"Hi Austin. This is my alternate account for mobile phone only for the time being given that I forgot the wikia for my mobile phone And as a result, I always use laptop Instead for editing purposes. And Since I can't access my laptop due to potato server In my hometown. I decided I use This account as for now. Don't worry, This Will be temporary though.
Anyways, For the fourth Complete Monster candidate that I effortposted, I created a page dedicated to him: http://villains.wikia.com/wiki/Yuto_Ijika and I list him in Pure Evil category for some reasons that I will tell you. Also, For other candidates, I'm going to take a break as for now. Maybe I could watch Seraphic Blue and find some potential candidates in there. Thanks for understanding"-DeltaHorizon020
Hey, do u have a tv tropes account? If so, I have a CM for u to submit from Star Trek Online, since I wish I could but I am forbidden from using facebook by my parents until I am 18:
So basically, the race known as the Tzenkethi has been glassing planets, most of whom have billions of people on them, with protomatter bombs (It's later revealed to have been in order to wipe out the eggs of this weird bug-like species that is super dangerous). During a fight against the bug aliens, you encounter the monstrous Tzenkethi admiral, Aarn Tzen-Tarrak.
Who is he and what does he do?
Tarrak is a Fleet Admiral in the Tzenkethi Empire and an all around despicable person. 12 years before the main events, he hires a Ferengi called Madran to get information on protomatter, which he happily states will result in them being able to use to create bombs. Later (in a flashback), he and a small fleet are using protomatter on a planet, and he orders captain Parr to destroy dozens of evacuee vessels from said planet for no real reason. This causes a horrified Parr to start to have doubts in her mind. The next planet has 4 billion people, and put all their crystals on the moon, but Admiral Tarrak glasses the planet anyways due to what is believed to be pure pettiness and a "suspicion" that the crystals might be on the planet. This horrifies Parr even further, as they were 4 billion innocent lives snuffed out for no good reason. After that planet is glassed, the fleet visits another planet, but when Parr says that the protomatter bomb is ready to activate, he tells her to leave even though her men are stuck and can't be evacuated. She protests, but he threatens to kill her if she continues to object, calling those men "acceptable losses". Parr states that he simply "wanted to get to his next genocide right on time", and this causes her to defect. In the main story, Tarrak appears countless times, at first telling you to leave, then fleeing whenever you defeat his ship. He glasses countless planets, one of which is a moon belonging to the race Kentar. The bomb wipes out millions of Kentari, and while the damage done to the planet is reversed, the lives taken aren't. When you make an Enemy Mine with the Tzenkethi against the creatures coming from the diamond, known as the Drantzuli, and fight it off successfully, the admiral immediately turns on you once they are defeated and tries to kill you, only stop when his men overthrow him and make peace with you. Later, he attacks Deep Space 9, only to be defeated and forced to surrender. When the Drantizuli are revealed to be a violent alien race called the Hur'q, he gloats about it and mocks you about the death toll the Hur'q will inflict. When the rest of the Tzenkethi, led by Parr, make an Enemy Mine with you, he flees back to Tzenketh, leaving you to die (though you eventually win). He will most certainly appear later on in the season.
Heinous Standard? GOD YES. He literally kills billions to maybe tens of billions of people ONSCREEN.
Redeeming Features? So far, NONE. He acts like he is a Knight Templar, but his pettiness when killing 4 billion people (doing it out of a petty "suspiscion" even though it was confirmed that scans showed NO CRYSTALS WHATSOEVER) removes any possible justification for this. When you kill another Tzenkethi captain, he sounds a bit sad. Keep in mind he was willing to kill another captain who objected to him, and once killed one of his men who tried stopping him from launching a protomatter bomb at a planet. Even if the remorse was genuine, it is such a small moment that it means nothing.
Yeah everything I mentioned? ONSCREEN, with most of it in a flashback. Notice the part where the moment the Enemy Mine with him is no longer needed, he immediately tries to kill you and everyone on the planet with his ship, resulting in his crew temporarily overthrowing him in order to stop him.
Also, since Hakeev is so awful, I personally believe that he deserves a longer description since he is the worse villian Star Trek has to offer. At least an ending like "A bigoted sadist who killed countless billions in the name of power and sadistic pleasure, Hakeev was the most evil monster Star Trek has to offer, being worse than the dark masters he serves." Btw, even the bitch Sela was disgusted by him IIRC.
And which monster you refer to regarding the ones who kills billions onscreen. Hakeev or Tarrak? If Hakeev does kill a lot of billions of people.........Then I probably have a problem with Tarrak qualifying but I'll try to bring it on TVT.
