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*Seed is the only ''Far Cry'' antagonist to survive the events of the game no matter which ending is taken.
 
*Seed is the only ''Far Cry'' antagonist to survive the events of the game no matter which ending is taken.
 
*Despite Seed's role in the game, his voice actor Greg Bryk does not consider him a villain.
 
*Despite Seed's role in the game, his voice actor Greg Bryk does not consider him a villain.
*He is somewhat similar to [[Thanos (Marvel Cinematic Universe)|Thanos]] from the ''Marvel Cinematic Universe'', as both succeed in their goals that cause multiple counts of murder an destruction.
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*He is somewhat similar to [[Thanos (Marvel Cinematic Universe)|Thanos]] from the ''Marvel Cinematic Universe'', as both succeed in their goals that cause multiple counts of murder and destruction.
   
 
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God will not let you take me!
~ Joseph Seed, his famous quote.
After all I've done, and after all we've been through, you've come seeking help from me? You must be truly terrified.
~ Joseph in Far Cry: New Dawn.

Joseph Seed (also known as "The Father") is the main antagonist of Far Cry 5 and the leader of the Project at Eden's Gate - a militaristic doomsday cult that has overtaken rural Hope County in Montana. Believing the end of days is upon the world, Seed believes that he has been chosen by God to save the souls of Hope County (whether they like it or not) and uses torture, kidnapping, intimidation, drugs and violence to achieve his goals. 

Joseph Seed once again appears as an anti-hero in the sequel Far Cry: New Dawn as the leader of a successor group called New Eden, who unlike their predecessors, choose to live in peace and live off the beauty of post-war Hope County. Despite their neutrality, Joseph's New Eden remains locked in a war with the Highwaymen.

He was portrayed by Greg Bryk.

Biography

Background

Did you know that I had a wife? So beautiful, isn't she? We were pregnant with our first child. And we were just babies ourselves really. And I was terrified. On becoming a father. Mostly about money. She wasn't worried. She had faith that things were going to work out. She always had faith…
~ Joseph Seed

Joseph was the second-oldest brother of the Seed family with Jacob being the oldest and John the youngest. According to him, their family was broken apart by reasons unknown which led his parents to abuse John and Jacob to defend the two of them.

At some point in his life, Joseph was married to an unnamed woman who was pregnant with his daughter. After a car accident that ended with her death, Joseph was handed a pink bundle of tubes that was his daughter, presumably supplying oxygen based on his description of her reaction. Claiming this was his test from God, Joseph removed the tubes and killed his own daughter.

Increasing in power and followers through his own religious organization - the Project at Eden's Gate ( the members pejoratively referred to as "Peggies" by locals), Seed claimed dominance of a rural Montana town called Hope County which is run by him and his Heralds - his siblings. Seed's iron-fisted rule sparked the attention of the authorities, none of whom could do anything to stop him as he had informants in the law enforcement and National Guard which made it impossible to arrest him or help the locals. Nevertheless, Hope County sparked a Resistance with the goal of eliminating the Peggies

Any new members of the cult are broken by John whom forces them to confess and atone their sins through torture, then are trained and brainwashed further by Jacob. Resistance is further destroyed by Faith who supplies the inhabitants with "Bliss", a euphoric drug that keeps the user zombie-like and obedient.

Events of Far Cry 5

Joseph Seed - he's not a man to be fucked with.
~ Sheriff Whitehorse to Marshal Burke about Jospeh Seed.

The Junior Deputy, Hudson, Pratt, Sheriff Whitehorse and Marshal Burke all enter Hope County with a warrant for Joseph Seed's arrest. Upon landing they are met with hundreds of well-armed cultists.

They enter a church where a shirtless Seed is in the middle of a passionate sermon where he forewarns his followers of the oncoming "Collapse". He stops, however, when he realises the police with the intent to arrest him. Despite the hostility of his followers who also realise this, Seed calmly sends them outside with the exception of his siblings and awaits his arrest, confident that God will not allow his "savior" to be taken. When he is handcuffed and marched to the helicopter, the Peggies become much more aggressive - one desperately clings onto the leg of the chopper and even allowed himself to be sucked into the spinning blades to stop the Father being arrested. In this chaos, Seed remains calm and continues his hymn.

