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| “ | This is the Power of "Yes"! | „ |
| ~ John's famous catchphrase. |
John Seed is one of the three secondary antagonists (alongside Jacob and Faith Seed) of the 2018 video game Far Cry 5, and the secondary antagonist of the Far Cry 6 DLC, Joseph: Collapse.
The youngest brother, John is in charge of the recruitment of the new members of the Project at Eden's Gate, and his belief in the "Power of Yes" controls his methods of forcing sinners to confess and atone before they welcomed into the ranks of Eden's Gate and saved from The Collapse, something that can only come from as much pain as possible.
He is voiced by Seamus Dever, who also played Trigon in Titans, and played by Rob Evors in Inside Eden's Gate.
Biography[]
Past[]
| “ | John was not born a monster. He was just a child when our family was torn apart. He was loving. Kind. Full of joy... He was easily preyed upon. | „ |
| ~ Joseph talks about John after the latter's death. |
Born to two unnamed parents, John Seed was the younger brother of Joseph and Jacob Seed and the older half-brother of Faith Seed. According to Joseph, John was a very happy child before an unknown event supposedly destroyed the Seed family and his parents abused him after that. One night, they threw him onto the kitchen floor and beat him until all he could say was "yes" - affirming his lifelong motto that individuals who deserve punishment for their sins, which was everyone, should accept it without resistance. He is the most sadistic of the Seed family.
Like his siblings, John was one of the leaders of the Project at Eden's Gate. As the cult believed that the apocalypse is close, John had the role of forcing potential new members to repent their sins, which he did by carving the sins they are guilty of into their flesh. If they atoned for their sins, John cut the carved skin out of the person's body, which served as a sign that they successfully left their sins behind them. He was in charge of forcing members of the Project at Eden's Gate to confess and atone to their sins so they could be pure enough to join their ranks.
Far Cry 5[]
| “ | Welcome to Eden's Gate. | „ |
| ~ John warning the Resistance he will be coming for them. |
When a group of US marshals arrive at Eden's Gate to arrest Joseph Seed, the cult's leader and confront Joseph in the Church of Eden's Gate in Joseph's Compound. John is present when the marshals attempt to arrest Joseph along with his siblings but the cultists intervene, save the Father and leave the law either stranded in Hope County or imprisoned by the cult. John sends a message throughout Hope County, and he explains that everyone is a sinner whose every action is almost another sin but promises salvation with just a simple idea, that say "yes" that you are a sinner, seek redemption for it then confess and atone them. In the message he reveals he has the kidnapped Deputy Hudson and that the cult will be coming for all sinners, leading to the Junior Deputy (one of the few marshals who escaped) to go to war with him.
As the Deputy liberates more of Holland Valley, they are marked by John and kidnapped along with more of the Resistance. Awakening in the middle of The Baptism, the Deputy is being cleansed with many Peggies around them. However, John claims that they are not clean enough and sadistically drowns him further until Joseph intervene by reprimanding his younger brother for using their ways as an excuse for his own proclivities, stating the he shouldn't "mock the cleansing". Joseph subtly threatens that the gates of Eden might be closed for him before leaving the Deputy at John's mercy - who claims he will rip every sin they have ever committed from them until they confess or atone.
After demolishing even more of John's influence over Holland Valley, the Deputy is marked yet again, captured and brought to John's doomsday bunker with a captive Hudson. He enters with torture devices and severed pieces of flesh which he staples to a wall - the sign of atonement which he plans to do to the Deputy and Hudson. As he explains his backstory and how his parents abuse taught him about the "Power of Yes", John readies the Deputy to be branded with his sin and becomes increasingly passionate to the point of screaming his intentions. He then asks who wants to go first between them (though Hudson is gagged in this particular scene so he is only taunting the two deputies).
If the player chooses to say "Yes", then John will be overjoyed that the Deputy has begun to embrace his teachings and moves Hudson out of the room so the Deputy can have their confession in private. If the player refuses to say "Yes", an enraged John will angrily throw a table and choose to start with the Deputy but also removes Hudson from the room. Both options give the Deputy enough time to escape. Attempting to rescue Hudson, the Deputy meets with John again behind a locked blast door who reveals he has finally discovered their sin of "wrath" and indulges them by sending as many angels (Bliss-overdosed cultists who are nearly immune to pain) for them to kill whilst leaving with Hudson, promising they won't meet again until they are ready for atonement as the bunker begins to fill with poisonous gas. Killing the cultists, the Deputy escapes and plans to rescue Hudson yet again by provoking John by liberating most of Holland Valley.
| “ | If Mohammed won't welcome to the mountain, then bring the mountain to Mohammed. Let's begin! | „ |
| ~ John during the Atonement. |
Provoked by the Deputy's resistance, John reclaims Fall's End and kidnaps all of his friends so that they might stand witness to their own atonement. Entering the church, the Deputy is knocked out by a cultist and when they awaken John has finished engraving "wrath" onto their chest and reveals he has kidnapped Pastor Jerome, Nick Rye and Mary May Fairgrave. John beats the Pastor and Mary into submission to following the Atonement, yet Nick refuses - akin Nick's sin which is greed until he whispers something in his ear that makes him comply. When Nick says "yes", John holds him down and removes the skin from his chest that is marked with greed and staples it to the church wall. In this chaos, Jerome was able to swap the Word of Joseph with his own makeshift bible. John preys on the Deputy next and tells them to place their hand on the Word of Joseph and say "Yes". Unknown to John, the Deputy unveils a hidden gun from inside Jerome's bible and grazes John's ear forcing him to retreat back to his ranch.