Tarrak kills billions onscreen by glassing a planet with 4 BILLION people for the lulz. Also, while he seems genuinely sad for the dead captain, keep in mind when Parr, another good captain, did't want to leave her men to die, he said "they are acceptable losses, and so are you". When he killed those 4 billion people, he said to Parr that he would've killed her for trying to get him to spare those people, but her noble heritage prevented him from killing her, as her family was one of the most powerful in the Tzenkethi Hegemony. In a story, when one of his engineers tries t stop him from blowing up a planet, he made a decoy, glasses the planet, and kill the engineer. This is a dude who ordered dozens (at least) of evacuee ships with thousands to tens of thousands of innocents aboard destoryed for no real reason.
Well, Hakeev has a small empire, but Tarrak is a fleet admiral, so they are equal. But Hakeev has backing from the Iconians (who creep me the f*ck out), and he was so bad Sela of all people was disgusted and I remember that after he dies (happiest moment of my life), Sela isn't upset.
I see.........By the way. Think I need to see the source for Tarrak so that I could confirm he qualifies or not because the fact that most of the forum users are wary about some proxy EP because I didn't play the game and his arc isn't concluded yet.
On Star trek online wiki (which my school blocks me from looking at), his page has 2 or so stories, including 1 where he buys protomatter and the next where he kills an engineer for trying to stop him, as well the episodes where he appears in the game, I can't look them up at school but I'll do it the moment I get home.
Kay....So I watched the Renegade Regret. And I could safe to say Tarrak can qualify. The fact that he tricks Parr to kills innocent people by saying the civilization ship hack their communication programs is what seals the deal for me. Will watch
ok. Also, Tarrak is Faux Affably evil, since he initially congragulates Parr for killing civilians, but is laer threatening to kill her. Also, Parr literally says that he left her men to die "so he could get to the next genocide on time"
hey, just counted the tally for Tarrak, and he has:
If 1 "no" becomes a "yes", then maybe they can put up something for him. However, until then, I guess we'll have to wait til June in the "victory is life" update. But try to see if DemonDuckofDeath or Scraggle will change their minds
I do however....Would be obliged if I do Tarrak's writeup since when it comes to Video Games CM, it isn't my strong suit even if I'm a huge fan of Video Games and would love to find it from the categories. But glad that I got another one even if it ended up getting on hold until his arc truly ended. Even if I'm not a biggie on Star Trek. I can do Tarrak's writeup for you.
Np........If you play other obscure games or MMO or seeing other works and finding character that hasn't qualified for PE before on TV Tropes. Tell me about it on the message wall and send me some videos or evidence why they are PE.
Also, for Tarrak's writeup, the last sentence could be "a sadist who took pleasure from ending the lives of billions under the mask of helping the galaxy, Tarrak stood out as one of Star Trek's worst monsters"
Ok. Maybe Hakeev's writeup can be modified, since he is likely Star Trek's most evil villian. Maybe an end sentence like "A bigoted sadist who killed countless billions in the name of power and sadistic pleasure, Hakeev was the most evil monster Star Trek has to offer, being worse than the dark masters he serves." Also something on how his own 2nd in command was disgusted by his cruelty.
Maybe..... But if i modified Hakeev's writeup. Will it affect Tarrak's qualification?
For Abbadon.....I dont know but for Fabius Bile..... As my old friend Scraggle put it:
"Oh, Fabius? Kind, saintly old Fabius? Nothing much... just squashing down over a million people into drugs for his followers, flaying countless people alive and stitching their skin as a cape long enough that it needs to be carried behind him, carrying out some of the most twisted, perverse, and sadistic experiments on unwilling subjects he can think of — some of whom he keeps alive for weeks in agony — orchestrating genocide and massacres by the dozen, empowering the soldiers of fellow evil psychopaths with his chemicals, poisoning entire sectors full of people, treating his own followers as test subjects and fodder to be harvested for his own gain."
Will think about updating Hakeev and do a writeup on Tarrak once the new expansion has been released so yeah.......
And heck, for Fabius Bile.... He turns Homeworld's populace into a population of billions of agonized monsters and replicated the same on possibly hundreds of Imperial worlds, turning their populations into delightful little hellspawns called the New Men that go on to slaughter everything in their path throughout the galaxy
Makes me wonder how the hell abaddon got there. You know, there is this villian from a Star Wars comic called Tales of the Jedi, and it already has 2 CMs (Aleema Keto and Exar Kun), but there is another who for some reason didn't make the cut: Naga Sadow.
