Hey, how's it been? I'm currently playing the game, practically had to, since it holds a lot of promise to its gameplay and graphics. Story wise, it isn't anything unique, you've got your Friday the 13th killer mixed in with standard horror cliches, some cult (this one revolving around American indigenous rituals) and of course, no horror genre would be complete without stupid, spoiled teens. This is a first time I've seen a slasher-style horror game being well executed, haven't finished it yet, so I'm hoping it will have a interesting conclusion and hopefully, replay value. What are your thoughts on this subject?
Sorry for the late reply. I'm playing it too. At first, I tought it was just another horror game cliche where annoying teens and jerks go to somewhere away from the civilization to use drugs and make sex, and finally some crazy serial killer would kill all of them. However, it was very different. I loved the fact that they put supernatural beings and STORY; the Wendigos. This is a game in Friday the 13th style that I can call interesting. And I also loved the choices options. I think the game should have dozens of alternate endings due to player choices.
From what I've read is that it has only three; bad, good and neutral, but how they end varies on player's choices. If I had to nitpick a few things, it would be their expressions. Yes, the game looks beautiful, but some of their expressions, mostly the smiles, look really forced. Kind of reminds me of G Man's deformed character model. The deer fetish was a bit too much. I myself ended up choosing options that chained events with jumpscaring deers. I don't know if my game glitches, but sometimes the audio is out of sync when a jumpscare occurs. The recaps are a bit unnecessary every half hour throughout the game.
From what I've noticed so far, there are apparently two antagonists, right?
While we're talking, I just let Jessica die, of f*ck.... I believe with this failure, I need to sacrifice some things to have a better ending. Yes, the environment, including the voice acting is perfect, I don't see any bug until now. Also, I think the game adapt to the worst fears of the player. For example, in some parts of the game, you're in an office with a doctor who appears to be "insane" and asks to about your worst fears. The creator of the game had the pleasure in studying the player to create a more intimidating and scary game.
Yes, there is actually a single primary antagonist and "secondary antagonists". The primary seems to be a psychopath who was released of an asylum, he must have some connection with the protagonist, and somehow he hates Hannah and Beth. And the secondary are creatures that I still do not understand the reason of their existence, they are called Wendigos, in the past they were humans, however, they ate human flesh (cannibalism) and became something similar like demons.
A wiki info states that you can finish the game with all eight of them alive, I might try that once I get through this one first. And yes, the psychiatrist (I don't know his actor, but the most memorable role I've seen him play is a mob boss in Prison Break) sort of adapts the setting according to your fears, but I believe it's all either a distant memory, a fictional world inside someone's head or an in-game setting to intimidate the player.
I know about Wendigo from native American religions, but as of yet, I have no clue how they fit in to the story. I'm still in the early phases of the game or somewhere in the middle, not exactly sure. At first I thought that it had something to do with the pyromaniac, I thought he was wearing heat vision goggles, but now I'm not sure.
The doctor officer is non-part from the original universe. Its just like a mini game, such as Plushtrap game in FNAF 4. I think the game has some source of supernatural or satanism rituals, or maybe the game is taking part of the Wendigo legend.
I'm also curious about the guy on the beginning, he is the psycho killer?
I hope the psychiatrist story somehow interconnects with the rest of it. I have no idea about the pyromaniac, but there's another one with a horrifying mask in a Jason-style kind of way that's lurking around the Washington grounds. In a totem vision, he's seen attacking the group from the shadows. You up for making pages about them when we finish up the game, if somebody doesn't beat us to it.
I will make psychopath page here if possible. And possibly I will make the pyromaniac page too, but I have the impression that the insane guy and the pyromaniac are the same person; the message on the phone of the police officer was sent before Beth and Hannah's death. And about the Wendigo, there is more than one Wendigo.
Guess I'll find out eventually, haven't played that much, literally got it the day before you messaged me. What fears did you choose when the doc analyzed your character? Also, is the antagonist a pedo? I mean, he did say that he waited for the girls these past 16 years.
I have a bit of arachnophobia, but this happens only with larger spiders. And also I'm incredibly impressed by them create a useless character. Emily is only an unfortunate who betrays the people in the back, she always wants to be in the spotlight, always think she's right, she wants us to do to the impossible for her own profit, never does anything we choose, think everyone should obey her, she think she is superior to others, she does nothing but yell at others, she is a spoiled wh*re brat.
