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  • Well, I decided to quit. Closing the account. It's been made kinda clear that I am not the best user that walked the earth. I walked into countless arguments, for better or worse. Got some pages locked (cough Afton cough) and all that jazz.

    This wiki was really the only thing I had when it comes to FANDOM. I didn't find any other wiki interesting enough. There was one, the Evil Wiki, but one of the admins, B1bl1kal, was just... I made some changes to Freddy Fazbear's Pizza, deleted the fake images, made it up-to-date by adding the newer games, added new information. And for some reason, he called it vandalism. Didn't bother to explain why and how it was vandalism. Just said "enough" and that's it. Christ, and Sirin calls themselves an admin with bad temper. B1bl1kal even banned me on the Heroism Wiki, although I did close to nothing on it, and if I did, it was pretty helpful, just giving more examples. When I backtalked to him, he said it was "trollish", although I just pointed something out.

    That doesn't really mean the experience was awful, though. There was actually great and nice people here, such as Slenderminion.

    I don't actually dislike anyone here (except B1bl1kal), so forget me if I ever seemed like it.

    Everyone, it was a great time here. I'm gonna miss this place. Goodbye, and I wish you a good time here.



    Unless you're B1bl1kal, if so, then fuck you.

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  • and if i did it then i was most likely arguing with someone, are they blocked too

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    • The reason you were blocked is continuing to edit war over William Afton's status as Deceased or Presumed Deceased despite it already being agreed upon by the admins and several warnings you got.

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  • One I fully agree with you for why you want to remove Bill Cipher and Chucky from pure evil. I don't agree with them counting ether. 

    Secondly on these polls who would you vote for? 

    https://villains.fandom.com/f/p/4400000000000001460

    https://villains.fandom.com/f/p/4400000000000001511

    https://villains.fandom.com/f/p/4400000000000001443

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  • Okay, it seems you're really confused as to the Animator vs. Animation storyline and everything.

    The Chosen One and Dark Lord caused mass destruction online, but they haven't caused any genocide or cataclysm. The Dark Lord developed ViraBot to do so, but it hasn't happened yet. The scene where the Chosen One is envisioning the Dark Lord with its ViraBot army is it thinking about what will occur if the Dark Lord succeeds with ViraBot. These things have not happened yet.

    Additionally, as the shorts are still ongoing, we don't know if the Chosen One is the main protagonist or if that role is staying with the Second Coming. We need to wait and see.

    Third, the Second Coming is NOT the Chosen One. He has the same abilities and is more or less a reincarnation, but because the Chosen One is still alive, they are two different characters.

    Again, I think you're just confused. Hope this helps clarify things.

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    • btw, do you think The Dark Lord and the Killer Bunny are PE?

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    • No for the Killer Bunny; offscreen villainy and too enigmatic.

      The Dark Lord... maybe? It hasn’t done enough to pass the heinous standard yet, but if it gets worse in future installments, an argument could be made for its qualification.

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  • It is true that Dark Lord is the darkest villain in AVA.

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    • Ordeaux26 wrote:
      Sorry to barge in on this conversation but I do really want to say this but isn't every character in Animator Vs. Animation either Made of Evil or Made of Good, except for the Animator himself, since they are all creations of the Animator and The Dark Lord was created specifically to be evil. There may be something I am missing since I am not super familiar with the series but I just thought I would bring it.

      only Victim and Chosen One were created to be evil, Dark Lord was only created to defeat Chosen One and Second Coming was not created to come to life.

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    • Ok thanks for clarfying

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  • So I've seen your Pure Evil Proposals menu and decided to review some of them myself. I can't vote in PE proposals, but I decided to do this for fun, and to prepare if those characters do manage to get proposals.

    King Dice: He's only running the evil casino and following the Devil's orders. His motivations never go beyond loyalty for his boss.

    Water Street Butcher: I agree that he's Pure Evil, he's a serial killer and snuff filmer who abducted an innocent girl and tortured her into becoming his slave and accomplice.

