I thought I was a loud to edit the cm becasue Sky Knight Subaki was doing the same thing as well as other users so thats why I thought that I was a loud to edit that stuff on all the tropes wiki lots of other users have been doing it with out getting banned sorry if for the miss under standing
also if you don't want people to edit the cm pages maybe you should put it some where that they are not a loud to edit those pages that would make things a lot easyer to know witch stuff can be edit and witch stuff can't
in my opion you can go a bit over boead with the blocks any way I do see that thier are some characters on all the tropes wiki that don't even count as cms and yet when they are deleted you for
some reason block that person and yet if a other user does the same thing or edits for bad reason you don't block them and
I find some of the characters on all the tropes wiki were added in more out or eather blide hate or spit then them being cms
you have cm's on that that are in love have redeemed them selfs and ones that have morality problems and you even have tomoo witch he does not fit the standereds and he only kills lucy's dog beauce of what her fake freind said to him and on top
of that thier is no way of knowing how he would of turn out if he was still a live and he had no way of knowing that lucy would end up that way he was not even as evil as he could be and yet
maybe you should take a break from cm's seeing how you are leting them slip by and you blcok me just beacues I was
trying to help by removeing characters that are not even cms and yet other people are a loud to edit stuff and do the same thing
you have villains lebel as cms that are not even cms you even have redeemed villains lebel as cms on all the tropes wiki and yes I was trying to help by delteing chracters that are not even cms but find can you un bann me on all the tropes wiki so i can tell you why they don't count
also I can read my spelling find maybe you might need to get your eyes cheack if you have trubble reading and maybe you should put down on pages that are not a loud to be edited or just pretct all of the pages so people wont make misstakes like this
OK, here's what I had to translate from your...language:
"You have villains labeled as cms that are not even CMs. You even have redeemed villains labeled as CMs on All The Tropes Wiki. And yes, I was trying to help by deleting characters that are not even CM, but fine, Can you un-ban me on All The Tropes Wiki so I can tell you why they don't count?
Also, I can read my spelling fine. Maybe you might need to get your eyes checked if you have trouble reading and maybe you should put done on with pages are not allowed to be edited or just protect all of the pages so people won't make mistakes like this."
Compare that version to what you actually wrote, please?
As for the examples....I stated why Tomoo made the cut (even if just barely) in the Talk page, Terrormisu in the main story technically matches the trope criteria (if being characterized differently afterwards was a disqualifier, King Boo wouldn't still be there), and I don't know what the issue is with the Zelda examples you deleted - there's nothing suggesting that Majora and Ghirahim are lacking in moral agency and incapable of making choices.
and it seems like Wonder Woman (Flashpoint) mourns Aquaman's death
now Grand Maestro Mohs well first thing is that the main characters felt sorry for him after his death, and he is also a Well-Intentioned Extremist, he was also rise into beliveing that the The Score of Yulia Jue was to be followed at all cost,
and he thinks that he is leading, Kimilasca-Lanvaldear to new prosperity he also belive what he is doing is right to the point that when he find out the turth his mind breaks.
and now onto Tomoo I just find he does, not fit the staders all of the ther villains has done worst, and thier is no way of knowing for sure what he would be like if he was still a live, he also did not know that Lucy would end up that way and he only killed her dog beauce of some thing. Lucy fake friend did off screen.
I'm not familiar with Adachi. As for the rest - I didn't get those interpretations out of Majora and Mohs. Judging their characters based on what was on screen, their depictions matched the criteria for CM - Majora seems more insane than he does incapable of understanding morality, and Mohs was more Knight Templar than Well-Intentioned Extremist. As for Tomoo, I don't think he's a full 100% case of a CM but he was very clearly depicted as an inhumane sociopath who would have grown up to be pretty much like the Unknown Man were he not killed off so early in his life.
