1. Did some updating on Satoru Akefu's page regarding the latest chapter. Seeing how you did some good-sized editing on it yourself, feel free to help on it a bit, if ya feel like it.
2. Do you plan to make a page for Tooru to join the trio of main antagonists in JoJolion in having pages? If so, perhaps we could consider doing more than that and perhaps work up more JoJo pages for those who don't have any. Already made two for Gwess and Johngalli A a few days back due to me starting on reading Stone Ocean, and it could be nice to help chop the work load up.
I see. I've just catched up to the latest JJL chapter just yet and I will edit the page I find any need to do so. Thanks for the update btw.
Sure thing, bro. I'm currently planning to add a page of Kaato Higashikata any time later but Tooru is also in my personal consideration, only after that. Still, I'll add more villains from Jojo on this wiki if I'm prepared to make proper pages, starting with Jojolion villains before Steel Ball Run villains.
P.S. I know these three are sharing the position as JJL's main antagonists for now, but I currently have a feeling that Tooru will develop into the story's sole main antagonist & final boss by the final battle, with Satoru/Wonder of U serving as the secondary antagonist.
On the other hand, I guess Jobin might become more of the story's central antagonist, though he might ended up like Akira Otoishi, Diego Brando (the original one) & Risotto Nero to become a Disc-One Final Boss (if there's nobody like Diego from Another World popping up this time), but it's only my personal theory and speculation.
Yeah, agree on Tooru's and Satoru's placement as mains and secondary antagonists, with Jobin acting as its Diego of sorts. As for Kaato, I hope personally she appears later on in a bonus chapter like AW Diego as the final antagonist Josuke fights, to finally reap on her missed potentinal overall.
I made some minor adjustments to the Eremiya page(brainwashed can't be a mastermind).
Do you plan to do Legion/Roro and Clarissa pages as well? Also should Legion/Roro count as tragic, the same doesn't treat him as sympathetic unlike the other assassins, but he was kidnapped and raised as a pawn.
Also funfact Eremiya being brainwashed was widely hated by fans, a popular FE LPer, who was beforehan defending the remake exclusive plotline, even said the reveal ruined the whole sideplot for him. Basically she was written as a pure evil character who did horrible, horrible things no other villain did, but then literally on the game's second last level, its revealed with zero foreshadowing she was under mind control the whole time.
Don't you hate it when that happens? I'm not one to treat Pure Evil as a badge of honor, but simply saying a character was brainwashed for their entire time on screen out of the blue is poor writing.
I see. Thanks for the adjustment, and I will add Legion and Clarissa all in good time.
I was actually unaware the backlash against the revelation that Eremiya was brainwashed by Gharnef to be a villain, but I share your opinion about this twist. Surely, after showing a load of time of how ruthless and heartless Eremiya was, I guess it'll be better to at least give some foreshadowing of Gharnef's influence upon her villainy (rather than simple brainwash, but more corrupting influence), or show her as a non-brainwashed, flat-out minion for Gharnef with her free will, or at least as someone non-brainwashed and completely unrelated to Gharnef's scheme at all, would be much better executed than just saying she was a nice person before, just brainwashed.
Sure thing, I guess you've got a point there. Such "redeeming quality" out of nowhere will ruin an originally well-written and unique villain like Eremiya (no matter if they're qualified as PE or not), and I've seen something even worse to let some formerly irredeemable villains an abrupt and absurd reason to redeem themselves, to the point of even letting them to escape comeuppance because of that (e.g. Shadow King from Legion TV series).
In addition, this reminds me of Fire Emblem: Three Houses, of Edelgard's polarizing reception as a character (whilst she is not a PE and being indeed a tragic character from the beginning). I personally considered Edelgard in Crimson Flower route, except her heartwarming support with some characters like Lystheia which are well-written, gives me the same abrupt feeling in the main story, due to the route's narrative made her an anti-hero whilst keeping her war crimes justified (she is loosely modeled after Rudolf after all). Despite her lamenting her loss, she never really change or reevaluate her motives and hypocritically blamed Rhea/Seiros for Volkhard's crimes and saying the Church had been killing innocent people, unlike Dimitri in Azure Moon who eventually realized what kind of monster he nearly became and decided to change in and out.
In fact, I find Edelgard in Azure Moon chapters being better written (or more precisely, the best-written and most fleshed-out version of her character) due to being its anti-villainous main antagonist until the end, and she's implied to have a genuiue change of heart when she allowed Dimitri to kill her instead of spare her.
Here's one popular LPer demoaning the twist, Eremiya's brainwashing doesn't even match up with the other brainwashed person in the game(Hardin) and her going from loving children to enjoying their suffering really makes no sense. Its like they threw it in last minute for cheap and unearned angst.
I haven't seen Shadow King, but I'll check it out.
Agreed on Edelgard.
BTW do you plan to write a (Mystery of the Emblem)Hardin article too?
Sure thing, anytime. As long as I have prepared enough, I'll write pages for Legion, Carissa and Hardin, too. Hmm, in a way, Hardin is much better written than Eremiya as a truly sympathetic and tragic fallen hero with a much more reasonable explanation of his fall from grace and brainwash.
Since you're on the Pure Evil proposal for Hitman, here's some people I think deserve that title.
Mr Giggles: A circus owner who runs gladiator fights and animal mutilation purely for the sake of depravity. He tortures and murders animals and is strongly implied to do the same with people.
Etta Davis: She is a nurse that's killed well over fifty people for the fun of it. She has no remorse for her actions and just wishes to cause as many deaths as possible.
Alvaro D'Alvade: One of the only targets in the series who directly abuses children, D'Alvade runs a child trafficking ring which he uses frequently. Unlike Richard Delehunt, who genuinely seems to love him, there is no evidence that D'Alvade feels the same way and it is likely he's using Delehunt to fulfil his own means, as Delehunt is a US ambassador to the vatican.
Malcolm Sturrock: He kidnapped, raped, mutilated, and murdered a young girl and possibly has done that with many others. Even if he isn't a main target, he's certainly one of the most evil of the characters.
Edward Wade: Duh.
Sorry for making requests, but I'm rather new to this site and I appreciate your help with the formatting you've done on the pages I've created.
Hmm... That's okay. I'll keep them on my list. I don't know if my next proposal about a villain would come from Hitman franchise since I do proposals about other stories as well, irregularly, but Wade and D'Alvade would highly possible to be the next ones on my list.
As for the rest of them, I'll check on them further, but it's obvious for me that they're all FAR above the standard villainy of the Hitman series so I think there's potential for them. Anyway, I'll make these proposals about as long as I really see them fit and I'm ready to write proper proposals.
Oops... Apologies. My bad. I thought it was kind of obvious judging from JJL's latest chapters that strongly implies Tooru's mental connection with Satoru (similar to Diablo and Doppio's connection, albeit not sharing the same body as of yet), and Jojo WIki had also labeled Tooru's stand is an unnamed humanoid Stand in the form of Satoru...
But if that's not officially comfirmed yet, I'll undo it ASAP and keep it that way until official confirming. I'm sorry that I added it with a rush since that implication had strongly surprised me. Sorry for my rash decisions.
Well, I'm personally and currently leaning towards the anti-villain side IMO. Not because of his alliance with Tekkadan marks his betrayal to those of his closed ones (which is already inevitable), but because his motive was to make Tekkadan to be relied on him and his ambition.
In addition to that, McGillis is willing to sacrifice his own best friends to reform Gjallarhor. He does have noble and sympathetic intentions but in a way, it has terms of self-serving objective inside.