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  • Hi. I hope you're doing well. I hope this doesn't seem too random or out of the blue, but if you have at least 15 minutes of spare time, could you please vote on my PE proposal for Izamura? The work he's from is an anime film called Patema Inverted. Normally, I don't go out of my way to ask people to vote, because I want them to vote on their own accord and out of their own interest. However, in this case, barely anyone else here seems to be familar with this movie or character, because even after being up for 3 days, it still only has 1 vote as of the time of this writing, which isn't enough for a consensus, and I'm getting worried that there won't be one at this rate. Therefore, I've decided that after waiting patiently to no avail, I need to at least try going around asking several different people if they can vote since it might be the only way for my proposal to not be ignored and get a real verdict. If for some reason you really don't want to or can't, I'll understand, but if you can help me out, I'd really appreciate it, and I hope you find it to be worth your time. 

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    • BOT: Taigokumaru's PE proposal is out:

      https://villains.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Markim99/PE_Proposal:_Taigokumaru

      His main competition comes from Naraku and Hakudoshi. These two are worse, but they also have more resources. Compare to his resources, Taigo did some screwed-up things, namely killing his own son with glee just for not approving his wife and keeping his daughter in law alive just for carrying out his legacy. The proposal itself doesn't have the best structure, but when I checked up about Taigo, I remembered again why he's labeled as pure evil.

      1. "Naruto" sounds cool, but I never got too deep into it. I can discuss it with you whenever you like and fill the gaps with my common sense though. Same goes for the rest of the anime you mentioned, which many of them aren't expertise field. "Dragon Ball" universe can be cool at times, but the DBZ segment lost its purpose at the very minute Goku gave Cell the healing beans just to see who's more powerful. And the part in DBS where Goku let his guard off in the middle of a fight with Frieza, surrounded with henchmen who wished him all the harm in the universe, was idiocy from the kind you have to see to believe. Vegeta had to do Goku's whole point of existence instead of him. I must say I saw it coming years ago, but I wanted it to happen for legit reasons, not because Goku betrayed his life purpose.

      2. "I can comment that even without it seeing it, it falls firmly into the category of something I can respect, but not necessarily like". How poetic :-). Maybe this good movie could be better with another tragic villain as the protagonist. Joker isn't the first pick for a villain to sympathize. The good people could write him as a Koba, and show that society made him pure evil, just like the aforementioned Joker ape. By "almost entirely unsympathetic cast", you mean that they were just mean to everyone without any entertaining value, or mostly one-dimensional hate sinks? It's important to say that some settings have a really unsympathetic cast as a whole, yet not all of them are villains/meant to be hated.

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    • I'll check that proposal out, thanks. I don't know if my opinion would be super relevant since I only watched the first two seasons of Inuyasha, and therefore, I didn't see the episodes featuring this character. Plus aside from Naraku and what he does, I'm not sure exactly how high or low the bar is set by other comparably more minor antagonists. Most of the ones I saw weren't that bad, but there were at least one or two that stood out as pretty bad in their own right like Gatenmaru and Goshinki. I guess if the proposal isn't informative enough, I can just go by how Taigo compares to the other antagonists I've seen. As for discussing anime, if there's anything in particular you want to ask me about any of those series I like, go right ahead, and I'll happily answer the best that I can and when I can. 

      As for your question about what I said concerning that the Joker movie has an "almost entirely unsympathetic cast", what I meant was that, quite simply, going by what I know, most of them just don't seem like likeable or decent people in the slightest, and therefore, not the kinds of characters I can bring myself to sympathize or care about. And frankly, it doesn't matter how good a movie or show is otherwise; if I don't care about any of the characters, then I feel a sense of disconnection from the whole thing, because it doesn't really matters to me what happens to any of them. The way I see it, they're not the type of people I'd associate with in real life, especially in cases like this where they just don't seem like good people by any reasonable standard, so why should I be watching a film about them?

