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  • Happy New Year, General MGD 109!

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  • Well, didn't the Master turn over the dish aerial to make the Doctor fall to his death?

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  • You might wanna remove the category, "Successful Villains", because he wasn't very successful

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  • Why did you block yourself on the other site?

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  • I don't think taht there's an actual problem with that category, were you told to do this by a mod?

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    • I'm just saying he shouldn't have to wait to remove deleted categories if they're deleted. Yeah, there's the tedious possiblity of having to go back and unremove the categories if it's restored, but that's just how things work.

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    • fair enough

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  • Glad to meet another fan of this absolute classic series! I decided to give Jim Hacker a page after doing Sir Humphrey's because, if you look at his character through Yes, Minister and Yes, Prime Minister, Hacker is mostly concerned with his personal power and prestige, backs down numerous times on moral objectives for selfish reasons (mostly to save face and preserve his power and influence) and certainly does some other dubious things (in "Party Games" alone he uses his political immunity to get out of a drink-driving charge, and then becomes Prime Minister through blackmailing the two front-running party candidates!). I think a good case can made for him being an anti-villain; he's self-absorbed, power-hungry, vain, often cowardly and hypocritical, and motivated almost entirely by self-interest, but, in stark contrast to Sir Humphrey, he isn't completely amoral or callous, and does display pangs of conscience ("The Whisky Priest" is a prime example) and frustration over the sheer absurdity and corruption of the system. His obviously loving relationship with his wife Annie is also a humanising quality (when they're not bickering their interactions can be genuinely touching). I do acknowledge that he wants to bring about genuine changes for the better; it's just ambiguous whether or not his obsession with power (and the popular vote) as a means to an end has made his original desire to do good a secondary concern. Definitely a very complex character. I think I may create a page for him on the Protagonist Wikia.

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    • Okay, thank you I suppose your right. He does dip on several occasions. And I think creating a page for him on both is the right idea. And indeed it was a brillaint show.

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    • Glad we agree! Do you think I should round out the Yes Minister entries by giving Bernard Woolley a page? After all, even though he's easily the most sympathetic and least self-serving out of the three main characters, he's still complicit in Hacker's and Sir Humphrey's antics and schemes (to be fair, not always willingly), and in upholding a thoroughly corrupt system. Also, in "The Complete Yes Minister" he later becomes "Sir Bernard" and head of the Civil Service, implying that he's "turned to the dark side". What do you think? Also, I've yet to see any of the 2013 revival; have you seen it? And if you have, is it any good?

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    • No I don't think so, he's basically torn between trying to please both his masters, and figuring out what will keep him from being reasigned to miniscule job, ruining his career. He also is clearly the least cynical member of the civil serivice. Although its implied he does turn to the dark side at the end. So maybe. But I would say no.

      No I'm afraid I haven't, I was going to watch it, but unfortunetly I missed it.

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  • Buddyrichiedonmoochie banned me from the RLV site for no good reason and without warning. Please correct this ASAP.

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  • May I talk to you here?

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  • I have updates regarding Willow Giovanna that easily warrants "her" article being reinstated, and also further evidence (read: out–and–outright proof) of The Master's Voice's status as a hateful bully.

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    Magma MK-II
    Magma MK-II closed this thread because:
    Enough of this.
    17:49, April 5, 2014
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    • Wait, he did? Where was I when that happened?

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    • What are you asking, Becky? When he said he was sexually attracted towards children? If so, it was on another wiki. When Voice asked if Reson was attracted to pictures of under-aged people drawn sexily, Reson answered with: "I am attracted to some such pictures, and that does NOT make me a pedophile or "animal fucker"." D-Don't ask how I know that.

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