John retreats to the sky in his own plane in an attempt to flee to safety but the Deputy follows in another plane and they engage in a dogfight. However, John is ultimately shot down and forced to parachute out where he plans to escape to the safety of his bunker to await The Collapse but is instead finally gunned down by the Deputy. Mortally wounded, John is dragged to the entrance to his bunker as he bleeds out. Before dying however, John warns the Deputy to consider that Joseph might be right about the Collapse and that they've already saved people who don't require it from them.
Legacy[]
After John's death, the Deputy took his key and used it to rescue the hostages and destroy John's bunker. Joseph subsequently monologued about how John was not perfect, at some times not even good, but that he was still his brother and that those who are responsible for his death will be punished.
Far Cry 6[]
Joseph: Collapse[]
| “ | You've hurt everyone you claimed to love! | „ |
| ~ John's apparition to Joseph in the opening cinematic. |
John appears in Joseph: Collapse as the secondary antagonist alongside Jacob and Faith, where he is an apparition within Joseph's mind. Alongside his siblings and the Judge, John appears as a mini-boss within missions, and acts as the main boss in his cabin hallucination. The Voice shows Joseph a vision where his siblings survived a nuclear apocalypse, and John is shown to be suffering from his lustful urges towards Faith. Joseph stops him as John states that he needs to cut something (implying that he is thinking of killing Joseph), with Seed lamenting that he could always control his brother, and believes that he would have gotten John under control over time.
Personality[]
| “ | You will confess. Every sin you've ever committed, no matter how petty, no matter how small... I will pull them from you. Then we'll see if you're worthy of atonement. | „ |
| ~ John Seed. |
John was a kind and happy child once before his parents abused him. Despite the trauma and rage it caused him deep into his adult years, John believed that he, like all sinners, deserved his punishment and even held a degree of gratitude for them teaching him "the Power of Yes". John has made it his life mission to bestow that power on himself and others, initially through his own vices until he was taught by Joseph to give the very gift he received from his parents to others through absolution and atonement so they would be worthy to shelter from the Collapse and brought onto Eden.
Even though John may have believed his personal mission in life was to save souls, he was highly sadistic and took a great deal of personal joy in the suffering atonement caused his victims. During the cleansing he cruelly drowned the Deputy further until Joseph reprimanded him for using their sacred traditions for his own proclivities. Joseph indeed admits that he was not perfect and even a monster at times, especially when compared to the rest of the Seed family, but this was only because he was abused by their parents.
Despite his cruelty, John believes Faith is much worse than him due to her abuse of her "angels", insinuating that John treated (or at least believed he did) those he saved very well.
Quotes[]
| “ | We are all sinners. Every one of us. You. Me. Even the Father knows deeply of sin. It's a poison that clouds our minds. What if I told you, you could be free from sin? What if I told you that everything you ever dreamed could come true? What if I told you that everything could be overcome if you embraced an idea: that freedom from sin can come from the power of just one word... yes I am a sinner. Yes I wish to be unburdened. Yes... I must be redeemed. If you're watching this know that you have been selected. You will be cleansed. You will confess your sins, and you will be offered atonement. Don't worry you won't have to do anything... we'll come for you. | „ |
| ~ John Seed's message to Hope County and his first words in-game. |
| “ | So. You've taken my home in the name of your little "resistance". Ah, if those walls could talk... well, more accurately scream... Just know that I will get it back - sooner or later. And when I do, maybe I'll hang your skin as a trophy above the mantle. | „ |
| ~ John Seed after the Deputy took over his ranch. |
| “ | Sin is pervasive. It drives us to do unspeakable acts. I know the feelings that drive you. I know them... intimately. But I can help you, Deputy. I can help wash away these sins. I can Cleanse your soul. It will be difficult, and it will be painful, but... it will be worth it. My people will come for you. They will bring you to me. Don't fight it. Because the harder you fight resist, well... the harder we'll have to scrub you soul. | „ |
| ~ John when marking the Deputy for the first time. |
| “ | Pastor Jerome is selfish. And misguided. And if he were a true man of God, his people wouldn't have left him in the first place. You, Deputy, will still Confess your sins. Because this is the will of The Father. | „ |
| ~ John as he got angrier with the deputy. |
| “ | Deputy... You've had your fun. But all sinners must be Confess. This is the will of The Father. My men are coming for you. I'll see you soon. | „ |
| ~ John when marking the Deputy for the second time. |