The Deputy awakens upside-down whilst still strapped into the helicopter, in front of him is a serene Seed who calmly repeats what he told them in the church - that God wouldn't let them take him. He contacts dispatch, who is a follower and she tells the authorities the situation is under control, making it clear to the deputies that no-one will come to save them. Exiting the helicopter, Seed is greeted with his followers and uses the attempt to arrest him as a sign of the Collapse is coming true and "begins the reaping". As the helicopter burns, Seed claims it's their punishment from God, though Burke and the Deputy escape.

As the Deputy and Whitehorse escape and join the Resistance, Hudson is kidnapped and tortured by John, Pratt is mentally enslaved by Jacob and Burke is held hostage by Faith using an overdose of Bliss.

During the Deputy's atonement, Joseph reprimanded his younger brother for using the ceremony to sadistically torture his enemy further, calmly and subtly threatening him about being locked out of Eden's Gate. Joseph looks at the Deputy and believes they are not above salvation, leaving them at the mercy of John.

Joseph appears to the Deputy in a Bliss-induced hallucination in the middle of a sermon with his cultists, one of which is Marshal Burke. Despite the individuals actions, Joseph greets them with the same serenity and kindness. He attempts to explain the goals of himself and his followers, claiming that he was chosen by God for this mission and did not ask for it. Elaborating further, Joseph shows the Deputy his vision of the Collapse by a massive explosion and the entire world bathed in fire - he ends this vision by explaining his goals of wanting to return to the pure ways in his new Eden with as many saved souls as possible.

After having Jacob kidnap the Deputy, Joseph explains his backstory about when he was poor and how he and his wife were expecting their first child. After an accident that killed his wife, Joseph rushed to the hospital and was handled a pink bundle of tubes that was his daughter. Realising that God was giving him a test to show his faith, Joseph "sacrificed" his own daughter by holding the tubes to her mouth until she stopped kicking and realised his calling in life. He uses this story to explain that the Deputy must now sacrifice and leaves them in Jacob's hands.

With Holland Valley, Whitetail Mountain and Henbane Valley all liberated and John, Jacob and Faith all dead, Joseph is deeply outraged at the deaths of his family and calls the Deputy for a final showdown to where it all began - the church the marshals where they first tried to arrest him. Waiting for the Deputy, The Father has many Bliss containers ready and their brainwashed allies have kidnapped Hudson, Pratt and Whitehorse at gunpoint. When the Deputy arrives, Joseph offers the Deputy a final chance to walk away with his friends unharmed if they leave him and Eden's Gate alone.

Alternate Endings

Resist Ending

Every slight. Every injustice. Every choice reveals our SIN! John was wrong. Your sin is not wrath. You would rather watch the world suffer and burn than swallow your pride. "And the Lamb broke the sixth seal and lo, there was a great earthquake… The sun became black and the moon turned to blood…"
~ Joseph Seed in the "Resist" ending.

If the Deputy chooses to decline Joseph's offer, he furiously declares their sin, to not be "Wrath" as John believed but "Pride". As Joseph repeats a bible quote, the wind becomes much more violent and he turns over the Bliss containers causing the Deputy to hallucinate. In the vision they are trapped outside the church in the middle of a severe thunder and lightning storm and have to fight their Bliss-brainwashed Marshals, Gun For Hires and allies throughout Hope County before the combined manpower and effort are all able to defeat Seed. A neutralised Joseph continues his bible quote as an air raid siren can be heard and the birds begin fleeing - a massive nuclear bomb goes off in the distance, The Collapse that The Father predicted has come to pass and Joseph begins sing a hymn as the end of the world he foretold has come true. The Deputy, Whitehorse, Pratt and Hudson all attempt to escape the blast via truck with the captured Joseph and take shelter in Dutch's bunker as the sky becomes blood red, the birds all die and the trees catch fire. The car eventually crashes in front of a tree, which kills Whitehorse, Pratt and Hudson, but a freed Joseph and the unconscious Deputy both survive. When the Deputy awakens Joseph has commandeered Dutch's bunker, murdered Dutch and handcuffed them to the bed. Joseph is satisfied with the end of his world as he was correct though he does express a desire to kill the Deputy for murdering his family but instead chooses to make them a part of his "family" so they can reclaim and rebuild the world anew once The Collapse is over. It is possible that by considering him his "family," he intends to indoctrinate the Deputy.

