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{{Quote|Eh, good, evil - both fine choices. Whatever floats your boat.|[[Bender Bending Rodríguez]] on morality.}}
 
{{Quote|Eh, good, evil - both fine choices. Whatever floats your boat.|[[Bender Bending Rodríguez]] on morality.}}
 
{{Quote|I can do no wrong, for I do not know what it is.|[[Satan (The Adventures of Mark Twain)|Satan]] in ''The Adventures of Mark Twain''.}}
 
{{Quote|I can do no wrong, for I do not know what it is.|[[Satan (The Adventures of Mark Twain)|Satan]] in ''The Adventures of Mark Twain''.}}
The '''Immoral''' or '''Amoral''' are unable to be truly judged by concepts of right and wrong or happen to lack moral senses. Some are known to have Moral Agency issues but all belong in this category.
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{{Quote|Listen up, Amanogawa. I don’t care about your justice, and I have no interest in arguing with you about what’s right and wrong. |[[Hajime Nagumo]] to Kouki Amanogawa of his delusional justice}}
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The '''Amoral''' are unable to be judged by concepts of right and wrong or happen to lack moral senses. Some are known to have Moral Agency issues but all belong here.
   
Most abstract characters such as '''[[:Category:Deities|Deities]]''' fall under this. However, on a terrestrial scale examples of '''Amoral Villains''' would be:
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Abstract characters such as [[:Category:Deities|Deities]] fall under this. However, on a terrestrial scale examples of Amoral villains would be:
 
*'''[[:Category:Artificial Intelligence|Artificial Intelligences]]''' (e.g. [[AUTO]]) unlike those with free will (e.g. [[Skynet]]).
 
*'''[[:Category:Artificial Intelligence|Artificial Intelligences]]''' (e.g. [[AUTO]]) unlike those with free will (e.g. [[Skynet]]).
*'''[[:Category:Predator|Predators]]''' guided by instinct (e.g. [[Sabor (Disney)|Sabor]]) unlike those who [[:Category:Sadists|find joy]] in torturing prey before killing and eating them (e.g. [[The Beldam]], [[Pennywise]]).
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*'''[[:Category:Predator|Predators]]''' guided by instinct (e.g. [[Sabor (Disney)|Sabor]]) unlike those who [[:Category:Sadists|find joy]] in torturing prey (e.g. [[Pennywise]]).
*'''[[:Category:Dimwits|Dimwits]]''' whose stupidities get out of hand and cause disasters (e.g. [[Beavis and Butt-head]]) unlike those who can mostly control themselves (e.g. [[Joffrey Baratheon]], [[Peter Griffin]]).
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*'''[[:Category:Dimwits|Dimwits]]''' whose stupidities get out of hand and cause disasters (e.g. [[Beavis and Butt-head]]) unlike those who can mostly control themselves (e.g. [[Toplofty and O'Bloat]]).
*'''[[:Category:Demon|Demons]]''', '''[[:Category:Dark Forms|Dark Forms]]''' and similar forces who only know how to be evil and do not understand good and bad (e.g. [[The Black Mass]]) unless it is made clear they have Moral Agencies (e.g. [[Bill Cipher]]).
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*'''[[:Category:Demon|Demons]]''', '''[[:Category:Dark Forms|Dark Forms]]''' and similar forces who only know evil (e.g. [[The Black Mass]]) unless it is made clear they have Moral Agencies (e.g. [[Bill Cipher]]).
*'''[[:Category:Lovecraftian Horrors|Lovecraftian Horrors]]''' are known to be Amoral at least on human-level comprehension (e.g. [[Azathoth]]) unless they have human moral agencies (e.g. [[Nyarlathotep]]).
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*'''[[:Category:Lovecraftian Horrors|Lovecraftian Horrors]]''' are Amoral at least by human standards (e.g. [[Azathoth]]) unless they have such Moral Agencies (e.g. [[Nyarlathotep]]).
*'''[[:Category:Kids|Kids]]''', '''[[:Category:Teenagers|Teenagers]]''' and other '''[[:Category:Juvenile Delinquents|Juvenile Delinquents]]''' who are unaware due to their age or who/what they are hurting (e.g. [[Sid Phillips]]) except for when they enjoy themselves (e.g. [[Henry Evans]], [[Eric Cartman]]).
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*'''[[:Category:Kids|Kids]]''', '''[[:Category:Teenagers|Teenagers]]''' and other '''[[:Category:Juvenile Delinquents|Juvenile Delinquents]]''' due to their ages or being unaware of who/what they are hurting (e.g. [[Sid Phillips]]) except for when they enjoy themselves (e.g. [[Henry Evans]]). People who harass others for fun don't count if they clearly enjoy causing others suffering.
*Individuals who do not conform to archetypes of good or bad (e.g. [[Deadpool]]) and do not wish to be evil. Such characters can fall under '''[[:Category:Chaotic Neutral|Chaotic Neutrals]]'''.
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*'''[[:Category:Mentally Ill|Mentally Ill]]''', '''[[:Category:Psychotic|Psychotic]]''' and/or '''[[:Category:Dissociative|Dissociative]]''' villains who are not in control of their own actions (e.g. [[SCP-096]]) unlike those who are fully aware of what they are doing and their limited views on reality does not justify their actions (e.g. [[Norman Osborn (Marvel)|Norman Osborn]]).
*Most '''[[:Category:Villains by Proxy|Villains by Proxy]]''' who did not choose to become evil in the first place (e.g. [[The Batman Who Laughs]], [[Spinel]]).
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*Individuals not conforming to archetypes of good or bad (e.g. [[Deadpool]]) and not wishing to be evil. Such characters fall under '''[[:Category:Chaotic Neutral|Chaotic Neutrals]]'''. Some might even do more good things than bad things.
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*'''[[:Category:Villains by Proxy|Villains by Proxy]]''' who did not choose evil in the first place (e.g. [[Spinel]]). However, these don't count if they have some motive for committing crimes that doesn't make them unwilling.
   