"Naga Sadow is from the Golden Age of the Sith miniseries. He's a jingoistic, scheming, amoral prick as far as the other Sith are concerned, murdered his mentor to frame it on the Republic (Ok, this might sound really generic for Sith, but when this comic was written, this was seem as something quite heinous, given his mentor was a helpless old head in a jar) which is seen as horrifying and 'monstrous' by other Sith, he launches a war of conquest on the Republic and when he's losing he blows up a nebula to cover his escape, and the narration says he considers the loss of star systems a 'small price to pay' for his own survival. He's also a Mad Scientist who enacts hideous experiments on his loyal followers to mutate them solely because he can."
Now from what I understand, he didn't make the cut likely due to the Heinous Standard, since while he killed billions, Keto and Kun killed trillions apiece. However, he seems like a huge schmuck, blowing up 2 stars and killing billions to cover his escape. Can you please look around and see exactly why he doesn't count?
IMO there are never enough (though some of them deserve to have their writeups extended), but there is literally a list of the CMs who have killed trillions of people (at least) in Star wars. BTW, Vitiate makes MCU Thanos look like Father of the Year!
1. Cell, he lacks the heinous standard. He has no redeeming features, true, but his body count is super low. Vegeta killed billions under Frieza, and Cell has as many resources (aka power) as other CMs.
2. Buu. Super Buu killed Billions, yes, but like I said, so did a much weaker Vegeta under Frieza. Kid Buu should be a CM instead since not only is he the one who wiped out countless trillions in flashbacks, but he is not a GDV, being sadistic and killing For The Evulz.
First of all, my Thanks to you for doing this,2nd of all, it is the Player Character (aka the Outlander) saying this to Valkorion's soldiers. 3rd, justn watched Deadpool 2, AWESOME but no CM's, the only potential one isn't heinous enough. 4th, Thanks again!
For Cell...It's his attempted body count that makes him heinous enough, he attempts to obliterate a solar system and doesn't have as much power as Buu and brutally kills people by absorbing their cells. And Vegeta under Frieza did not kill billions, there is no onscreen evidence to suggest that he did or ANY implication he did, and Cell intended to eradicate all life in the cosmos as well, and Kid Buu doesn't count since he is seriously implied to have impaired agency.
And also, keep in mind that Super Buu would have killed all life in a temper tantrum and both of them tried to wipe out the universe sooo yea
also, I noticed that Pre viszla doesnt count from the clone wars due to not being heinous, now I get that he is generally well-intentioned, but how is he not heinous? He slaughtered hundreds of civilians.
Please respond to this: So I played most of "Victory is Life since it just came out today, and Aarn Tzen Tarrack doesn't appear so far. The only thing about the Tzenkethi is that according to Federation sources, the Tzenkethi Autarch is unpopular and may be overthrown, which relates to how Tarrack's goal was to gain power and eventually become Autarch. If u can, can you plz try to tell the subpages that since he doesn't appear (there is still a bit I have to check in the update), can they do a revote and hopefully put him up for the time being?
Since Tarrack doesn't appear, can you please ask the subpages tropers to do a revote for him? He is certainly heinous enough, goes WAY TOO FAR to be well-intentioned and doesn't care, has only 1 or 2 minor Pet The Dog moments that are quickly subverted, and is a total d*ck overall. A Hate Sink if I ever saw one. Please do this for me, bro.
UM actually, it turns out that Tarrack is the female changing from DS9 in disguise! However, she may be a CM still. While in DS9 she seems to care for her fellow changlings, she is willing to kill Odo, a changeling, when he and the player find out her secrets (like being the reason the Hur’q appeared by colonizing their world and oppressing them). She flat out says that she has killed other founders who found out hat she unleashed the Hur’q. This means that she can be a CM. Please respond soon, Elfen!
Please check this out and then ask the people on the subpage to check it out. I know it won’t be suggested, but I just wanna show off something I’ve been working on to the people in the subpage. Thanks.
Wait, technically only one of them is a rapist (T’ket would used a machine to impregnate Bella, not like that’s much better), and it is only mentioned for Nightmare as one of his crimes (except for poor Mercy in that prequel (different universe though), who suffered it offscreen before being brutally murder, with her broken corpse being very, very onscreen).
Can you do me a small favor and ask the members of the subpages to list all known CM's who have had horrible backstories that don't justify their actions? Examples like Cinder from CRME, Donflamingo, I think Kilgrave, Lotso, Koba, and some others.
I'm curious. I am interested in those sorts of CM's. In my fanfic, Nightmare is under this, because his backstory was awful but others went through the same and were good people. He admits he doesn't care about it. Long story short, the dude's a bastard.