Walk Away Ending

"Judge not, and you will not be judged. Condemned not, and you will not be condemned. Forgive… and you will be forgiven." Take your friends my child and go.
~ Joseph Seed in the Walk Away ending.

If the Deputy decides to walk away, Joseph thanks the player for their decision, and they leave with Sheriff Whitehorse and Hudson and Pratt whilst Joseph Seed stays in Hope County with their brainwashed friends. Whilst Hudson is angered by this directions and nearly refuses to leave, Pratt is happy to go and vows to never return to Hope County. Whitehorse accepts the Deputy's decision as he vows to return with the National Guard, save the civilians and destroy the cult and Joseph Seed. While in the car Sheriff Whitehorse turns on the radio which happens to be tuned to a station playing "Only You" performed by The Platters. As the screen turns red this proves that Jacob Seeds brainwashing of the Junior Deputy using Classical Conditioning was successful. The song, serving as the stimulus, leads to the reflexive response of the Junior Deputy assumedly killing all of his police comrades.

Secret Ending

In the prologue if the Deputy does not arrest The Father immediately and spends around 5 minutes waiting, Whitehorse, who was against apprehending Joseph head on knowing that they would be ambushed and possibly killed, lowers Joseph's hands and orders the group to leave. Despite Burke's objections to this and claiming that he will have the Sheriff and Deputy arrested, Whitehorse asserts that it is "better to leave well enough alone" and the group leaves the church (he also states this during the walk away ending).

Far Cry: New Dawn

Joseph has been confirmed to appear in the new Far Cry game New Dawn. The "Resist" ending and the nuclear holocaust have been confirmed as canon, with the game taking place in Hope County seventeen years after the nuclear war. Joseph appears in the trailer, expressing disappointment in the new world that has emerged after the Collapse.

New Eden's alliance with Hope County's Scavengers has turned the tide of the war against the Highwaymen. Joseph believes the Security Captain is the one destined to lead the new world back to prosperity and will shepherd Eden when he is gone. Joseph is also aware that his son Ethan covets power and acclaim, and most likely desires thepower of their sacred fruit. However, he knows that Ethan's soul is not pure and has tried his best to keep Ethan from partaking of the fruit. Joseph, driven by the will of the Voice, believes it is his destiny to aid the Security Captain and help them unlock the mystical powers hidden inside them; serving as a guide during their time together. Ethan betrays New Eden however and has enticed the Twins Mickey and Lou to eradicate New Eden. After the Captain defeats the Twins at the ruins of New Eden, Joseph and the Captain found Ethan at the sacred apple tree. Ethan expressed his resentment at being replaced by an outsider and in an act of defiance, Ethan ate an apple and was corrupted by it; forcing the Captain to put him down. Joseph mourns the death of his son, and stated that his only fault was that he was his. Joseph then burns down the mystical apple tree and finally acknowledged that he was not the messiah God had promised, but rather the true "shepherd" was the Captain. Joseph states his soul has become a cancer and knowing he doesn't deserve to live for the monstrous crimes he's committed, asks the Security Captain to kill him. If the Security Captain fails and refuses to kill him near the end, he completely loses what's left of his sanity and screams out to God to release him out of his misery.

Personality

You judge me. You judge us. The things that we have done… but people say… that I'm crazy, but when you wake up in the morning you look at the same news that I do. Do your eyes not fill with horror? This is the world?! This? This is the world we have built for our children? Communities being torn apart. Walls being erected. Because leaders are too impotent to act. Bullies are too addled to lead righteously. I did not ask for this. I was chosen.
~ Joseph Seed

Despite his charismatic nature and psychopathic actions, in conversations Joseph Seed has shown to be a quiet individual with a capacity for mercy. Though he shows no hesitance in inflicting violence on those who might resist him, he has shown that he has a capacity for forgiveness and doesn't actively seek violence. Even after the Deputy had murdered his siblings, he was willing to allow them to leave Hope County with their friends unarmed to avoid any further bloodshed.

Joseph does display that he cared about his family and followers as he has made it his personal mission in life to protect them from "The Collapse". When they are murdered, Jospeh's calmness completely erodes and he screams in grief and rage towards the Deputy. Nevertheless, there has shown to be some dominance in Joseph's interactions with his siblings. He subtly threatened John to make sure the Deputy reaches Atonement or "the Gates of Eden shall be shut [to him]" and Faith seems in fear of whatever punishment Joseph might react to her failures. However, Joseph and Jacob show a more equal relationship due to him being the oldest brother.

