As for antagonistic statuses, I finished watching the entire Tales of Arcadia trilogy in a week, and as it turns out, Morgana is not the overarching antagonist of the franchise, but rather the central antagonist. Therefore, she isn't a Bigger Bad nor a Big Bad.
Also, neither Gunmar nor Morando are the main antagonists of the franchise; they would be the secondary antagonists because Morgana used Gunmar as a pawn so she could cause the Eternal Night, while her actions helped Morando get Gaylen's Core. The real main antagonists and Big Bads of the franchise are Bellroc and Skrael, two sadistic entities responsible for the corruption of Morgana.
As for King Arthur/The Green Knight, I would say he is a major antagonist of the franchise because he's not the main antagonist of any of the installments, but is the central antagonist of Wizards, with Bellroc and Skrael being the two main antagonists of Wizards.
As for PE villains, Morgana clearly doesn't qualify anymore. Although Gunmar wanted genocide on mankind and Morgana was using him, Morgana genuinely had good intentions of freeing trollkind through the Eternal Night. She was ultimately corrupted and manipulated by Bellroc and Skrael, who were using her for their own plans. Her hatred for King Arthur consumed her, even with her god intentions, and in the end, she was redeemed and passed on to the afterlife with Merlin.
As for King Arthur, he's heinous enough to qualify because of his genocidal intent on all magical creatures and being the one who actually caused the War for the Surface Lands and not Morgana; thus, it was Arthur who indirectly caused Gunmar's birth, due to him raiding the innocent trolls' lands and them trying to fight him off. Although he claims that he's trying to protect Camelot, he's really a prejudiced, genocidal racist whose tragic backstory does not justify his actions, especially since he didn't want his soul to be saved. The only reason why he doesn't qualify as PE is because he was genuinely in love with Guinevere.
As for Bellroc and Skrael? I believe that they are PE. Although we don't know their origins, they are clearly sadistic entities who actively enjoy spreading pain and misery around them, so they have moral agency. They are also responsible for Morgana becoming the Eldritch Queen, which led to her wanting to unleash the Eternal Night. Being responsible for Morgana's corruption alone easily make them heinous enough to qualify because Morgana's villainous actions helped Morando find Gaylen's Core and almost doomed mankind through the Eternal Night, and they also corrupted King Arthur into becoming the Green Knight. Bellroc and Skrael's ultimate goal is to find and discover the Genesis Seals so that they could use them to shroud the planet Earth in darkness and destroy it as a result. Plus, they don't care about each other and their relationship only extends to partnership.
That s a long response and I do agree with you will get to change it to those especially since am now one of the only people that can edit Morgana's page. Yeah, you may have noticed I had to lock Morgana's page since it was inevitable the disqualifying categories would come that are true just like what happened with Bryce and Monty after 13 Reasons Why Season 3. yeah after the new revelations with Morgana there is no debate that she doesn't qualify. King Arthur could qualify though he may not be heinous enough as well as his love for Gwen, and Bellroc and Skrael yeah I agree they are Pure Evil. Though this kind of feels like another Bryce and Monty situation with Morgana with sudden redeeming traits after being written as Pure Evil, but oh well.
Also I want to hear your opinion on the show did you like it or not, I personally thought it was pretty good even if it had its issues.
Glad to hear that, and yes i do agree it was heartwarming along with many other parts of the show. Also i created Skrael and Bellroc and King Arthur (Tales of Arcadia)'s pages there currently one lines but i will expand them and you can help me if you want
I made a thread on Jester of chaos's message wall and talked with him about making a removal proposal for Morgana on August 21st, and he gave me the green light. I also discussed Skrael and Bellroc's PE status, saying that my only concern with it was that their story arc wasn't finished as they are still at large and are set to appear in the grand finale of the Tales of Arcadia franchise: a Netflix film called Rise of the Titans, so he recommended that I wait for the finale to propose them.
To be honest, I agree with him there, even though Skrael and Bellroc are heinous enough to qualify as PE, because even though their story arc is not finished yet, they come from a cartoon aimed at children. Their story arc not being over kinda concerned me while I was working on their proposal, but then I remembered the first time I proposed General Morando back in January 7th, 2019, and he was rejected because he's from children's media and his story arc wasn't finished by that time; while Morando was eventually approved, it was because his story arc was finished.
I expanded the history for Skrael and Bellroc and made a separate synopsis page for them. I'm also planning on expanding King Arthur's page afterwards.
Plus, I've recently made a removal proposal for Morgana, and it's ready for you to vote on whenever you're ready. I'm also planning to post a PE proposal for Skrael and Bellroc two weeks after the release of Rise of the Titans in 2021 if they still meet all the requirements.
Just because a person is a One-Man Army doesn't necassrily mean he/she can vanquish or be a bigger threat than a Master Manipulator. A One-Man Army might have brute strength and pugnacious urges and belligerent attitude. But a Master Manipulator has the proficiency with the most important part of the body. The one between the ears. He/she could lure the army into a trap or manipulate them into turning agaisnt themselves.
Hi there, hope you're doing well. Would you like to read this proposal I recently did and vote on it? It keeps amazing me how few votes I get when I do proposals on characters from franchises like the James Bond series, and in this case, the Jason Bourne series. You would think there'd be a decent amount of users who are into those franchises here, but apart from Vrack, there apparently aren't many others at all. Anyway, this guy is from the most recent Bourne movie, so if you're really not interested in that series, you don't have to feel pressured to do it, but if you have any at all, I could certainly use more votes.
Hi Misry. I hope you've been well lately. Sorry, I hate having to ask this, but if you have 10 to 15 minutes of free time today or tomorrow, could you vote on a PE Proposal I recently made here? I hoped I could accumulate a few more votes without having to go out of my way to ask since I didn't think the movie Equilibrium was too obscure, but apparently almost no one here knows it and is willing to check it out on their own, so once again, I'm struggling to gather enough for a consensus. Specifically, only one person has voted on it even though it's been over 2 whole days since it got posted, and it's deadline had to be extended by an extra day already because of that. Feel free to give your honest opinion; I just really need the votes.
I'm aware that PAMA was rejected in TV Tropes. I know I'm not a TV Tropes user, but I like to look at their CM cleanup forum so that I might have potential candidates for my proposals and see if they agree with this wiki or not. A lot of villains have been approved as CM/PE in both sites, but I still get your point. Also, when you refer to my talks, are you referring to this?