Bio My name's Cherry. Please don't call me Loolveus, I hate the name and only still have it because I've not got any other choice thanks to me already using up one change my username thing. I'm a writer, YouTuber, and editor with plenty of knowledge about villains, heroes, anti-heroes/villains, etc. I'm kind of an odd person but I try be the nicest I can, I acknowledge I can come off as quite standoffish while editing though. Feel free to browse my user page assuming you're on one of the wikis were it's actually written out.
Be specific please. You also could've just removed the categories you disagreed with instead of just reversing my edit completely. I mainly came from a perspective that the categories I deemed irrelevant for him from the moment he became disfigured. So allow me to explain my reasons:
-Honorable: He doesn't demonstrate any honor as Two-Face.
-Insecure: He's not looking to be accepted by anyone, he wants revenge.
-Supervillains: He has no superpowers.
-Legacy: He's not continuing anyone's legacy in his villanous state.
-Betrayed: He feels betrayed but he really wasn't.
-Rivals: Who is he rivalling with?
-Archenemy: He's not the main enemy of the film/trilogy.
-Vigilante: I can reluctantly allow this one to stay, arguably he does take it into his own hands to kill a corrupt cop. But he wasn't doing that with good intent; it was simply an act of revenge.
-Grey Zone: I don't think attempted child murder makes his moral agency ambiguous in any way.
-Villains by Proxy: He actively chooses to be evil and rejects any redemption.
-Terrorists: There were no political motives in his evil acts, just revenge.
-Affably Evil: He sheds his affability when he becomes disfigured.
-Necessary Evil: Nothing good happens from him being kept alive.
So I talked to other users on Discord, and it seems like most of your points stand. For Supervillains, he doesn't have any meaningful powers beyond ambush tactics and his gun, so I think that should go. The point you made on Legacy better fits with Posthumous, which is already on the page. As I said, categories should only apply for a fallen hero after they become villain, so therefore Affably Evil should go; I added Faux Affably Evil because of the way he taunts Gordon at the end. Whether this stays is optional, but he's definitely not genuinely friendly.
As for the categories I did add, Torturer should fit considering that the part where he holds Gordon's family hostage is psychologically torturing for all involved, so I ask you allow that to stay.
He's NOT faux affable, he doesn't fake affability and his personality didn't change that much he just had a breakdown. And idk if that's specific enough to count as torture but I'm not really against it being added as a category I suppose
my apologies. After I looked at a clip of the scene where Count Olaf was doctor and was speaking to Violet in a real villianous way, I thought adding a new quote and a sound recording to it would fit the page. Sorry about that.
Just so you know, I temporarily removed Twin/Clone from Ghirahim's page because while he's an evil counterpart to Fi, I didn't think of them as twins or clones since I didn't think they was any connection between the Goddess Sword and Demise's sword. I just thought they were similar in terms of being sentient beings with ties to weapons. Plus, I just got around to playing to the end of the game personally, which is why I did it now as opposed to earlier.
They don't have to be biologically related to be twins or clones, and there's enough similarities between them aesthetically and power wise to allow the category, look at how similar their sword forms for a start as well as ghirahim's final and Fi's regular, they're near identical aside from colour
Okay, well I guess I can follow that logic. It also doesn't matter that much to me whether the category is there or not, I just thought it might be an improper use of it after playing/viewing the game in its entirety. Oh, and just so you know, I'm the same user as ThatScrewyDuck. I just finally decided to rename my profile after debating about doing so for a while.
"The 1997 novel The Dark Path shows the Second Doctor in one of his first encounters with the Master since leaving Gallifrey. Throughout the story, the Master is only called by the pseudonym "Koschei". In Russian folklore, Koschei (rus.Коще́й or Коще́й Бессме́ртный, "Koschei The Deathless") is a villain who hides his soul in an obscure location under many layers of protection so that he can never die.
Though the Second Doctor does not recognise Koschei by that name in The Dark Path, and the novel even goes so far as to state that the Master has only just begun calling himself Koschei, later stories like Divided Loyalties and The Face of the Enemy reuse the name in ways that suggest it is the true name of the Master. The 2018 short story Lords and Masters casts this theory into doubt, however, as Missy states that her real name contains thirty-two letters."
1.Throughout the story, the Master is only called by the pseudonym "Koschei".
-(The very first source of this name even stated that it is just a pseudonym which referred to Russian folklore. The Master is a Time Lord from a diffrent planet, not russian)
2.The novel even goes so far as to state that the Master has only just begun calling himself Koschei.
-(Means that his real name is not Koschei and he just started using this name)
3.Later stories like Divided Loyalties and The Face of the Enemy reuse the name in ways that suggest it is the true name of the Master.
-("In ways that suggest" is not even directly stated. It is too vague, and it's just theory. This one is the "closest" we got that the Master's real name is Koschei)
4.The 2018 short story Lords and Masters casts this theory into doubt, however, as Missy states that her real name contains thirty-two letters.
-(The new source of the media already casts this theory into doubt)
It's never truly confirmed YET that "Koschei" is his real name or not.
More importantly, it never been confirmed in the main Doctor Who narrative.
don't feel bad Loolveus, Doctor Who is a very confusing series but most (if not all Time Lords) are very hard to place in terms of "real names" as often the real names of Time Lords (if they ever had one) is lost to.. well.. time.
Master and Doctor in general never have a "true" name, only guesses at best.
also Fantastic, you accused him of adding false info - which is rude.. you have no idea he did that deliberately.. he just didn't know.. as I said Doctor Who is a confusing verse so don't assume that someone is adding misinfo on purpose.
Messing with the page? I assure you that me and Phoenix are in the right here. Read the rules on which characters count as villains if you don't believe me, jerky heroes aren't villains Manny is no different.
Why do you think he's the secondary antagonist? he was more evil than Ghost and his plans were more evil, Ghost wasn’t really evil, she just wanted to cure her own condition so Sonny had bigger plans so Sonny Burch is actually the main antagonist, the actors name appears first in the credits, hinting this. I even wrote in the summary.
Being "more evil" and his plans being "more evil" isn't enough, the story just doesn't focus on him much and it's clearly Ghost who's presented as the main that. The actors name thing is irrelevant as well, that has nothing to do with the antagonist scale
Threat I meant and he doesn't have bigger plans, all he wanted to do was steal Pym's technology. That's not any bigger than ghost in spite of her sympathetic goals and again she's the one who's focused on. Birch is just a random criminal
But Sonny Burch wanted to make money by selling Pym's technology to potentially dangerous bidders and taking out anyone in his way with no remorse, whereas Ghost merely wanted Pym's technology to cure her own condition. he seems to have bigger plans to me, is it because he never gets the technology to do what he wanted to do?
That's not exactly bigger plans in the context of the movie, and I'd say yes since we never see anyone trying to buy them or him succeeding in selling. Ghost may have wanted it for sympathetic reasons but that doesn't give her a get out of jail free card, her plans were just a big and she was a more immediate and dangerous threat while Burch seems quickly forgotten about