Joseph truly believes that he was chosen by God to save the world. It is ambiguous whether this was true or simply a Messiah Complex as a result of his insanity but his premonition did actually come to pass if the Deputy chose to resist him. He had no doubt in the righteousness of his mission but even showed a degree of satisfaction that the world was ending, simply because it was proof he was right all along. His reactionary attitude is firmly placed in how corrupt the world has become believing that the only way for humanity to survive is to return to the days of Eden. Whilst he was aware that he was not a "perfect man", Joseph Seed's every action was ultimately what he believed himself to be the righteous hand of God.

Seed spoke calmly and quietly when he spoke but often enunciated his words in sentences to convey a sense of malice to his enemies.

Quotes

I told you that God wouldn’t let you take me.
~ Joseph after the helicopter crash.
Everything is unfolding according to God’s plan. I am still here with you. The First Seal has been broken. The Collapse has begun. And we will take what we need. And we will preserve what we have. And we will kill all those who stand in our way. And these. The harbingers of doom will see the truth. BEGIN THE REAPING!
~ After the helicopter crash.
I know you are in pain. The Lord giveth, and the Lord taketh, huh? But you’re not the only one to be tested… did you know that I had a wife? (Shows his tattoo to the deputy) So beautiful, isn’t she? We were pregnant with our first child. And we were just babies ourselves, really. And I was terrified. On becoming a father. Mostly about money. She wasn’t worried. She had faith that things were going to work out. She always had faith… And then one day, she was going to go visit a friend. There was an accident… and the Lord taketh. And they rushed me to a hospital and put me in a room with this little pink bundle stuffed with tubes and had to be strong because my little girl was going to live. God was looking out for our daughter. And they left me in a, alone in a room with her. I just… stared… at my daughter. So helpless. So innocent… and all she had in the world was me. A nobody, from nowhere, with nothing. And in that moment I knew that God was testing me. He was laying out a path before me and all I had to do was choose. So I put my hand on my little girls head and I leaned in and I could smell. And we prayed together. Prayed for wisdom. Prayed for strength… then I knew. I heard God’s plan for me. And I took my fingers and I put them on that little plastic tube taped to her angelic face and I pinched it shut. And after a little while her legs began to kick and kick… then nothing… stillness. Release. The Lord giveth and the Lord taketh. Pain… sacrifice… these are all part of his test, and we have to prove that we can serve God no matter what he asks.
~ Joseph to the Deputy.
"Forgive them Father… they know not what they do…"

"When the Lamb opened the seventh seal… there was silence in Heaven… and the seven angels before God were given seven trumpets.. And there were noises, thundering's, lightning's, and an earthquake… and I heard a great voice from the temple say to the angels… go your ways… and pour from the vials, the wrath of God upon the Earth." It is finished child.

~ Joseph to the Deputy as the bombs are dropped.
You know what this means? It means the politicians have been silenced. It means the corporations have been erased. It means that the world has been cleansed by God’s righteous fire… But most of all… it means I was right. The Collapse has come. The world as we know it is over. I waited so long… I waited so long for the prophecy God whispered in my ear to be fulfilled… I prepared my family for this moment. And you took them from me. I should kill you for what you’ve done. But you’re all I have left, now. You’re my family. And when this world is ready to be borne anew, we will step into the light. I am you Father and you are my child. And together, we will march to Eden’s Gate.
~ Joseph to the Deputy.
I led us to the new world, I thought it would be glorious...I was wrong.
~ Joseph Seed in New Dawn, realizing his mistakes.
Give me God's justice. Release me. Release me.
~ Joseph Seed in New Dawn, to the Security Captain, asking to kill him near the end; it is also his last words if the Security Captain kills him.
RELEASE MEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!! RELEASE ME!!!
~ Joseph Seed in New Dawn, if the Security Captain refuses to kill him near the end; his last words if the Security Captain spares him.

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Trivia

  • Seed is the only Far Cry antagonist to survive the events of the game no matter which ending is taken.
  • Despite Seed's role in the game, his voice actor Greg Bryk does not consider him a villain.
  • He is somewhat similar to Thanos from the Marvel Cinematic Universe, as both succeed in their goals that cause multiple counts of murder and destruction.