Arcturus Mengsk from StarCraft killed the ruling families of the Confederacy only to take their place.
I haven't watched the film, but from what I have heard, Dr. Alan Grant from American Mary.
He is a prolific serial rapist who gets horrifically tortured by one of the women he has raped named Mary. His teeth are filed, his tongue is split, his mouth is sewn shut, both his arms and legs are cut off, the word "LIAR" is carved on his forehead and it's implied he was also castrated because Mary mentions she has performed "genital modification" on him. She also hangs him on meat hooks that pierce through the skin of his back and she keeps him suspended like that for days in an abandoned building.
Pretty cool and underrated. She has an entertaining and charming personality and I like how she constantly shifts from one location to the other. I also like how she got away with everything by the end and wasn't punished in any way even though her plan was stopped which is not something you often see with villains coming from kids movies.
I genuinely think that she deserves far more recognition than she gets.
For instance, Scroop's actions in Treasure Planet are not John Silver's fault, at all, but that's because it is shown that Silver disapproves of everything Scroop is doing and he doesn't encourage Scroop's murderous behaviour in any way and Silver even threatens Scroop after he nearly kills Jim and after he kills Mr. Arrow.
It depends on how much independence their minion has from them and if they encourage or not that type of behaviour from their minions.
I think that if Orion just allowed D-16 to kill Sentinel without interfering, he would have calmed down afterwards and even if he still had the idea to kill all of Sentinel's followers, it would have been easier for Orion to talk him out of it.
However, when Orien interfered and denied D-16 the chance to kill Sentinel, D-16 felt betrayed by his friend on some level which contributed to his wrathful decision to kill all of Sentinel's followers and not listening to Orion.
I don't watch Hunter x Hunter, so no.
I was mostly referring to Hartmann from Monster and Kraznys mo Nakroz from Game of Thrones/A Song of Ice and Fire.
Yes, especially if the abuse is specifically designed to turn them into killers. There is just something pretty depraved about this whole concept.
I voted usually, since when a villain goes against a character who is both a Pure Evil and a Hate Sink at the same time, it usually prompts the audience to root for them even if the villain is also not a good guy.
However, there are a few exceptions and one of them is Craster and Karl Tanner's conflict in Game of Thrones. Both of these characters are PEs and both are Hate Sinks but neither comes across as more sympathetic than the other since they don't oppose each other for moralistic reasons, but because they are both selfish assholes who want to rape the women and Craster's keep and take control of it.
However, usually when a villain who is not a PE or a Hate Sink goes against a villain who is both of these things, it does make them more likeable and even makes the audience root for them.
Good examples of this are Clyde Shelton vs Clarence Darby in Law Abiding Citizen and D-16 vs Sentinel Prime in Transformers One.
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You can ask ChatGPT for help. I recently wanted to find the title of a movie that I have watched years ago, but I couldn't remember how it was called. I described what it's about to ChatGPT and it gave me the title and after I checked on the Internet, it turned out that ChatGPT was correct in its assumption.
I would say he does start out as one since he was manipulated to turn to the Dark Side to save his wife and unborn children under the false belief they would die if he doesn't join the Dark Side, but then he very quickly reveals his ambitions to overthrow Emperor Palpatine and rule the galaxy himself which shows Anakin is not motivated just by a desire to save his family. And after Padme dies, he no longer has the excuse that he is doing it to save his family and he is not portrayed very sympathetically in the original trilogy (except for the final moments where he redeems himself) or in the other works where he appears as Darth Vader and instead he is mostly portrayed as a terrifying menace.
So I don't think he is an Anti-Villain since he not only doesn't have noble intentions as Darth Vader, but he is not even portrayed very sympathetically most of the time when he is Darth Vader (an Anti-Villain needs to be portrayed consistently with sympathy during their time as a villain, not just during their backstory before they become a villain and during the last moments of their lives where they redeem themselves) and he doesn't display a lot of redeeming qualities during that time either (at least in the films).