Yes thanks, though if you could ask the people on the subpages for more examples, I'd be grateful. According to Frieza, his father abused him (this is likely true, just read DB unguarded), but this in no way justifies him (nor does he try), as Cooler went through the same thing but is not as evil (Benevolent boss and saves trunk's life in SDBH).
Hey, I found some Star wars CM's who subvert their FE:
1. Phasma. Yes, she was born on a shitty world, but plenty of other people in the book went through the same thing and didn't become evil. For the page on tv tropes for the book Phasma, they even say that even though she's given a FE, she's still a Hate Sink and a monster.
2. Onimi. Similar to Kefka, he was driven insane but it doesn't nearly justify him murdering quadrillions and trying to kill everyone.
3. Chantique. Ok, this lady actually has an awful upbringing. She was sold into slavery by her father (fellow CM Demagol), implied to have been raped, and had to rise through the gladiator ranks. That being said, Jarael went through a similar upbringing and wasn't a monster, and when she tries to portray herself as a Woobie Destroyer of Worlds, Zayne says that she's full of crap, and she even agrees.
4. Lord Odion. Dude was born with a severe headache caused by all life around him. However, he is super sadistic, mind controlling people into jumping into the mouths of beasts only to take away the mind control while laughing at their pain. Also wants to wipe out the universe.
5. Darth Bane. Horribly abused by his father to the point where it is a potential justification (yeah, the abuse was that bad). However, he never tries to justify his actions with his backstory, and killed billions of Sith (though considering they were Sith, no one was that upset).
6. Darth Zannah. Girl is forced into fighting in a war by her Jedi superiors, sees her cousin die, and later has a Start of Darkness when an animal which was her firend is killed. Doesn't justify her extreme sadism and murder of thousands.
7. Count Denetrius Vidian. Yes, he was horribly mutilated in an accident, but he works with the rich people who caused his injury and later tries to kill billions for resources by mining a planet even though this will destabilize it.
8. Darth Krayt. Yes, he was badly tortured by the Yuuzhan Vong which caused him to go insane, but he was already on his way to evil, that just sped it up.
Also, can you please check on why Belok Rhal and Naga Sadow don't count? I heard that Rhal killed quite a few people with few resources, and Sadow killed billions.
I'd like to suggest a CM from the book Star Wars: Last Shot, by the name of Fyzen Gor.
Who is he?
A former medical student who decided to become a cyborg and turn others into cyborgs after he was attacked by pirates (more on this in the FE category).
What does he do?
In a flashback, L3 (may she rest in peace) and Lando enter a facility which L3 is for some reason attracted to, they find dozens of dismembered robot and organic bodies (yeah, it's some serious Nightmare Fuel). They're understandably horrified, and take a device which (they don't know) is the Phylanx Redux Transmitter. This device (once completed) will let Gor turn every droid in the galaxy against their masters, likely killing trillions to quadrillions of people. Gor, who has created a cult led by him known as The Brotherhood of Wire and Bone, believes that organic life is flawed and mechanical beings are a superior form of existence.
Cue Present day, and Gor has held Cloud City hostage via controlling its droids, threatening to kill all of Cloud CIty's citizens by making their droids killer if Lando doesn't bring him the PRT. After Lando and Han Solo find it, they realize that they can't give it to him (for obvious reasons), so he chases them with his soldiers. When Lando is fighting his men (who are cyborgs), they are quietly begging Lando to Mercy Kill them due to the pain (which he does). Eventually, Han Solo kills him via his good ol' blaster.
Fyzen and his friend were kidnapped by Amani gangsters while they were medical students, but while being transported the gangsters were attacked and the only survivors were Fyzen, his friend and a medical droid. From there Fyzen grew an obsession with how much more durable droids were over organics, and even slaughtered his own comatose friend for spare parts to repair his medical droid. The fact that he killed his own friend removes any sympathy for him, and his actions go way too far for any justification.
Well, the aftermath of the dozens of murders he does do are very "detailed". He threatens to wipe out Cloud City, which has (according to Wookiepedia) 5,427,080 people. He also wants to kill god knows how mny people by making all the droids in the galaxy kill their masters. Yeah, he passes.
None. He is certainly not a GDV, as he has a clear motive (he believes that organics are inferior to droids, gee where have I heard that one before). It is stated at least twice in the book that he no longer cares for his family or anyone else. There is nothing about him being a WIE either.
If you do Fyzen Gor on the subpages and get a final verdict on him, I'll never bother you again. Which reminds me, Atrocitus from the animated Green Lanturn Series and Mephiles from Sonic 2006 both subvert their FE's.