I have played the game many times before and Mohs pretty much was rise to be the way he is and he does think that he is bring Kimilasca-Lanvaldear to new prosperity, in fact that is the only thing he knows about the prophecy, in fact he does not go insane untill after he finds out the truth that is how much he belives in the religion and the main characters are sorry about his death, his religion goes around to forfulling the prophecy nomatter what because thats is the only way to to live so that was how he was rise. and his mind broke after he found out the truth.
he fused himself with his own shadow. A shadow is a being made out of a characters worst part of thier personality's and make them even worst, on top of that he was being used by two other villains that were trying to take kill every one in the world and in the series killing people happensd a lot in the series and in just about every game thier is some one trying to kill all life in the world. his body even got taken over by one of the other villains, and after the events of persona 4 he is out of jail and he is very adamant in trying to atone for his past crimes,he also genuinely values his friendship with Dojima he even was seen smiling when Dojima came to visit him in prison, and he also showed remorse when Dojima still sees him as his partner.
Sorry for the misunderstanding. The typing of the edits should have made it clear it was Mario doing them - I've had trouble with him before, as well as another user who kept coming back under different user names, but it seems you're not that user.
And I feel like this fear of CM becoming "meaningless" is unfounded. No matter how I look at it, it seems you're trying to apply TV Tropes standards to ATT's version of the trope. CM on ATT isn't just for any given villain who is the least bit nasty and crosses the MEH - it's established criteria and standards to determine what passes and what doesn't, and most of the examples you argue about make the cut based on that. (And yes, we do make a few exceptions for characters who only leave CM territory through Characterization Marches On rather than Character Development - Mayuri, Orochimaru, Tobi/Obito Uchiha, and Kevin 11/Kevin 11000 being prime offenders.)
I haven't played the game, so I wouldn't know. They just seem pretty AU-ish, what with characters like Terrormisu appearing and getting no big reaction from other characters given what she tried to do in the main story.
I don't think they're canon. Another thing to consider is that in the main story her Tiaramisu persona was shown to be a total facade, but in the bonus episode she puts it on again almost schizoprhenically.
I was reading his talk page and I noticed you said he can't be labelled a Complete monster because TV Tropes says he isn't, were you serious? There are plenty of Complete Monsters here that aren't approved on that stupid site.
I think Mr. Krabs deserves to have the Complete Monster category, I know you have experience in All Tropes (And I'm glad to see that even The Shadow Queen is a CM there) but at least he could apply to be a Knight of Cerebus, even TV Tropes classified him. I know Jester said that TV Tropes is very silly with the KoC category but well.
YTP!Krabs isn't a CM. He was trying to resist his bloodlust at first, cared about Spongebob and Squidward enough to be hurt by them selling him out to the cops, and is overall played for black comedy that turns out to just be a story by Patrick in the end. Knight of Cerebus would be a more fitting category for him seeing as, while humorously absurd, he and his actions ARE very dark.
If this is about the YTP Mr. Krabs, Krabs' portrayal in that YTP is typical of most darkfics; pointlessly dark fanfictions that take canon characters and demonize them to such ludicrously gruesome extents they're impossible to take seriously (Rainbow Factory Rainbow Dash, Snapped Isabelle, etc.) and thus cannot logically be measured with the CM system. This version of Mr. Krabs falls under that exact same rule. Besides, Krabs is insane to a point where he probably doesn't know what he's doing.
Exaclty. We even see his breakdown and him going "STOP IT! MAKE IT STOP!" to the voice inside his head. Krabs in the video was spoofing geuinely mentally unhinged people who turn into serial killers and cannot help their bloodlust, not people who enjoy killing because they're completely evil and like to see their victims suffer.
I haven't seem him in the games (I haven't played it yet & I can't find a rom where I can play Pokemon White & its sequel, I can't afford the game for my DS) & no offense but I don't really give a damn about the character, only the Pokemon in the games, much like Transformers fans as I observe as they only consider Transformers for antagonist rather than human antagonists. I'm clearly like this when it comes to Pokemon games, just fastforwarding the plot to get any Pokemon I want especially the Mystery Dungeon games & core games. I do like his theme song in B2W2.