BTW, I asked ChatGPT what it thinks and this is its response:
"The showdown between the Undead Scourge from Warcraft and the Fire Nation from Avatar: The Last Airbender is a fascinating clash of two powerful factions with very different abilities, tactics, and objectives. To analyze who would win, let’s break it down across several factors: military strength, leadership, tactics, adaptability, and environmental impact.
1. Military Strength
The Undead Scourge
The Undead Scourge is a near-endless force of undead creatures with various powerful units:
Necromancers and Death Knights: Skilled in raising the dead and wielding dark magic, they constantly expand the Scourge’s numbers by reanimating their fallen enemies.
Abominations, Ghouls, and Crypt Fiends: These are brutal melee units and monsters that excel in sowing fear and confusion among enemies.
Frostwyrms and Banshees: Frostwyrms are massive undead dragons with icy breath attacks, while Banshees have abilities like possession, which can turn enemies into Scourge allies.
The Plague: The Scourge has access to the Plague of Undeath, a supernatural disease that kills and reanimates the dead as Scourge zombies.
The Scourge’s military power grows exponentially the longer a conflict lasts, as they convert the fallen into soldiers. Furthermore, undead units do not tire, need food, or rely on morale, making them highly effective in attritional warfare.
The Fire Nation
The Fire Nation, while human, is disciplined and technologically advanced, relying on both benders and mechanical war machines.
Firebenders: The backbone of the Fire Nation’s forces, with the ability to produce and control fire. Many skilled Firebenders can create and throw fire, use lightning generation, and some even develop techniques to resist intense cold. Notably, they are reliant on proximity to the sun for maximum strength, but have also developed techniques to conserve energy and make efficient use of fire.
War Machines: Tanks, airships, and ironclad ships give the Fire Nation an edge in terms of mobility and long-range attack. Their technology allows for strategic bombardment, though this is mainly effective in open warfare rather than against an endless force like the Scourge.
Agni Kai Warriors and Special Forces: Firebending elites, such as Azula and Iroh, wield blue fire or lightning, enhancing their tactical capabilities against single powerful undead units or Frostwyrms.
Population and Bending Reserves: The Fire Nation has a finite population, which can serve as a weakness against the Scourge’s ability to endlessly reanimate the dead.
2. Leadership
The Lich King (Arthas)
The Lich King is a formidable strategist and powerful death knight with the capability to manipulate his forces and the enemies’ dead alike. As a master of necromancy, he can directly command the Scourge with his will and add fallen enemies to his ranks. Arthas’ ruthlessness and tactical brilliance would likely favor him in prolonged conflict, using the Scourge’s endless legions and spreading the Plague strategically to maximize fear and chaos.
Fire Lord Ozai
Ozai is a strong leader, powerful Firebender, and a ruthless conqueror. He commands a highly loyal and organized military and could potentially use Sozin’s Comet (assuming the comet’s proximity) to amplify his forces’ power significantly, giving his Firebenders overwhelming destructive power. Ozai, however, is mortal and reliant on a limited number of skilled benders and soldiers, making his position vulnerable over an extended campaign against a foe that grows stronger with each kill.
3. Tactics and Strategy
The Scourge
The Scourge employs attritional and terror tactics, aiming to overwhelm enemies by wearing them down and turning their fallen against them. They would likely employ the Plague of Undeath within Fire Nation cities and settlements, creating panic and expanding their ranks. The Scourge’s use of Frostwyrms could counter the Fire Nation’s airships, and Banshees could possess key individuals within the Fire Nation, creating internal chaos.
The Fire Nation
The Fire Nation is highly organized and capable of strategic maneuvers, using their benders and machines to maintain strongholds and launch focused attacks. They could leverage fire’s purifying qualities to burn any infected areas and prevent the spread of the Plague. Firebending elites might be able to strike at high-value targets like necromancers and death knights, attempting to disrupt the Scourge’s ability to reanimate soldiers.
