@Batman129 Thank you for having the balls to shine a light on this in a public discussion thread. I (and two other users) have tried settling this matter on message walls and in private by pointing out how obviously guilty, manipulative, and predatory X9 is, only for us to be accused of being transphobes conspiring to ruin X9’s life (even though none of us three made any effort to impede X9’s real life; we just wanted her off this wiki) for no reason, eventually culminating in them trying to convince admins to block us.
I was frankly too exhausted to continue after repeatedly pointing out X9’s wildly inconsistent defenses (from “I was blackmailed into grooming a minor” to “you’re all harassing me because I’m trans” to “well actually what I did is perfectly okay and not grooming at all”), so I sincerely thank you for exposing this to the wider community.
Here’s my arguments with X9. The final screenshot is me getting fed up with her constant lying and pointing out how many times her story has changed:
M. Bison
The above user is right. Nabbit is neutral because performs both heroic and villainous deeds depending on the game. Sometimes he’s robbing Toads and causing mischief, while other times he’s helping Mario and Luigi rescue people for no apparent reason. He’s practically the definition of an “On & Off” character.
What keeps Bill from being tragic is that he intentionally stifles any feelings of remorse, refuses to take accountability for actions, and doubles down on his villainy anytime someone tries to appeal to his better nature. He’s just so monumentally selfish and incapable of change that it completely negates his tragedy.
Ima just point that he’s never actually hurt Ryan (aside from that time he pushed him off the roof waaaaay back in season 2 when trying to get him to fly lol). He also carried him away when he noticed he was freaking out because of his super hearing, and teamed up with Butcher— his sworn enemy— when Soldier Boy put Ryan in danger. There’s also that bit when he talks to himself in the mirror, and his conscience keeps trying to remind him that he cares about Ryan.
Basically, while Homelander does see Ryan as an extension of himself, he also does care about him beyond that.
He didn’t care about Stormfront, he just loved how much she stroked his ego. Even when she died, his only response was, “But it’s my birthday…” which shows just how self-centered he is.
Even if he ends up turning against Ryan, Homelander’s backstory is way too tragic for him to qualify as PE. Regardless of how far he falls off the deep end, everything he does can be traced back to him being abused, tortured, experimented on, and psychologically programmed during his childhood. Mind you, that doesn’t excuse anything he does, but it sure as hell contextualizes his wanton cruelty.
Definitely one of the MCU’s worst.
No. Wait until season 5, otherwise we might have to do the whole propose-and-remove thing all over again.
@LlamaReactionStudios “My mom and dad are gonna be so mad at me!🥺😢😭”
You should post it on the Villains Fanon Wiki. It’s a whole site specifically for users who wanna create and share their OC villains 🤞🏽
I don’t know anything about the categories, but I do remember @B1bl1kal . Basically, he was blocked for harassing other users, provoking trolls, and generally treating his position as a mod/admin like a weird role-playing game rather than taking it seriously (it’s okay to have fun, but not if it comes at the expense of other users and promotes hostility in the community).
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Gotta choose the bottom option. He deserves a long prison sentence, but he also needs therapy and rehabilitation, because he is addicted to drugs and suffered an abusive childhood, both of which likely screwed up his brain and shaped him into the pedophilic dealer that John Doe found. In that sense, I don’t think he was completely beyond help, had the justice system not treated his case so carelessly.
On top of that, the way in which he was killed was so objectively horrifying that I can’t help but feel bad for him, especially since if he’d gotten actual help at some point, he may not have ended up in that situation to begin with. Nobody except the absolute worst of humanity deserves a fate like that (hell, I know people who are worse than Allen)… and John Doe himself happens to be among the worst. That bullet to the brain was far too good for him.
The Lich, because at least it actually makes sense whenever he comes back.
I’m just gonna wait until we get full context in season 5. As for right now, Brenner is still by far my favorite Stranger Things villain.
I’m kinda enjoying all of the chaos this is causing. I haven’t been this invested in Stranger Things or this wiki as a whole in quite a while (the closest being the page for the new incarnation of Ganondorf earlier this year).
@MarioD0607 Henry’s exact connection to the Mind Flayer has always been vague, so it’s entirely possible this was their intention all along. Or maybe not. Who cares, really?
For anyone curious about its continuity, here’s Netflix themselves confirming that it’s canon:
https://www.netflix.com/tudum/articles/stranger-things-play-london-2023
Also, the play takes place in 1959; aka the same year that Henry turned 12, killed his family, and got abducted by Brenner. He’s not in high school, but Joyce and Hopper are during the play.
It’s a prequel co-written by the Duffer Bros. themselves, so… yeah, it’s canon.