Man I swear to you, when I played with her characters on the mines, I DO NOT pressed any buttons in the sequences of buttons; I simply said, "I hope you die a painful death, but before you die, I'll make you suffer". At some point I thought that this game was trolling me; they just make the most miserable character of this game immortal, she was untouchable!
I let her fall all the time, I took her to her death of purpose. I'm was disgusted playing with her, she makes me sacrifice Matt (one o the most good characters) to save (I should let her fall with the tower OMG). She is the worst female character I've ever seen in the history of videogames. When she her death I was laughing hard and I felt like I'd completed the game.
Same here with arachnophobia, but only with larger ones as well. I mean, does things can kill in a second.
That's a bit too much from you. A lot of media tends to kill off more favorable characters and have you stick with the ones you like the least or more accurately, despise. Just look at The Walking Dead. The writers for the show have stated that they intend to kill off a character as soon as the group starts to feel safe in the post-apocalyptic world they roam. Hershel Greene was the voice of reason behind the group, aiding them and providing support wherever it was needed. Though, I might just be overthinking this scenario.
As for whether or not you could have kept him alive, I'm not sure at this point, but I'll have a look at it once I'm done with this playthrough.
I really think that keeping the most useless character of all media is very cliche. Many of these characters are women (I'm not trying to be cruel but it is very true) who constantly did nothing but sacrifice other characters to save them, I've seen several horror movies with this type system. But this happens only in old horror movies, in that time, kill children or women in horror films was taboo, and because of that, they meant to be the weakest characters of the movie.
One of the few characters in TWD that is important to the group is Daryl, if not the most popular and useful of all.
What part are you in game? If you already arrived where I'm we can discuss the identity of the "killer", which is not really a "killer", but a jerk.
Let's not, I'm probably an hour or two behind at the moment, I'll see to catch up later tonight and we could discuss a little more about the character. Does it get revealed who he is? And if so, was the reveal and the build up worth it?
IDK about you, but the game feels to me like a bundle of all sorts of horror elements in one. At one point, you've got the Saw, Jason-like killer, Predator, the ring girl during the ouija board (did you spot her appearing behind Ashley during their game?), etc.
Oh, that. I think that part was probably the use of supernatural content. The only of the sisters turned in a Wendigo was Hannah. I think that moment was a real supernatural moment, because Beth is who was there.
There was only two choices, drop Hannah, or fall together. So it was impossible.
There is the supposed theory that Hannah would have survived and turned into a Wendigo later, I just do not know how she became one. At some point of the game, you can see Hannah's tatto in one of the wendigos, indicating that she survived the fall. Beth's head was also found at the mine, which indicates she died for good and she become spirit, you can see this upon spirit board.
If you haven't gotten to the big reveal yet, I suggest you skip this p.m.
You know, to be honest, even though in my playthrough I chose to save Ashley over Josh, I was still convinced that he was behind the mask, and I was completely right, after investing yourself into this genre for a while, you get how things work. I mean, it was heavily implied from the start. Josh was the one who insisted for them to come back up to the mountains and who besides him would have access to everything on the property. It definitely would have been a waste if it was anyone else but him. But after the reveal, I started feeling sorry for him, it was sad in my opinion. What's weirder to me is that the doc was real all along, in a away.
The "hold the controller still" function is, at least for me, completely broken. Every time it pops up on the screen I don't even flinch and yet I still somehow mess it up. I think I only got three of them right and that was at the very beginning of the game.
Also, would you mind adding all possible categories to Josh's page since I'm not familiar with every one of them? And given that you've played the game as well as me, you should know his persona quite well by know. I'll expand on his story in just a bit, I'll write it on my own so that it doesn't clash with the one on the game's official wiki.
Josh mentions something like "sweet revenge" when he revealed himself. I do not know if I forgot something happened in his past to make him to do a such monstrous to his own friends? Also, I think the Josh page in this wiki is better as the Psycho since this a mega-spoiler.
I agree on the page naming. Well, they did sort of start a chain of events that ultimately lead to his sisters' deaths. And although that's not excusable in any sort of way, he obviously couldn't cope with the loss, so he found himself a scapegoat and after completing his year long plan, Josh went completely nuts.