'''[[:Category:Pure Evil|Pure Evils]] can NEVER qualify. While they may be unconcerned with right and wrong they are aware of what is but always chooses to do wrong.'''
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'''[[:Category:Pure Evil|Pure Evil]] villains CAN ''NEVER'' qualify. While they may be unconcerned with right and wrong they are aware of what is but always choose to do wrong. Furthermore, some villains can still count as [[:Category:Pure Evil|Pure Evil]] if they merely don't understand why people feel disgusted with their crimes as those typically taunt characters for their morals.'''
   
Pure Evils understand morality and usually take pleasure in what they do; if they don't believe in morality they should go under '''[[:Category:Delusional|Delusional]]''' or '''[[:Category:Nihilists|Nihilists]]''' instead.
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Pure Evils understand morality and take pleasure in what they do; if they don't believe in morality they should go under [[:Category:Delusional|Delusional]] or [[:Category:Nihilists|Nihilists]] instead.
   
 
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Eh, good, evil - both fine choices. Whatever floats your boat.
~ Bender Bending Rodríguez on morality.
I can do no wrong, for I do not know what it is.
~ Satan in The Adventures of Mark Twain.
Listen up, Amanogawa. I don’t care about your justice, and I have no interest in arguing with you about what’s right and wrong.
~ Hajime Nagumo to Kouki Amanogawa of his delusional justice

The Amoral are unable to be judged by concepts of right and wrong or happen to lack moral senses. Some are known to have Moral Agency issues but all belong here.

Abstract characters such as Deities fall under this. However, on a terrestrial scale examples of Amoral villains would be:

Pure Evil villains CAN NEVER qualify. While they may be unconcerned with right and wrong they are aware of what is but always choose to do wrong. Furthermore, some villains can still count as Pure Evil if they merely don't understand why people feel disgusted with their crimes as those typically taunt characters for their morals.

Pure Evils understand morality and take pleasure in what they do; if they don't believe in morality they should go under Delusional or Nihilists instead.

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