine (alien Hitler) and Joker (the embodiment of senseless destruction). There are some other villains that are fitting to the "all time worst" list: Voldemort, Sauron, [[Sofia Lamb]], Judge Frollo, Scar, [[Robert Parker]], [[Ramsay Bolton]], [[Naraku]], Carnage, Sharptooth and [[Jamie Moriarty]] are some names jumping to my head right now.
Even though Dennis is serious, he's not pure evil for the same reason Jafar ain't pure evil. It's hard to explain, but his villainy is the standard even for a light-hearted setting.
Harold, i can see what you mean, except SpongeBob universe was never meant to be taken seriously. "Lion King" is a universe which its villains are played for serious. Scar is unique because he's based on Hitler and all. Dennis is just another standard hitman.
I vote no. Denis is just the standard villain. If he was a human, or in a more serious setting, that might've been different. But it's a cartoon fish. Also, i believe you would be more convincing if you were saying things like "the villainy standard of Spongbob Squarepants is low" plus all of the reasons possible.
Not sure Super Bu was recycled. Just a demonic bubblegum. Not much of a character.
I Voten "keep". Madam Satan is iredeemably evil. Loopr would explain it better.
Hell yeah. This is a rodent Moriarty. A literal dirty rat who must be pure evil. I vote yes
Easily yes. I always thought Sofia is irredeemably evil. Thanka for phrasing it the best way possible.
Current votes count: 2 "yes", by me and Looper.
It's not like that. You're talking about harsh education methods. Making "loved ones" suffer is far worse. Example:
A. Mother Gothel claimed she cares about Rapunzel, but all she did was locking Rapunzel inside the tower for her own selfish end. A soft version of what Frollo did to the poor hunchback.
B. Many possessive people claim they love someone, but it's just being obsessed control freaks. Many delusional people fall to this category.
C. Colonel McCullough can legitimately claim he cared about his family, but killing his own wife and son is something a psychopath would do. Not very caring.
By "down-playing" qualities, i mean "a PE can have these qualities, but it's less likely". Mills doesnt even have down-playing qualities. I promise to be more detailed and coherent at the official proposal.
The proposal is on its way, but until then, here are the reasons Mills is heinous enough:
1. Redeeming qualities: None. Not even down-playing qualities (like pawn, dimwit, necessary and such). He was serious, faux affably evil, ruthless, sophisticated and dangerous (not incompetent), cared about no one (not protective/in love/honorable), can't be justified (not tragic/scapegoat/insecure/brainwashed), have no remotely noble intentions (not extremist/anti-villain/grey zone/vigilante) and not even remorseful. I used to think he's remorseful, but after being informed he isn't, i can say loud and clear Mills won't recognize redemption even if it will devour his face.
2. Heinous standard:
A. Usually, all of the deaths in Jurassic Park are by dinosaurs, with the exception of Hammond, who died of natural causes. Mills killed a human being with his bare hands. It's not how many people he killed. It's killing the sick and benevolent Lockwood that makes it so horrible. Not to mention what he could do to Maisie if he became her legal guardian. The only other person who killed human beings is Dodgson, a guy who's well known to be pure evil. Only Dodgson, a man who killed at least 10 people by an experimental rabies vaccine, which at least one of the 10 people was a child, can compete Mills in the villainy chart.
B. If Mills' plan would succeed, he could've cause a 3rd world war with all of the dinosaurs he sold. Selling dinosaurs as biological warfare for weapons dealers mean he have part in crimes of high treason all over the world. And look what he did to Indoraptor. Turned him into one of those cruel dogs who murders children. That's only a glimpse of what he could've done to Maisie, for example, or other creatures for that matter. Even Hoskins and Wu didnt treated Indominus-Rex as badly as Mills treated to Indoraptor. I-Rex was neglected. Indoraptor was beyond neglection. He was abused to no end. I cant express that enough: Mills is responsible to the biggest suffering of any character in the whole franchise. Wu is the bigger bad and the indirect responsible to most casualties, but Mills caused the most horrible suffering a single character had even been through.
C. Even Hoskins can claim he wanted to achieve the greater good in a dangerous and psychopathic way. Mills, just like Dodgson, was thinking about one person, and one person only.
Honestly? The only thing make Mills less evil than Dodgson is that Dodgson killed at least one child without even touching him. Mills was disturbingly close to do it.
Conclusion: I'll probably be more detailed in the proposal, but evidences shows he's a Dodgson. He wasn't even remorseful, so he can't be anything but pure evil.
Strongly disagree. I'll propose him again eventually. He's actually very heinous in JP standards. Would you like to hear the reasons here, or on private?
I do understand. Westcott is just an idiot. Nobody want people he/she cares about to suffer. The part where non-psychopath PE villains are mostly completely emotionless is self-explanatory. [[DOR-15]] is a good example. She ain't sadistic because she's a homicidal robot. No emotions at all. Carnage isn't a psychopath because his psychosis is scary even some psychopaths we know. On a personal note: Soon i'll propose Eli Mills to PE category, but i must say i'm not sure if he's sadistic. More like a cold and heartless "i do business and doesnt give a flying fuck about who'll get hurt".
He's a psychopath. Sociopaths are something else. Sociopaths are less calculated and can make true bonds with more people. Psychopaths are cold, even the crazy and wrathful ones, and can make bonds with only a handful of people at best. Psychopaths are much more likely to be pure evil than sociopaths do.
A rule of thumb say that if a PE villain isn't a psychopath, he/she can only be either the most depraved kind of psychotic or a completely emotionless being (like the queen from ICO).
As someone who saw the seties and re-watch it as we speak, i vote yes. Walder Frey is a Joffrey. Pure evil.