    Piella Bakewell: Being overweight (and turning evil because of it) doesn't take away the fact that she's a serial killer whose crimes are dark even by Wallace and Gromit's standards. If a comedic villain commits horrific crimes that are taken seriously, they can qualify as Pure Evil.

    Funtime Freddy and Bon-Bon: Both of them are robots created to kill, and their personalities are defined by their programming, nothing more. (Plus, Bon-Bon is the saner one who soothes Freddy.) As psychotic as Funtime Freddy is, he has no moral agency since he is programmed to be an entertainer who does not understand that he is killing people.

    Chucky: Although he cares about Tiffany, it doesn't improve his own morality nor make any part of him sympathetic. The quality he loves about her most is their mutual bloodlust anyway.

    Avon Hertz: Like Chucky, caring about his AI creation Cliffford doesn't make him a better person nor excuse his crimes, and he created him in the first place to exterminate humanity. What would he do with Cliffford if he got his way?

    Frank Morrison: I created his page in the first place to elaborate on his influence towards his gang, The Legion, but as much as I consider him to be unsympathetic and evil, Frank is only a manipulator and psychopath at his worst, and he fails the heinous standards as The Clown and The Doctor are more openly sadistic, depraved and had a higher kill count than him prior to joining The Entity.

    Dark Lord: Sure, he did massacre the internet to the point where the Chosen One was shocked by his crimes, but it pales compared to the Animator torturing and enslaving stick figures. I see him as more of a tragic villain since he went mad upon realizing that the Animator is apathetic towards his own creations (prior to his epiphany and redemption through the Second Coming and his friends), and wanted revenge on him first and foremost. Actually, I won't be so sure until the Dark Lord gets elaborated on further.

    Killer Bunny: As intelligent as it is, it's an animal (technically a Minecraft mob) who just wants to hunt for prey, even if it is a cannibal. It has no other personality traits besides its obsession with meat.

    May do the others later, I'm just doing the ones I understand most.

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    • "He's only running the evil casino and following the Devil's orders. His motivations never go beyond loyalty for his boss."



      We have seen them actually talk to eachother once. I don't think that's really enough.



      "If a comedic villain commits horrific crimes that are taken seriously, they can qualify as Pure Evil."



      Wait, really?



      "Both of them are robots created to kill, and their personalities are defined by their programming, nothing more. (Plus, Bon-Bon is the saner one who soothes Freddy.) As psychotic as Funtime Freddy is, he has no moral agency since he is programmed to be an entertainer who does not understand that he is killing people."

      Funtime Freddy has a moral agency, he's just not as aware as Ballora and Baby.



      "Although he cares about Tiffany, it doesn't improve his own morality nor make any part of him sympathetic."



      No matter what, if a villain actually cares/loves someone, and it isn't being perverted/obsessed, they can't qualify.



      "Like Chucky, caring about his AI creation Cliffford doesn't make him a better person nor excuse his crimes, and he created him in the first place to exterminate humanity."



      Same thing as Chucky/



      "What would he do with Cliffford if he got his way?"



      Cliffford actually turns against him at one point, and Avon started calling him "sir" and basically couldn't do nothing.



      "I created his page in the first place to elaborate on his influence towards his gang, The Legion, but as much as I consider him to be unsympathetic and evil, Frank is only a manipulator and psychopath at his worst, and he fails the heinous standards as The Clown and The Doctor are more openly sadistic, depraved and had a higher kill count than him prior to joining The Entity."



      Yeah, I guess you're right here, I need to think about this.



      "Sure, he did massacre the internet to the point where the Chosen One was shocked by his crimes, but it pales compared to the Animator torturing and enslaving stick figures."



      There's a difference between torture/slavery and outright mass murder and world-destroying. Which is worse?



      "I see him as more of a tragic villain since he went mad upon realizing that the Animator is apathetic towards his own creations (prior to his epiphany and redemption through the Second Coming and his friends), and wanted revenge on him first and foremost"



      He's far past it, it's no excuse for slaughtering your own kind.



      "As intelligent as it is, it's an animal (technically a Minecraft mob) who just wants to hunt for prey, even if it is a cannibal. It has no other personality traits besides its obsession with meat."



