The Nail one does a bit more onscreen from
What I recall and isn’t in a setting that’s already corrupted into a darker setting where everything is worse for everyone. I’m probably not voting this one but I can see a couple reasons why they might reject him.
1. Everything the Nail Joker is standard villainy aside killing Batgirl and Robin and super villains torture heroes by doing that all the time. He also appears in the same comic with Darksied who tired to destroy the universe. Maybe the Batman who Laughs Joker doesn’t count but the Nail Joker shouldn’t count ethier.
2. Have you seen my evilest comic book villain poll? If so who would you vote for?
None of his actions really surpass normal super villain behavior except killing Batgirl and Robin. He kills many people (super villains do that), he forces the villains to fight each other (only like two die and not that heinous by DC standards) and kills Batgirl and Robin hurt Batman which many super villain should have done as well. His moral event horizon isn’t nearly on bar as the Batman who Laughs Joker. I agree with the onscreen villainy part but I’ve been told trying to destroy the universe outdoes anything involving resources due to how heinous it is.
Just attempting to destroy the universe isn’t automatically a disquieting others or that character immediately dying as there are far worse fates than simply dying plus again ones a God the other a normal human. The Nail one seems to do more than traditional villainy as while trying to kill heroes is a norm the fact he killed them how with the forcing others to kill each other (it seems played more like the entire area not merely a couple people) is enough with everything. Not necessarily the worse Joker but more onscreen acts than some.
hey Jester I was wondering how do you feel about the idea of central and secondary antagonists being able to exist in the same work. As both are on several pages for a movie tv show franchise or whatever. Red Chevalier thinks they can't however, and his argument does make a lot of sense since the secondary antagonist means the second most important antagonist and having an in between main and secondary would kind of make the wording confusing, he views central as basically a more important secondary antagonist.
I have recently been removing some overlap I just wanted to know what you thought about this.
I generally say Nicholson’s worse because he had no implied tragic backstory, kills many innocents and wanted to kill everyone in Gotham. Ledger never inflicted domestic abuse on women (compared to Alicia) and usually killed civilians to make a point. A good portion of his victims were criminals. He also didn’t intend to kill everyone in Gotham ether.
There is mostly it but there are moments where he’s seen affectionately holding her close to him and he never abuses her unlike Harley. They’ve also say she’s supposed to be an anti-Harley Quinn in that’s she’s much more sadistic but also that Joker actually cares for her.
True that. Also from reading the tv tropes it seems Jokers only considered pure evil in post-crisis (and even then it’s lampshades he isn’t in The Killing Joke, Emperor Joker or Batman R.I.P.) and in the New 52.
He isn’t pure evil in Pre-Crisis (insufficiently heinous, played for laughs in Silver Age and was shown to have cared for Penguin in Batman the Brave and the Bold #191 while teaming up with Batman) or in DC Rebirth (stopped Batman from killing Riddler, congratulated Selina for getting married to Batman, him and Selina showed respect to Two-Face in Batman DC Rebirth 4 while lying injured on the ground, he helped Batman stop the Batman who Laughs twice and showed remorse in JLA #15 when made sane).
Could you please remove the part of DC Jokers personality where it says, “The Three Joker confirms his origin is indeed true so his love is Jokers only possible redeeming quality” in the final paragraph? I added that because of the Three Jokers but since it isn’t over yet and we don’t know what will be canon that part should be deleted
I need your help. The image currently being used for the Zaheer page is obviously fanart (the art is not even well-made, the proportions are all off, it's obvious just by looking at it) but Ordeaux26 refuses to listen, demanding "proof". I clearly can't get through to him, would you help in this matter?
Thanks. Honestly, I'm having some concerns with Ordeaux26 being a content mod. He edit-warred with you and I on the Joker page, edit-warred on the Henry Stickmin page and abused crossover categories, can't see obvious fanart, and has been marking a ton of votes on PE Proposals as invalid even if they give their reasoning, stating that their reasoning is invalid or that their explanations aren't long enough. I don't think he's cut out for the job.
If you have issues with my moderation Nerd please say it to my face not behind my back. I am willing to take criticism and I can agree with some of yeah I was edit warring on the two pages you mentioned with Joker I didn't agree with the decision but I have given up now, as for Henry Stickmin back then I didn't understand the crossover rules very well, its not an excuse but I am willing to learn from this. I have not seen The Legend Of Korra so I had a much harder time seeing it as Fanart, though I will also admit I messed up there and I may have a hard time recognizing Fan-art I will try to get better at that, I apologize. When it comes to the Pure Evil Proposals can you please give me examples, though I will admit I can be pretty harsh when it comes to votes I just want people to give good reasons.
I know I'm not perfect I can acknowledge that but it seems that you expect me to. I hate to be blunt but you weren't perfect either when you were a mod on this wiki, I was trusted for the position by two different Bearaucrats it honestly feels you just don't like me because I took your position but I hope that's not true.