Hannah survived the fall but broke her leg and was trapped in the mines. After burying her dead sister she spent days in the mines waiting for help. Driven by hunger, she dug out her dead sister to survive and ate of her death corpse. As the Wendigo curse comes over those who resort to cannibalism in the mountains, Hannha became a Wendigo
Definitely disturbing. The man you see in the movie that can be found in the projector and mentioned throughout the course of the story within findable clues was a miner trapped in a cave in. After being rescued, it was discovered that he resorted to cannibalism to survive and started to slowly turn into a Wendigo. Eventually, he was experimented on and given human flesh to sustain himself, ultimately becoming a full Wendigo and going on a killing spree, before freeing the remaining Wendigos that were trapped within the mountain's mines. The stranger up in the mountains was the only one aware of this and continued to wipe them out before his immanent death.
Hey buddy, I just came to say that you have a good New Year and a happy 2015 and thank you for all the help you gave me in this year on Outlast and Akame Ga Kill! categories. I really enjoyed it and feel it could not have completed these two missions without your help. Really thank you for your support :)
Personally, I'd prefer Evil Within over Alien: Isolation. Both have similar critical rankings. In Alien, you have a lot more space related theme, most of it is similarly designed as the original Alien movie and you've pretty much have a clear objective, to outlast the giant lizard. Additionally, you can scavenge and craft useful gadgets and equipment to help you proceed with the gameplay. Often you have to retrieve something for others and everyone is your enemy, including humans. But the game is a bit slow paced, since you don't have enough means to fight of cyborgs and humans, let alone a giant alien. However, in Evil Within, you have more of a darker atmosphere that is shrouded in mystery and lots of brutality. But like I've said, the game is a bit over the edge, as it throws you right into the gore without any kind of build up, it's fast paced, tends to look like an action movie at some points, rather than a horror game. That's what I have for now, still haven't gotten far in Evil Within. Hope this helps a bit with your decision.
Evil Within sounds better at extremely high gore and also the insane ability of the game. I would say that terror psychological is rather than scientific terror, I think I'll buy Evil Within, thanks for the help.
Yea, but upgrading running is the least bit important here, you wanna focus on power-ups for more damage and such. Though, I wish we could take the traps with us and place them again, for a more stealthier approach.
BTW, take away the chainsaw and the guy looks like Chris Walker from Outlast. A Fat brute with a thirst for brutality.
Hahaha, I totally agree, this camera almost screwed me when that monster 8 arm come from inside of the body of that dead person on the floor in the middle of an operating room. God, was one of the scariest scenes I've ever witnessed in horror games.
I really loved the graphic, including the sound, however, I have to confess that I would rather have downloaded for PS3, although the graphics of the PS3 console being inferior to the PC, I like the control of the console, I really I suck at playing in keyboard, I always end up doing stupid things. lol
The game was intended for a controller, so it would be for the best. Though, this is one of the few games I appreciate for the graphics themselves. What I mostly want from a game is to contain a decent and memorable gameplay for me to enjoy. You'd be surprised how many games lack this these days.
I'm really quite picky with games mainly for console and PC. The more game looks incredible, more I demand more of it, for example, I worry more about the story and gameplay, I really hate people that define the game through of the graphics, however, I also demand the graphics, they do not need to be perfect, but normal enough to at least let me ease.
Agreed, though most of them attempt to lure buyers with a simple look of the game, not the gameplay itself. This is also why studios use animation for trailers instead of actual gameplay. The Assassins Creed III had you believing that you could fight amid the battlefield, when in really you would simply be standing on the side lines and pressing some commands until the battle was over.
In fact, the more they makes the game look epic, most the buyers require the game to be great. For example, Minecraft was a game that had no story, much less graphics and gameplay, but people liked it because it seemed to be simple and appeared to be just passing time. When the company cares more about the graphics, more gameplay out a failure, these days people think the graphics make the most of the game without really care about the story and gameplay.
Have you by any chance seen how PES and FIFA advertise their latest games? It goes like this:"More hair, move eye movement, grass and dirt stick to shoes, rim bounces when you hit it...", no really, this is exactly how they advertised it, no gameplay, same shit, just bigger graphics.
The glitches involving immortality are the worst of all. Once I was playing on a server of the BO2 when I joined one server which had 4 hackers using Killstream all the time, I killed them 8 times in the match, so we entered the lobby, they put a hacker on my name and changed to " I suck cock". Worse than profiteers of glitches are hackers.
