Hello Joe, I am messaging to query your reclassification of Mana Ouma as a "Complete Monster", due to the fact that Mana's entire personality and all associated psychopathic traits were entirely the result of her infection with the Apocalypse Virus, and prior to her resurrection, she seemed to want to try to stop herself from spreading the virus and causing the destruction she did, at least at times, and immediately before her first "death" she showed significant fear about "becoming something she wasn't". To me, I think it is very clear that "Complete Monster" should be replaced with "Possessed/Brainwashed" and "Tragic Villain", both relating to the effect the Apocalypse virus had on her. After I conferred with administrator G-Monster, he/she (I'm not really sure due to the anonymity of the site) agreed. As such I felt that I should ask why you felt a need to change this back so soon after it was first changed. Ohdear15 (talk) 14:52, May 11, 2016 (UTC)
Because that's complete nonsense. Mana was infected with the virus, but she gained control of it and started to use it for her own selfish desires. She tried to destroy the world just because Shu rejected her and even tried to rape him. She's all the worst aspects of an Omnicidal Maniac and a Yandere wrapped up in one sick, twisted monster. Basically a pure evil Yuno Gasai.
I'm sorry, you say that Mana "tried to destroy the world just because Shu rejected her", but when I watched the scene it looked a lot more like she couldn't handle his rejection, and in an emotional turmoil she completely lost control of these abilities that were already messing with her personality. I just don't think that she DELIBERATELY instigated the first Lost Christmas, and her dialogue just beforehand in which she expressed fear about becoming someone else I thought kind of solidified this.
There's nothing wrong with offering some feedback, Austin. I can say Joe might need to lighten the tone a few times, but nothing he's done has breached into outright offensive or harassing. The community's free to express feedback - and it seems all but some of the most active users have been staying silent on these matters - and he's free to stay as long as he wants.
I'm not saying that there is anything wrong with feedback; what I'm saying is that if a user's just complaining or saying, "You're all making a mistake" rather than give a reasonable explanation for their comments, that's where I take offense.
It's being inducted into a super-category - among many others - through some process that apparently skipped my notice. If you're concerned, I'd suggest talking to SUPERMEGAGENIUS as he seems to be the leading effort in the merge right now; it's high time he consulted some things with an admin anyhow.
To be fair, the admin feedback on the blogs has been drifting off, which is frustrating to those who want to get the cleanup rolling and done. So when 1 says something in agreement, it's taken as full approval.
I'm sorry for posting the message that was supposed to be on this wiki and not on tardis'. I may be the main editor of the page, but I'm truly just getting started, as I log in only occasionally. Can I still know if you were the one who added "The differences of past which arose same nature of Yuno and Mana" in the trivia section of the page "Mana Ouma" on this wiki?
Wikis are entirely made for the purpose of information and not conclusions.
Conclusions can be like: I know Yuno was an antagonist, but you can't really blame her now. I mean, was it her fault that her mom went insane and made her insane too? Nope, it was all her dad's fault because had he cared for his family in the first place, this would have never happened.
But no, you can't put that on a wiki. The only thing you can put on a wiki is what actually happened; and what was the reaction to that incident/ accident. It is upto the audience to percieve everything and draw a conclusion. For a wiki, an antagonist is an antagonist; if that is how it is depiscted in a series, whether it was their fault or not.
We can't compare the evil of characters based on their emotions and their purpose because we find it gross. Mentioning of similarities two antagonists have and differences which they arised from is innocent, but to add why the other one should be percieved as more evil? I really don't think that isn't getting in the way of the true purpose of a wiki.