      TBH, yeah, but he shows moral agency and isn't a Generic Doomsday Villain.

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    • Alright, I apologise for my claims about Dark Lord, I remember when I listed his crimes as a Moral Event Horizon back on TV Tropes, saying it doesn't justify how he killed other stick figures. I just let my own "wrong because I just feel it" bias get the better of me and I am genuinely sorry about that. So now I agree that the Dark Lord has a spot, but he needs a bit more screen time in the future to cement his status.

      Let's reassess. King Dice is not Pure Evil because his main motivation is to gain the contracts of the renegade debtors, under his master's orders. He doesn't kill anyone, he doesn't torture anyone, he only gets Cuphead and Mugman to get the contracts back.

      Funtime Freddy is also not PE since being a delusional and psychotic killer is literally what he, as a robot, was created to do by William Afton. Freddy is like Auto from Wall-E, who doesn't understand human morality and only does what he is programmed to do, while his creator William is fully aware that he's killing, and he does so in order to perform experiments on souls. In short, Freddy fails the heinous standard compared to William Afton.

      The Killer Bunny is a sophisticated and intelligent trickster who hides his cannibalism, but he's no sadist or torturer, he's just a very smart predator. Plus since it's now agreed that the Dark Lord is Pure Evil, the Killer Bunny fails at the heinous standards since other villains are more destructive and homicidal than him.

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    • "I remember when I listed his crimes as a Moral Event Horizon back on TV Tropes"



      I'm actually the guy who edited them a few days ago.



      "So now I agree that the Dark Lord has a spot, but he needs a bit more screen time in the future to cement his status."



      Thankfully, he's returning in the next video, or at least the next AvA Short.



      "Let's reassess. King Dice is not Pure Evil because his main motivation is to gain the contracts of the renegade debtors, under his master's orders. He doesn't kill anyone, he doesn't torture anyone, he only gets Cuphead and Mugman to get the contracts back."



      Okay, I see your point. I still think he's worse than the Devil, the Devil is generic.



      "Funtime Freddy is also not PE since being a delusional and psychotic killer is literally what he, as a robot, was created to do by William Afton. Freddy is like Auto from Wall-E, who doesn't understand human morality and only does what he is programmed to do, while his creator William is fully aware that he's killing, and he does so in order to perform experiments on souls. In short, Freddy fails the heinous standard compared to William Afton."



      AI that was created to be evil can be PE if they have a moral agency, lack redeeming qualities and stand out on their own. FunFred does everything listed, and is arguably worse than Glitchtrap if Glitchy isn't Afton 3.



      "The Killer Bunny is a sophisticated and intelligent trickster who hides his cannibalism, but he's no sadist or torturer, he's just a very smart predator. Plus since it's now agreed that the Dark Lord is Pure Evil, the Killer Bunny fails at the heinous standards since other villains are more destructive and homicidal than him."



      He's arguably the second worse, as most are parodies, have redeeming qualities, or don't do enough. The Killer Bunny possibly wanted to destroy the entire world he lives in just to get rid of the Second Coming.

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  • Where are you getting the information about Bunny Call from?

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    • There was a post on Reddit, showing "Springtrap" is one of the most used words in Bunny Call. I'll try to find it.

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  • As explain in the epilogue of the partiality canon Fazbear’s Fright: 1:35AM, Remnant is the negative human emotion able to move inanimate objects such as the Animatronics, while in The Fourth Closet described it as behaving like a molten metal made from molten endoskeleton of the Classics able to be manipulated as such so long as it was kept at specific temperatures.

    In FFPS, Remnant acts as a sort of hive mind in order to make any Animatronics sentient and self aware. It goes on to mention that because of the remnant in his structure, Molten Freddy is essential in "Paragraph Four"

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  • only admins can remove deletion tags, don't remove them - doing so runs a block.

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  • you still remember this page, I want to ask some questions.

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    • Nightmare is one of the darkest villains in the fnaf or not, if so, why?

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    • He is amoral and in the Grey Zone, so I'm not really sure.

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