4. Adaptability and Environmental Impact
The Fire Nation’s reliance on firebending could be both an advantage and a liability. Fire is an effective weapon against undead flesh, and bending allows them to defend strategically important areas by purging infection zones with fire. However, this reliance on bending could pose a challenge when facing a Plague that spreads continuously, as well as undead creatures that may not fall easily to traditional fire attacks.
The Scourge, on the other hand, is highly adaptable to any environment. They can spread corruption, decay, and frost, turning an area into a wasteland. They are resilient to fire and do not suffer from morale or supply shortages. If the Scourge could turn an area into a corrupted domain, it would weaken the Fire Nation’s morale and limit the Firebenders’ effectiveness by stripping them of natural resources.
5. Key Scenarios and Likely Outcomes
Scenario 1: Prolonged War of Attrition
In a drawn-out war, the Undead Scourge would likely gain the upper hand. Their ability to turn Fire Nation casualties into more undead troops would wear down the Fire Nation’s defenses over time. While the Fire Nation might hold key locations, the Scourge’s persistence would gradually erode their ability to defend. Eventually, the Scourge could overwhelm the Fire Nation through sheer numbers, persistence, and the spread of the Plague.
Scenario 2: Blitz Attack with Sozin’s Comet
If the Fire Nation’s forces were to leverage Sozin’s Comet at the onset of the conflict, they could temporarily gain a significant advantage, using the comet’s power to launch a highly aggressive offensive. Under this influence, Firebenders could devastate large groups of undead, destroy critical Scourge leaders, and potentially reduce the undead’s momentum. However, the comet's effects would be temporary, and as the Scourge recovers, they could quickly exploit any weakening or overextended Fire Nation forces.
Scenario 3: Targeting the Lich King
The Fire Nation could attempt a risky strategy targeting Arthas directly, hoping that removing him would cripple the Scourge. This would require the best Fire Nation warriors and likely assistance from unique bending abilities (such as Azula’s lightning or an elite force targeting necromancers). However, given the Lich King’s power, this approach would be high-stakes and very risky, with failure likely leading to quick Scourge retaliation and expansion.
Conclusion: Likely Winner
Overall, the Undead Scourge is likely to win in a prolonged engagement. Their unlimited manpower, ability to turn enemy casualties into allies, and lack of reliance on human needs make them ideally suited to wear down a faction like the Fire Nation, which depends on a finite number of benders and mortal soldiers. The Fire Nation’s best chance at success would be a concentrated, high-impact offensive during Sozin’s Comet or a direct strike against the Lich King himself—though these tactics would be challenging and fraught with high risk.
The Scourge’s inevitable and relentless nature would probably ultimately overwhelm the Fire Nation, especially as attrition sets in and the Plague weakens morale and spreads through its ranks."
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I really doubt Ozai is a ripoff of Balon Greyjoy considering at that point in time Game of Thrones didn't even exist and the A Song of Ice and Fire novel series wasn't that popular back then as it only gained mainstream popularity after the TV series, so I doubt the people behind Avatar had even heard about Balon at the time they made the show.
I was thinking about him and I honestly think he should have a page on Villains Wiki for his actions in the first movie.
He was trying to help Soto murder the human baby and was trying to personally deliver the human baby to him and he even attacked the baby's mother while she was trying to save her son which indirectly led to her death.
Then, he spends almost the whole film manipulating Manny and Sid into thinking that he is leading them to the humans, so they can return the baby to his father, but in truth he was bringing them to an ambush organised by Soto and the rest of his fellow Smilodons, so they can eat Sid, Manny and the human baby. He even informed his fellow pack members about the arriving Manny, so they can prepare and eat him.
While he does redeem himself by the end of the film and helps his new friends and then he becomes a permanent protagonist for the next Ice Age films, I do think he was somewhat treated as a villain in the first one and should have a page here.
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The Overmind from StarCraft
Aya from Green Lantern: The Animated Series
Light Hope from She-Ra and the Princesses of Power
SHODAN from System Shock
The last three do have distinctive feminine personalities, but they are still AIs, so they don't have gender.