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I would say that it is a toss-up for these two if you know their crimes, but I voted for Tywin because he is not considered to be a well-intentioned extremist like Snow is, although the latter's crimes are still pretty vile to the point where I would not mind if he was ranked higher on the evil scale.
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What exactly is concerning about it? To be clear, I’m not condoning the actions of a lot of these characters including some of Walter’s, I’m asking more along the lines of which character is the most well-written or likable (although I feel I must emphasize that “likable” does not equal “good”)
And I wouldn’t really be surprised he got the majority of votes since most people in the community are more familiar with Breaking Bad compared to the other works.
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I think Odin from God of War would be an interesting one. I liked how he differed from Zeus and other notable tyrants in that he was more focused on obtaining knowledge to control his fate rather than building up his wealth or power as seen with this quote down below when he is talking to Atreus:
"Everyone's got me all wrong. You think war drives me? Or power? Wealth? Naw. Never have. Know what drives me? What I really want? I want answers..same as you. See, mortals have it easy. When the push up against life's big questions, they can look to us to give them meaning. Divine comfort. We both know that's a sham. But when we have questions? Why are we here? To give meaning to mortals while living without it ourselves? No. We're more than that. And I found something that proves it."
I'd also like to see analyses on Bill Cipher, Vladimir Makarov, Kilgrave, Dolores Umbridge, Petyr Baelish and Eren Yeager just to name a few.
To be quite honest with you guys, I think Frank is smarter. While Walter has proven himself to be a genius when it comes to chemistry, engineering, mathematics, and planning, there are still quite a bit of times even at his most Machiavellian where he makes quite a bit of rash decisions, such as killing Mike, cluing Hank that the real Heisenberg was still out there, leaving the Leaves of Grass book from Gale at his house which led Hank to discover he was Heisenberg, and calling Jack to come help during the Tohajiilee episode even though that would lead to the deaths of Hank and Steve Gomez along with everyone finding out he was founder of the largest methamphetamine operation in U.S. history. I also don't think he would do particularly well in the realm of politics given that he would be dealing with much smarter adversaries compared to those in the drug business. On the other hand, Frank has demonstrated himself to be much more calculating and pragmatic, as he does not make a ton of decisions in the story that end up being incredibly detrimental towards him for the long term. Yes, there were times he was outsmarted by others in the series, but those were minor victories on their part and Frank was always able to bounce back and defeat them. Another thing worth mentioning is that Raymond Tusk mentions to Frank that the latter is incredibly effective at what he sets his mind towards and I'm pretty sure if Frank had ever gotten involved in the meth business like Walt, chances are he would have been even more ruthless and pragmatic than he was, possibly even beating him if they were to ever encounter in a hypothetical scenario. However, if anyone disagrees, you are welcome to change my mind.
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@Yoshikage1234
It means morally ambiguous. As stated on the Grey Zone category page ""The main characteristic of a person or group in the "Grey Zone" is that some will consider them dangerous, criminal or "evil" while others may see them as good, scapegoats, or fighting for the right thing (even if their methods are wrong)." In other words, the character was designed so that the audience can have a choice of whether or not they want to support their actions. Personally, I do not see Jason being a morally ambiguous character even though he is tragic and has understandable reasons for doing what he does. Rather, the writing of Stranger Things Season 4 seems to be making the point that his actions are wrong and we (the audience) should not support them. These include exacerbating the Satanic panic, attempting to kill Lucas even after he told him everything, and crushing Max's walkman which prevents Lucas from using the music to wake her up, ultimately resulting in her getting temporarily killed by Vecna. While you could say that he may not have necessarily intended to crush her walkman, his previous actions still led to that happening and him attempting to kill Lucas along with the latter saying in their final fight "I thought I wanted to be like you. Popular. Normal. But it turns out that "normal" is just a raging psychopath" are meant to highlight that Jason is still a villain that we are supposed to root against, even if he is a sympathetic character.
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