Loolveus

Because you removed several categories which were actually correct

Be specific please. You also could've just removed the categories you disagreed with instead of just reversing my edit completely. I mainly came from a perspective that the categories I deemed irrelevant for him from the moment he became disfigured. So allow me to explain my reasons:

-Honorable: He doesn't demonstrate any honor as Two-Face.

-Insecure: He's not looking to be accepted by anyone, he wants revenge.

-Supervillains: He has no superpowers.

-Legacy: He's not continuing anyone's legacy in his villanous state.

-Betrayed: He feels betrayed but he really wasn't.

-Rivals: Who is he rivalling with?

-Archenemy: He's not the main enemy of the film/trilogy.

-Vigilante: I can reluctantly allow this one to stay, arguably he does take it into his own hands to kill a corrupt cop. But he wasn't doing that with good intent; it was simply an act of revenge.

-Grey Zone: I don't think attempted child murder makes his moral agency ambiguous in any way.

-Villains by Proxy: He actively chooses to be evil and rejects any redemption.

-Terrorists: There were no political motives in his evil acts, just revenge.

-Affably Evil: He sheds his affability when he becomes disfigured.

-Necessary Evil: Nothing good happens from him being kept alive. 

All of them were wrong that's why-

-Honorable: Still an honorable person in general

-Insecure: There's more than one type of insecure

-Supervillains: Doesn't matter, a character can still be a supervillain without them

-Legacy: Was supposed to take over from Batman as Gotham's hero and even took on his name at one point

-Betrayed: He was betrayed by the officers that were supposed to be on Gordon's side.

-Rivals: As Harvey Dent technically Batman albeit a very friendly rivalry

-Archenemy: Archenemies don't need to be... And he's one to Gordon in the end.

-Vigilante: Wants to kill bad people mainly, his morals also imply this.

-Grey Zone: He's delusional, thinks he's doing good and for the most part is targetting bad people

-Villains by Proxy: He was MADE to become evil by the Joker mentally breaking him

-Terrorists: There were no political motives in his evil acts, just revenge.

-Affably Evil: Still a friendly stand up guy before and he doesn't fake affability when he snaps

-Necessary Evil: His presense is used to give the people of Gotham hope for a better tomorrow until Bane exposes the truth.

So I talked to other users on Discord, and it seems like most of your points stand. For Supervillains, he doesn't have any meaningful powers beyond ambush tactics and his gun, so I think that should go. The point you made on Legacy better fits with Posthumous, which is already on the page. As I said, categories should only apply for a fallen hero after they become villain, so therefore Affably Evil should go; I added Faux Affably Evil because of the way he taunts Gordon at the end. Whether this stays is optional, but he's definitely not genuinely friendly.

As for the categories I did add, Torturer should fit considering that the part where he holds Gordon's family hostage is psychologically torturing for all involved, so I ask you allow that to stay.

He's NOT faux affable, he doesn't fake affability and his personality didn't change that much he just had a breakdown. And idk if that's specific enough to count as torture but I'm not really against it being added as a category I suppose

There you go, you just need to replace the original picture in the future to do that.

thank U very much

I dont think I will ever learn

They don't have to be biologically related to be twins or clones, and there's enough similarities between them aesthetically and power wise to allow the category, look at how similar their sword forms for a start as well as ghirahim's final and Fi's regular, they're near identical aside from colour

Okay, well I guess I can follow that logic. It also doesn't matter that much to me whether the category is there or not, I just thought it might be an improper use of it after playing/viewing the game in its entirety. Oh, and just so you know, I'm the same user as ThatScrewyDuck. I just finally decided to rename my profile after debating about doing so for a while.

Alright I was wrong, don't be so rude about it though.

I don't intends to be rude to you. If it looks like I'm rude then I'm very sorry.

don't feel bad Loolveus, Doctor Who is a very confusing series but most (if not all Time Lords) are very hard to place in terms of "real names" as often the real names of Time Lords (if they ever had one) is lost to.. well.. time.

Master and Doctor in general never have a "true" name, only guesses at best.

also Fantastic, you accused him of adding false info - which is rude.. you have no idea he did that deliberately.. he just didn't know.. as I said Doctor Who is a confusing verse so don't assume that someone is adding misinfo on purpose.

Well, I'm very sorry then. I'll stops using those words (I'm not a native english speaker so sometimes it appears like that).

I didn't assume that he adding it on purpose tho, I thought he doesn't know about it.

Again, very sorry.

Messing with the page? I assure you that me and Phoenix are in the right here. Read the rules on which characters count as villains if you don't believe me, jerky heroes aren't villains Manny is no different.

He wasn't really an antagonist for most of the film so deuteragonist is the more suited option I'd say.

Being "more evil" and his plans being "more evil" isn't enough, the story just doesn't focus on him much and it's clearly Ghost who's presented as the main that. The actors name thing is irrelevant as well, that has nothing to do with the antagonist scale

What do you mean by main that?

Isn’t the villain who has bigger plans than everyone else usually the main?

Threat I meant and he doesn't have bigger plans, all he wanted to do was steal Pym's technology. That's not any bigger than ghost in spite of her sympathetic goals and again she's the one who's focused on. Birch is just a random criminal

Ok

But Sonny Burch wanted to make money by selling Pym's technology to potentially dangerous bidders and taking out anyone in his way with no remorse, whereas Ghost merely wanted Pym's technology to cure her own condition. he seems to have bigger plans to me, is it because he never gets the technology to do what he wanted to do?

That's not exactly bigger plans in the context of the movie, and I'd say yes since we never see anyone trying to buy them or him succeeding in selling. Ghost may have wanted it for sympathetic reasons but that doesn't give her a get out of jail free card, her plans were just a big and she was a more immediate and dangerous threat while Burch seems quickly forgotten about

I’m not saying she isn't a villain, I'm just saying her plans aren't as evil but now I get why she's the main villain

I'm asking because there's no one on the said discussion thread with that name "Nate" entered there, sir.

Ngh93

Oh ok. Thank you for the clarification, sir.