Now that I think more about it, I can now say with 100% that Evil Within was a better choice than Alien: Isolation. Both have their perks, but personally, Alien is not for me, it takes too long to complete, mostly because the player drags out the game, due to constant hiding, running, etc. Though, Evil Within has its disadvantages, apart from the camera, you can't melee kill anything nor anyone, you can slowly knock them back, but that's it. I also dislike that, since you're already carrying a knife, you can't use it for anything else aside from surprise attacks and yet that's infinite while something much more heavier, like an axe, gets destroyed after a single use.
On issues of weapons and ammo I think Alien: Isolation has the most weapons and has much more prolonged use and better on this occasion, The Evil Within is more like hardcore, is a type of game where everything is hard, most of the time you have to survive instead to use your weapons to kill, and also kills a crowd of zombies with too little ammo and weapons. In Alien: Isolation you have much more chances to survive by hiding in various places.
Forget to mention that traps tend to be awful, most of the times you don't know where it would be activated and you pretty much never get to be in-sync with them, unless you're playing for the second time around. The hiding mechanism as well, it's of no use, unless you're playing on a higher difficulty.
I try to use these traps against the zombies, but it is almost impossible, the pumps is at 2 meters from me anyway it makes me to pieces and I always forget that there are bombs in chests and always end up dying.
On the question of weapons Alien: Isolation and The Evil Within, I would say that Alien: Isolation is the type Many weapons, too few enemies, and The Evil Within is Few weapons, too much enemies, in weapons question I prefer Alien: Isolation.
I'd say The Evil Within is similar to The Last of Us in almost everything, and one thing I hated a bit was the save, I want to save the game as fast as possible, but always happen scary in my mind when I going to save, I could save in just 10 seconds, the game takes me 2 minutes to save, I would go straight to the point, instead of saving, I take a great scares.
Currently, The Evil Within and Alien Isolation are the major horror games. Any news of the next horror games? I'm already saving my money for the next game and I would like to know more about the next game to decide without regret.
What I'm really hoping to get as soon as possible is Silent Hills, that series is so awesome. I've played the demo, dubbed as P.T., and I felt like I was playing a horror game for the first, I simply did not know what to expect. I strongly recommend you get this if you get the chance, this is being build by the pros.
Another one I recommend is SOMA, it looks really good from what I've seen and it's from the creators of Amnesia: The Dark Descent. They include a lot of philosophy in their games, so the story will most definitely be compelling, I assure you, unless it turns out like Amnesia: A Machine for Pigs.
Additional ones I took a quick pic at:
Call of Cthulhu
Dead Island 2
Fatal Frame V
Killing Floor 2
Let it Die
And many more
The ones I listed are good to take a close look, they do seem interesting from the standard view point. Hope this helps.
OMG!! I WILL SEE IT NOW. You do not need me to choose for you, you can either you want is not yet here on Wiki. Ah Furthermore you can add up the members of the Night Raid here too, they are all Anti-Villains and Anti Heroes, they can stay like Akame.
Najenda massacred other villages with Esdeath outside the capital, she only left the empire when she saw what Esdeath made in a village, making her soldiers, kill and rape innocent people in the village and also setting fire in the village and made the leaders of the village watch everything.
Now that I've finished the game, I can honestly say that I majorly screwed up by telling you to get Evil Within. It's a good game, but damn, Alien: Isolation is pure awesomeness and way better when compered to Evil Within.
Not to mention glitches, saw this one where Joseph got his head pierced with an arrow and stayed like that for a while. Also deaths, if you're close to a wall, you'll glitch into it our out of the map.
Finally I completed The Evil Within, took longer than I thought. Dude I really loved, I feel as could become insane with this game so much madness and confusion that I spent on it. Comparing to Alien: Isolation and The Evil Within, I would say that the terror of Evil Within is much heavier and much gore as Alien: Isolation, Alien is more like scientific terror in a simple level. But I still think Outlast is much scariest horror. The horror from Outlast is terror based on reality with scientific terror and psychological horror.
My personal preference is psychological horror. Ever read a Steven King novel or at least watch one of movie adaptions of them? The guy knows how to pull of an insane psychological story without showing a drop of blood. Now that's genius.
Yes, i already watch the adaptations of movies, Carrie, Children of Corn, It, are my favorites, but Stephen King's terror is just psychological horror while some typical horror movies use gore as a way to increase more brutality.
