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| “ | Hey, little guy, why the long face? | „ |
| ~ Herbert's famous catchphrase. |
| “ | Get your fat a** back here. | „ |
| ~ Herbert getting inappropriate with Chris Griffin. |
John Herbert Forge, also known as Herbert "The Forge Pervert", is a major antagonist in Family Guy. He is an elderly pedophile who lives down the street from the Griffin family and has an unhealthy obsession with Chris Griffin.
He is voiced by Mike Henry, who also voiced the Great White Shark in the same series, as well as Oliver Wilkerson in The Cleveland Show.
Biography[]
Background[]
Not much is ever revealed about Herbert's life before the start of events in the Family Guy series. In "German Guy," Herbert discloses that he is a retired military veteran from World War II who served in the Army Air Corps. He was captured by the Germans and sent to a concentration camp run by Franz Schlechtnacht, because the soldiers thought he was gay due to pictures of young boys he had in his wallet.
Family Guy[]
He first appears in the episode "To Love and Die in Dixie." He meets Chris for the first time when Chris takes up a paper route. He tries to get Chris to go into his house by offering him "Popsicles," but Chris refuses. At the end of the episode, Herbert leaves 113 messages on the Griffins' answering machine in which he wonders where Chris has been.
In "The Perfect Castaway," Herbert purchases an ice cream truck from Brian Griffin, which he uses in "And Then There Were Fewer."
Chris accidentally breaks Herbert's window in "The Courtship of Stewie's Father" with a baseball and Herbert convinces Peter Griffin to have Chris do chores for him. In this episode, he has a fantasy of being Chris' wife.
In "Play It Again, Brian", Herbert is asked to babysit Chris, Meg, and Stewie. He attempts to seduce Chris several times, including trying to get him to help Herbert bathe. Meg ended up helping Herbert instead. After reading Peter and The Wolf to Chris and changing the moral to fit his own ends, Chris asks Herbert if he's a pedophile. Herbert's answer is not shown.
In the trilogy of episodes parodying the original Star Wars trilogy, Herbert stands in for Obi-Wan Kenobi.
In "German Guy," Chris starts hanging out with a different old man, who is revealed by Herbert to be a Nazi named Franz Gutentag. Herbert fights and defeats him to save Chris and Peter.
Appearance[]
Herbert is a wrinkly, old creepy man with a weirdly shaped head. His head is bald and only has gray hair on the sides, with a few inconsistent strands coming out from the scalp. He has three old man circles in his scalp, just above some eyebrow wrinkles above his eyes. His eyebrows are gray and bushy and his nose is droopy. He has crooked, inconsistent teeth scattered about his big mouth and he has a slightly butt-shaped chin. His neck is very flabby and has a bunch of loose skin rolls on it. He wears a light blue bath robe with a white undershirt and white pants. He also walks with a gray walker. He has a very soft, high-pitched voice that whistles whenever he makes the "S" sound.
Personality[]
A creepy, twisted predator whose name rhymes with pervert for a reason, Herbert is a sexual predator who methodically stalks pre-teen and teenage boys. He has a funny, cheerful, and relaxed personality despite this, causing him to initially appear as a harmless and friendly individual. He seldom shows much emotion outside of calm cheerfulness, and he rarely raises his voice to anything higher than a light, airy whisper. His voice is eerily angelic in contrast to his goblin-like appearance, and he is an amazing singer.
While Herbert is not completely evil, he is still a pedophile who constantly tries to chase down and seduce Chris as well as other boys in Family Guy. He uses a variety of methods to try and catch boys and be around them, such as luring them to his cellar with popsicles, purchasing an ice cream truck in order to sell ice cream to boys, or drugging them with things like Nyquil and Tylenol PM. On top of this, almost everyone in Quahog is woefully oblivious to Herbert's true intentions, which allows him to stalk boys seemingly with impunity, although his schemes oftentimes fail due to his old age and frailty. Though Herbert is attracted to boys only, and as such is a gay pedophile, he seems to be against homosexual rights, such as calling Brian Griffin a sick pervert for trying to get him to sign a petition supporting gay marriage. Of all boys, Herbert is most fixated on Chris Griffin.
In "The Courtship of Stewie Griffin's Father," Herbert daydreams of being a woman married to Chris and that they have a son that looks like Chris and a daughter that looks like Herbert. Considering this along with Herbert's highly feminine voice, habit of singing female love songs, his fantasy of being Chris' wife, and dressing like the Virgin Mary at his Christmas party on The Cleveland Show, it is possible that Herbert has gender identity issues and desires to be female. If he sees his true identity as female, then he may not see his desires for boys as homosexual, which could explain how he disapproves of homosexuality despite wanting to have sexual relations with boys. However, it is also entirely possible he is adverse to voting gay rights due to homophobic people lumping homosexuals with pedophiles, and he would fear supporting the cause would arouse suspicion.
Despite his predatory behavior and the criminality of his actions, it is shown that Herbert has the ability to be a kind person who cares about others. An example is when he tries to convince Chris to stop hanging out with Franz Gutentag after discovering that the old man was the sadistic Nazi who imprisoned him in World War II. He seems to be genuinely concerned for Chris' wellbeing and even goes to try and warn Peter and Lois that their son is in danger. After discovering that Chris and Peter are being held captive in Franz's basement, he fights the Nazi in order to rescue them both. He even tries to save Franz from falling off his porch, despite their tumultuous history.
Gallery[]
Quotes[]
| “ | Herbert being a hypocrite, calling Chris a pervert. | „ |
Trivia[]
- Herbert is shown to be a Roman Catholic, and he attends the same church as the Griffins.
- He has a dog named Jesse, who is noted to look as old and decrepit as he does. Jesse is shown to be paralyzed from the waist down.
- Herbert also has a grand-niece called Sandy, who dates Chris in "Valentine's Day in Quahog."
- Originally, Herbert was going to be a creepy bus driver that Chris was afraid to go near.
- According to Seth MacFarlane, the idea for Herbert was created when Mike Henry would use his voice to scold the writers when they had trouble coming up with new ideas.
- Furthermore, Henry was also inspired by a senior citizen that he used to work with.
- Only Brian, Stewie, and Meg are aware that Herbert is a pedophile.
- In "Play It Again, Brian," when Herbert whistles close to Chris' face hoping for a kiss, Chris outright asks Herbert if he's a pedophile.
- Ironically, while Taylor Swift and other adult and older women in the series dated Chris Griffin romantically and sexually, despite the latter being just a barely pubescent boy, Herbert is the one negatively depicted as a clear pedophile.
External Links[]
- Herbert on the Family Guy Wiki
- Herbert the Pervert on the Wikipedia