| “ | My parents were the first ones to teach me about the Power of Yes. One night, they took me into the kitchen, and they threw me on the ground, and I experienced the pain after pain after pain after... And when I didn't think I could take anymore, I did. Something broke inside. I wasn't scared, I was... clear. I looked up at them and I started to laugh. All I could say was... Yes. I spent my entire life looking for more things to say 'yes' to. I opened up every hole in my body and when those were filled, I created more. But it was Joseph who showed me just how selfish I was being. Always receiving. Always taking. The best gift isn't the one you get, it's the one you give and giving takes courage. The courage... to own your sin. To etch it on to your flesh and carry its burden and when you have endured... when you have truly begun to atone... to cut it out like a cancer and display it for all to see. My god that's courage. I'm going to teach you courage. Teach you how to say Yes, so you can confront your weaknesses. Confront your sin. You swim across an ocean of pain and emerge... free. For only then can you truly begin to atone. | „ |
| ~ John to the Junior Deputy, explaining his backstory and motives. |
| “ | I know your sin. It drives you. Every thought, every action. Your sin is Wrath. So I'll indulge you: become Wrath. Let it fill your body and consume your soul, because in the end, you'll still be empty, and I'll be waiting right here. We both will... | „ |
| ~ John to Junior Deputy after the latter escapes from captivity. |
| “ | Leave this place... gorge yourself on wrath. Because if you don't, if you stay here... I will bleed your little princess like a stuck pig. | „ |
| ~ John taunting the Junior Deputy as they escaped his bunker. |
| “ | I'm going to open you and put your worst fears inside and as you choke, your sins will reveal themselves. only then will you truly understand the Power of Yes. I'll be right back... | „ |
| ~ John to the Junior Deputy, about to torture Deputy Hudson in other room. |
| “ | Your soul is poisoned, diseased, riddled with cancer... and it must be cut out. But you refuse my help. You refuse my help. You refuse to say Yes. So until you do... every pain you inflict on this Prophet will be visited a thousand times on your friends. And I'm not sure how much more Hudson here can endure... Choose your next actions wisely, Deputy. | „ |
| ~ John after he lost most of his control over Holland Valley. |
| “ | When this little rebellion is over... You will rebuild that, you will build it piece by piece until your fingers are worked to the bone... And when you’re done... I’ll bury you underneath it. | „ |
| ~ John if the Deputy destroyed the YES sign. |
| “ | Your actions have consequences, Deputy. I've gathered all your friends here in Fall's End to Atone for your sins. You're welcome to join us. After all, if it weren't for you, they wouldn't be in this predicament... This is your last chance to say Yes, Deputy. Don't be late. | „ |
| ~ John deciding to finally confront the Deputy in Fall's End. |
| “ | Hold still... It's supposed to say 'Wrath'. not 'Rat'. Sin must be exposed so it may be absolved. If we hide our sin, we hide ourselves... You will not hide any longer, your true self will spill out on this floor for all to see. Ahh... Perfect. | „ |
| ~ John as he is tattooing Junior Deputy. |
| “ | Get me to my ranch! Go! Go! Get me to my airstrip! | „ |
| ~ John as he fled from Fall's End after the Deputy turned the tables. |
| “ | John: Nick Rye... Have you already forgotten what I told you-- Nick: F--k you! You're a goddamn demon and we're gonna send you straight back to Hell! You hear me?! You're a dead man! John: My, my, my. How contagious wrath can be. I'll just have to kill you both. |
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| ~ John if the Deputy and Nick Rye confronted him for the airplane fight. |
| “ | The Father gave you a chance for salvation and you threw it away. Look at what you have done. LOOK AT THE WRATH YOU HAVE WROUGHT! You could have helped us build a paradise, a future. Instead, you choose to burn it all down. | „ |
| ~ John's villainous breakdown during the dogfight. |
| “ | Arghh! No! NO! I'm losing control! I have--! down! *coughing* Brothers, sisters. Do not fear. We have prepared for this. The Father has shown us the way. Prepare my bunker. I am coming to join you. We will await The Collapse together... | „ |
| ~ John as his plane was shot down. |
| “ | What if Joseph is right? Did you ever stop to think about that? Everyone thinks he's crazy. but he's not. Look around you, this world is on the brink. You can feel it in your bones, look at the headline, look at who is in charge! (laughs) You want this key because you think you're saving people, but they are already safe. We had a plan. You don't understand, you don't believe, YOU DON'T CARE! | „ |
| ~ John to the Junior Deputy after being mortally wounded. |
| File:John Seed's last words. | “ | May God have mercy on your soul... | „ |
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Trivia[]
- John has the word "sloth" engraved on his chest, implying this was his sin.
- He was named after John the Baptist in the Bible, given his name and being known as "The Baptist".
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Krieger Corporation Alliance for Popular Resistance United Front for Liberation and Labour Hoyt's Privateers Omega Force Royal Army The Golden Path The Disciples Project at Eden's Gate Fuerzas Nacionales de Defensa Shadow Place Others | ||