Or both, like Lelouch?
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Bland but useful in a utilitarian fashion
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Walter White. He has every chance to get out whenever he wants, but he just continued because he was an angry white asshole with an inferiority complex
Flat, but effective.
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I think you have to have specific requirements to be a tragic villain. Diavolo is Pure Evil and cannot be such.
Hydrogen Bomb VS Coughing Baby
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The perception of Superman as inherently fascist is a misreading of the entire character.
Or both, like Lelouch?
Dolores Umbridge would not rape my kids or turn them into a dog or kill them so her.
For Johan, he gets away with things that seem pretty silly or unrealistic in broad daylight (Like that scene with the kids or the police man he gave the beer to) simply to establish him as more menacing. The fact that nobody considers running the diagnostics that would make him get away with shit less easily is suspicious. I understand that Germany in the 80's and 90's did not have the security systems and various mechanisms we had today, but how he actually gets away with all this shit isn't explained nearly as much, and the narrative seems indecisive as to whether he's just a very evil person or an actual antichrist figure with supernatural powers.
In hindsight, Griffith's plot armor is narratively justified by being a literal god and the whole causality business which is why I voted for him. My current criticism would be that he seems completely emotionless as opposed to the wacky borderline Laughably Evil character he was when he was still human, which is deliberately supposed to be the point since he specifically made himself unable to feel them so he could be bogged down, but I would be dissapointed if he's actually emotionless and not just lying to himself since that doesn't seem to be true for any of the apostles that say that's the case such as the Count. Not that he would or should stop being Pure Evil (Though I can see him ending up NPE or IH by the end of the story, definitely no redemption though), just still a person with feelings and irrationality as opposed to the completely detached god he wants to be. I feel this kind of narratively has to be the turn out, since him raping Casca was out of envy and dejection and is the action of a very human and psychotic person instead of a completely impartial being outside of humanity. Apostles are people that succumbed to emotional weakness, they just look like demons. I would want the Godhand to be the same. Since his arc is still ongoing I can't say the definitive narrative direction though.
That's difficult to say. The only criticism I can make of both of them narratively is that they seem to have too much plot armour.
Kiff is not a villain, he's just ramshackled with one
Most narratives that portray people who are obvious villains as heroes are morally bankrupt.
Lots of nazi books like the Turner Diaries, and also fucking Redo of Healer jesus christ fuck that show