I saw, thanks so sosososo much. Just be sure to move Animated Atrocitus (lost his homeworld like in comics, but is way less sympathetic), Mephiles (birth was extremlely painful and agonizing, but is so f***ing sadistic), and Jagi (was the huge unfavorite, but is the worst person in FOTNS and by god that's a huge achievement)
Hey, do you know if any tropers other than AustinDR have wikia pages? You know, someone like ACW or Lightysnake.
Oh BTW, just wanna say something not big but in my Ben 23: Omniforce Fanfiction (go to CM: Fan works on All the tropes wiki, it has its own page), the CM known as Nightmare had a shitty Freudian Excuse, but he subverts it by not only saying he doesn't care about it, but his brothers went through worse and didn't become evil. Although he believes in the prequel Wrath of the Iconians that it does justify his actions, Thraak says it only explains them, and that he cannot be redeemed. Nightmare realizes that he's right and agrees with him.
If you don’t wanna ask him about the new SW CM he is gonna EP, can you at least give me a way to contact him like his email? I can’t make a new account because they think my brothers account was a puppet account when it really wasn’t. I’ve tried telling them other wise, but they won’t believe me.
I would, but I am permenantly banned because the people who run TV tropes think that my brother's account was a puppet account (to be fair, we had similar names). I would understand a 1 month ban (I deserved it), but not a permanent ban. If you could talk to the mods and persuade them to give me my account monsterhunter-2002 or something like that back, I'd be grateful.
i'd give a weak yes. also, sorry for annoying you, and asides from the Ben 10 quote I'd like you to put on the CM Quotes page, I will not be talking to you for a long time. Merry Christmas (if you celebrate it, I don't because I'm Israeli) and a happy new year!
Don't read this or answer until Christmas is over, you need rest.
Hey, not to annoy you, but I have 3 small requests:
1. Are there any details on how bad Mothergod's father was? Not that it justifies her, molesting her own son alone subverts it, but just curious.
2. Can you add Atrocitus from Green Lanturn, the Animated Series, Mephiles the Dark from Sonic 2006, Infinite from Sonic Forces, and Jagi from Fist of the North Star all to the list of CM's who subvert their FE?
3. Since they're right now talking about a guy who tried to evade a ban on the subpages, do you think you could try to ask them to help me get my monsterhunter-2002 account back? If you want, I'll explain the story again.
Hi, I am a fan of the Complete Monster trope and I have heard that you are well connected on TV Tropes. I have a potential Complete Monster quote for The Lich from Adventure Time:
"There is only darkness for you, and only death for your people. These ancients are just the beginning. I will build a great and terrible army, and we will sail to a billion worlds. We will sail until every light has been extinguished. You are strong, child. But I am beyond strength. I am THE END. And I have come for YOU, Finn."
Hi there, I am a fan of the Complete Monster Trope, and I believe I have a good quote for Rize Kamishiro. If you don't know who she is, she is the girl who turns Ken, the main character, into a ghoul while trying to kill him.
"Mr. Kaneki, there's something I like even more than reading. Know what it is? It's pulling out all the organs of someone who isn't trying to run away from me. That expression! It's fantastic! Would you let me... thrill myself EVEN MORE?!"
-Rize Kamishiro, after biting Ken Kaneki and trying to kill him
If you care to listen, I have some more potential CM quotes from various villains you may find interesting:
"This will be even more satisfying that I expected. Look at the little insects, pretending like they matter... Soon they will learn the folly of their false beliefs... they will taste the sweetness of utter oblivion."
~ Lucemon discussing the real world, Digimon Frontier.
"But isn't that what you want to hear, Doctor? That I was a poor, abused child? That I was tortured and hung by my ankles above a pit of broken glass? Well, maybe that's all true. Or maybe... I'm just the inevitable aberration. The soul that's born so black, so twisted, so filled with unreasoning hatred... that there's no explanation. You can't make me sane, Doctor. You can't hope to redeem me. All you can do is kill me. Because, if you don't—I'll break out of here. You have my word on that. And the blood—the glorious blood—will flow like wine!"
~ Cletus "Carnage" Kasady to Dr. Ashley Kafka, Spider-Man and Batman: Disordered Minds
"I need you to know what happened to Planet Vegeta, where we were born. It's gone, destroyed, that's true, but not because it collided with a giant meteor. It was Frieza! Frieza did it! After we Saiyans served him faithfully and blindly followed his every last order, he... he betrayed us! Disposed of our race like common trash! Wiped us from existence! Now we are all that remain!"
-Vegeta, describing Frieza destroying Planet Vegeta, from DBZ Kai (basically a version of DBZ English Dub that is closer to the original Japanese version)