I’m mainly an iPhone user, and I notice that when I attempt to open up a page of certain villains listed under Pure Evil, I’m given the circle of death and it either takes a really long time to load the page (in a good circumstance) or it just takes so long I give up. It doesn’t apply to EVERY villain under Pure Evil, but a high majority of them. That being said, on one hand, I’m amused because I’m thinking “I get that this is the villains wiki and not the Pure Evil wiki, but isn’t this taking it a bit too far?” And on the other hand, I’m frustrated because I am genuinely curious about this wiki’s perspective on villains like King Runeard (when exactly did he get approved again? This is just a question of pure curiosity) and I can’t access their pages. Many thanks for anything that’s at least an explanation behind what’s happening.
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That actually makes a lot of sense. One example I can think of that I could access was the Enchantress from Shovel Knight, who was added before the rules. Most villains who I can’t get to tend to be more recent inclusions to the category
Hmmm, I see. Does it happen on pages for villains that aren’t Pure Evil as well?
While back, I asked some curious questions and I’ve got more for now:
Lets say that hypothetically, a villain is trying to become a dictator or something like that, and it’s always been their life goal, and they use their villainous ways to reach power, and after a while, the villain finally gains full control and is the soon-to-be tyrant of whatever they’re controlling. However, out of nowhere, said villain suffers a heart attack before they have the chance to really do anything with their newfound power. Since a heart attack is technically a “natural cause” of death, would this villain qualify as a karma houdini? Would whether or not said villain is pure evil have any effect on this as well?
Very personal and random subjective question: What’s the least evil Faux-Affably Evil villain you know of? Again subjective but curious about it. I chose this category specifically since it usually signifies which villains are particularly bad, in my eyes at least - a villain can be something like incompetent, or tragic, or even have numerous other redeeming qualities but a villain that can fake kindness (or just do whatever gets them qualified under that category) usually tend to be rather nasty, though again that’s just kind of a subjective term for me.
Fellow autist as well :)
This is actually a super good question. I’ve never really thought about that much, so I can’t give a definitive answer. However, I do feel like I’m generally drawn to either:
-Certain types of villain-by-proxies who get to fully redeem themselves
-Or villains who are capable of being genuine threats (so no incompetents) but also demonstrate some sense of honor at times, such as showing mercy towards certain people, caring about minions, or being willing to team up with the heroes to eliminate bigger and more evil threats.
What I meant about the “incinerator/shredder being sadistic,” is what other way could they have given Lotso a comeuppance without being sadistic? I am pretty bad at wording things but I meant that I couldn’t think of anything else besides the truck, incinerator, or shredder. As in what else could have happened to Lotso? I was never agreeing with the sadistic approach
It’s... hard to say.
I’m a pretty big stinker when it comes to karma houdinis (as in I despise a lot of them) but that would sound obvious.
I always felt like Lotso-Huggin-Bear got off too easy, but first, any comeuppance is better than none, and second, with the reasoning that the shredder or incinerator was too sadistic, what else would’ve happened?
Though I don’t have much experience in this kind of category of villains, I think that this is an awesome idea. A quick question though: how much information would be required for an unpublished villain? For instance, Crash Twinsanity was to have a different main antagonist than the final ones we got, and though we have a few tidbits, we just know he was the main antagonist and probably a villain and not much else. Would he be able to have a page on that wiki?
Ah that’s good :)
If that’s the case, I think it’s just a matter of remembering usernames and passwords...
I don’t know much about recovering that stuff, and I don’t know your passwords or usernames so I’m not the one to ask about that. I’m sorry bud
I don’t understand...? Do you mean you can’t edit the pages for some reason? I’ve seen people ask admins specifically to unlock pages temporarily to make needed edits. What do you mean by you can’t sign in? Do you use another account for edits?
As far as the Presumed Deceased villains go, I’m actually uncertain. You can hear out arguments that people give, but I’ve seen it on pages that leave me a bit... iffy, to say the least (like Mr. Jones from Toy Story). For 8, I’m sure that you can add the category itself, I don’t think a single category would be that huge of a difference. If it gets removed then, then you can contact an admin to see what’s up. And for whatever I didn’t mention, I’m sure you can ask around on message walls and they can provide assistance :)
Personally, I would like a bit of clarification when it comes to certain villains who I have seen fall under either Affably or Faux-Affably Evil. Again, this is just a request for clarification since I’m not too certain about a couple who I’ve seen:
1. Why is Nolan Sorrento under Affably Evil? As somebody who both read the book and watched the movie, I can acknowledge how he didn’t instantly resort to violence when it came to dealing with Wade at first but I just kind of felt like he crossed too many lines to remain AE (maybe not far enough to go to FAE but enough to fall out of AE), such as how he blew up Wade’s tower or having Daito murdered and his death covered up. Or is that not crossing the line enough? If that’s the case I can just be told that but I wanted to bring this up.
2. And why is Albert Contiello Faux-Affably Evil? I’m not gonna try to argue that he isn’t Pure Evil, trust me, but he really truly doesn’t try to fake any kindness or even try to hide his motivations from Nick when he captures him. The most we get to that is when Albert tells Nick to lie back down when the latter wakes up and hardly tries to stop him from getting up in the first place, and when Nick confronts him about what he’s doing, Albert makes his intentions very clear and just gets straight to the point- he isn’t trying to hide anything. Don’t get me wrong, that doesn’t downgrade Albert’s evil and I suppose what he does on his own, with the organ thefts and all that stuff is bad enough to be Pure Evil even in a zombie series but I don’t see him being Faux-Affably Evil. Was it the tone in which he spoke to Nick? Or is it the logic that being Pure Evil automatically puts a villain under FAE since they definitely aren’t AE? Just asking for clarification.
Nice dudes! We can trust that this wiki is in good hands :)
Since nobody’s caught on to this, I’d advise moving it to the blogpost section like the one with Jeremiah. You could save it for later too once Jeremiah’s over as well
I’m probably getting this wrong, but if I read what you said correctly, I think it would make them amoral because they lack a clear moral agency, but they are technically otherwise being willingly evil so they can’t be villains by proxy.
Before decisions are made can I suggest Grizzhly too? I feel that he’d do good as well
I think 694244 and Nerd are solid choices for content mods. Might I throw out MenInBlak? Or is he too absent/unwilling? He sounds relatively trustable to me.
While we’re discussing this, would it be okay if there was anyone who still preferred discussions for WHATEVER reason? I don’t plan to use it, but what about newbies who go here first, for example? It wouldn’t be counted against anyone who did choose to use discussions right?
Having voted in the original, I’m inclined to give an incredibly weak “cut.”
This is just me, and I’ll probably be refuted to heck over saying this but I’m not really into the “already discussed” vibe that people are claiming this to be. Sure, it was discussed before, I won’t argue against that but it was only once and not nearly as much as other villains such as Ernesto de la Cruz, or Light Yagami. I don’t feel like enough people gave their thoughts previously (kind of like how Looper reproposed Rowan North from the new Ghostbusters) but I don’t have control over other people’s thoughts, so I won’t actively fight back against that if that’s the general feeling among most people.