Its kind the point of an anti-hero, they all have heroic qualities about them but it just means they are not good people and have a lot of traits that a villain has, Jack Sparrow will lie, cheat and betray anyone he is close to to get to the end goal, doesn’t mean he’s a villain but he’s definitely not what you call a hero
Going to answer my own question...The way I see it is who do children as well as senior citizens know? probably not Thanos and a lot of kids wouldn’t know Sauron. So it’s a tossup between Bowser (Mario himself is mikey mouse famous but Bowser probably not) Voldemort is much more recent then Joker and Darth Vader so a lot of the older generation wouldn’t know him. So that leaves Joker and Vader and my guess is Vader is a more iconic villain, the music and the breathing alone are enough to know who he is, I don’t even like Star Wars or follow it and I know of his existence
@ProfessorDarwin oh there are most certainly evil evil people out there- but I don’t believe anyone is pure evil just like I don’t believe anyone is purely good and innocent either, human beings a way more complex then fictional characters to label that easily.
This is too hard to say really as we can’t read their minds, I mean on the surface someone like Ted Bundy is pure evil but then again we only know about their heinous crimes and not about other aspects of their life as it’s not heavily reported, I just think there must be some ounce of good in even the most evil people..I hope that makes sense!
I mean Umbridge is no ones favourite but in a way doesn’t that make her the best villain? Villains are supposed to be hated and she is definitely hated by everyone, very effective well written character imo