Personally not that big of a fan of simple gore, when somebody just tries to shove 50 litters of blood and body parts in their work and call it horror. To me, psychological horror stories can leave a long lasting mark on you without showing a drop of blood, psychotic disturbance was always more frightening for me. Basically, it's unpredictable.
Have you ever watched Higurashi no Naku Koro Ni? That anime was one of the best horror anime I've ever watched, the psychological horror gave me chills even in real life, the anime had psychological horror gore but it was too extreme. Often I like gore when it is NEEDED, I hate that every time someone dies at every 1 second pouring over 80 liters of blood on the floor. Paranormal activity has no gore, and also is not psychological horror, but somehow still creepy.
I haven't but I'll watch it right away. Have you ever watched Shiki? If not, you've got to right now, it only has 24 episodes, 22 plus 2 that tell back stories. It's creepy as hell. It revolves around vampires, they're called Shiki here, meaning corpse demons or something.
Yes I watched months ago, the soundtrack are more creepy. I found it bizarre how the anime was suddenly surrounded in gore level hardcore in a little time and everything happened as if it were something more normal in the world, both humans and vampires killing like it's something so simple as breathing.
Because I accidentally created the Murkoff Corporation over the name of Jeremy, the page of Jeremy needs to be deleted to the original name is available so I can recreate his original page, so this is what I have to say, have a good night, and not do anything in that page.
That explains it. Also, not hating or anything, but you might want to work on your English a little bit, sometimes it's really hard to understand you. Again, don't mean any disrespect to you, just a friendly advice.
Not anti-heroes. For example, why is Patrick Star, a character from Sponge Bob considered a villain? I don't know if you watch an anime called Attack on Titan, but one of their protagonists, Levi, is marked as an antagonist on this wiki.
Dude, we had many problems because of this pages that you mentioned, I do not get involved in this mess, but I believe these pages remained in this wiki because these characters had also committing some acts of villains. Not all villains are necessarily antagonists.
True, one time I saw Sakura Haruno's page up here, her crime was punching the protagonist. What do you do when a villain becomes a good guy, do you just end their pages on that subject or do you keep on updating them with more info?
One more thing, thanks for create Frank Manera, I'm working on the Outlast villains category, if you look in my page you will see Outlast Project, but I need 20 pages to create the category, could you help me? Is just missing only 8 pages.
The only remaining pages that could be built, including Jeremy Blaire, are of Rudolf Wernicke, Murkoff's Security Forces and Martin Archimbaud. This makes 18 total, but you said you need 20 to make Outlast category, so what do you suggest we do?
The Walrider Machine count as villainous tool, and I was thinking about the Waylon Park, he was one of the Murkoff Corporation members. Oh one more thing, I can actually use the context of Outlast wiki? I'm going to recreate Jeremy now.
Name a single villainous act he's ever committed. Yes, he worked for Murkoff, but he was oblivious to their inhumanity before it was too late. After so, he risked his life to shut them down, and apparently succeeded.
The category is almost done, however, I think you better leave another message on my my message box. Some people of this wiki will confuse that pages with plagiarism, then it's best you leave an official message of a license from ADM from the Outlast Wiki.
From their interviews, they have nothing planned at this time. They would like to focus on other projects as well. They might one day decide to do something additional, which I myself am hoping to see, Outlast is one of my favorite horror games of all time.
Ever played Silent Hill? An excellent series if you're a horror gamer and even if you haven't, you've got to try their new P.T. (Playable Teaser), the graphics are phenomenal. It's available at PSN for PS4.
Yes I already played Silent Hill, a few days ago they released a demo of the new game in the saga for ps4 version, is amazing, the graphics are very personalized, sound effects and including the story with Norman Reedeus.
Me too, hope it's worth all the hype. What did you think about Among the Sleep, if you've seen it or played it? The one with the mind of a 2 year old child, how he experiences the world when frightened.
I played it, for the first time in the history of the games they had a child die, I just can not understand the end, I know that the mother was an alcoholic, I just do not understand what happened at the very end, I thought the baby had died and went to heaven.
No, that's not it, the mother did represent the monster, while the Teddy bear was his father, he comes at the very beginning of the game when the mother takes the child away. The father returns at the very end entering into the house, when the kid finds his mother drunk in the kitchen. It's sort of tragic and sad to see something like that.