      And honestly, the problem for me isn't that they tried to put a sympathetic take on a villain like the Joker; it's just that, obviously, he's still not going to be entirely sympathetic since, regardless of what lead him to that point, he still descends into becoming a homicidal lunatic, but then you also have a bunch of characters who mostly just contribute in their own small ways to making him snap rather than making any honest effort to help him. In general, it just seems like one of those movies that's too focused on the ugly side of society and doesn't bother even trying to show any real kindness or goodness from anyone. And as films like Schindler's List prove, it's very much possible to include good people and the positive side of humanity in dark, unpleasant stories that are hard to swallow, which at least gives you something to truly hold onto.

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  • You know Fox, Owl and Snake are villains?

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    • I like How to Train Your Dragon.

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    • "Middle Earth" universe is epic. Check it out when you have the time. Now, I have a theory about HTTYD dragons:

      The dragons in HTTYD universe are all descendants of dinosaurs. First thing you see is the fact many dragons are looking more like dinosaurs than like dragons. Toothless, for example, was clearly evolved from microraptor. His wings structure (2 big wings on the sides, two little wings near the back legs and another two wings on in tail for balance), similarity to crows (people say it's like a dog/cat, but most of all, i see it as a giant crow with some dog and cat merged into it), arguably the most intelligent flying creature in the setting (unless you count Muddy Bewilderbeast as more intelligent due to being able to take over other dragons with more than just brute force) and talent to learn things are all leads to his ancestor. The Red Death must be evolved from ceratosaurus. Both have that bump in the nose (in ceratosaurus case, it was probably more bump than horn). And there's the slasher smile. The exact same slasher smile of the giant ceratosaurus from "Carnivores" series. You saw this creature see side-wise better than front-wise. That's a common trait among jurassic predators. Muddy Bewilderbeast is ceratopsian. Most likely a triceratops. The monstrous nightmare evolved from albertosaurus (narrow skull, serious bite force, every non-colossal dragon afraid of this creature). The deadly nadder evolved either from ceratosaurus or from one of the smaller dromaeosaurs. With the other dragons, look at them long enough and you might have your speculation about which dinosaur was their ansector.

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  • How many people have to die in order for it to count as mass murder?

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    • At least 10 people at the same time. Kevin Khatchadourian is a mass murderer for killing 12 people, 10 if them are his classmates at the same killing spree. It's kinda complicated, but as far as I know, non of the killers in "Scream" is a mass murderer. Not even Kieran.

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  • https://villains.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:ScaryMovie53/PE_proposal_-_Ilosovic_Stayne

    Is all of this true? Because I remember watching this movie a few times, and I don't remember him doing any of that.

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  • How are you? :) 

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    • Do you have a vote?

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  • Do you watch 13 Reasons Why?

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    • That, and she was responsible for the bungled redemption arcs lol.

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    • Man :-(. Now I have a good reason to refrain from watching it again. Since Ani is a meta-destroyer, I believe the writers had an unethical reason to cast her actress and give her too prominent role.

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  • Okay look, Audrey is NOT a psychopath, she still has care for certain people, showed remourse for her actions and was pushed to villainy through insecurities. Furthermore she's not a fallen hero as she has always been a morally sketchy character and has been villainous in nearly every single instalment she was featured in

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    • How is college these days? Perhaps there's a relief?

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  • Can you Please help me expand the Third Killer?

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    • 1. You're recommending doing a public opinion blog, where I ask people if Haley should be in the villains wiki? Good thinking :-). I personally believe that if she did know, she would've take Kieran's secret to her literal grave. Yes. She hate Emma that much.

      2. Agree. He's the kind of man that only a mother can love. Now, here's the next topic: As said a long time before, I have an idea for rebooting Scream's cinematic universe. Donald gave me the idea of casting the new generation of actors and actresses. Should I write is as a fanfic on its own right, or as information about cast and differences from the original?

      3. When she killed Debbie, her expression was "she killed Randy and I got a little gun happy". A cold "go to hell!" face shows more hate than a gloating smile to the face of your dead assailant. Now doubt she had every reason to hate Jill though. I do believe Jill is the worst of the cinematic killers. Despite what she said about her own mother, her real motive was feeling neglected. She felt like her mother loved Sidney better, which explain the depths of the hatred and her phrase "you were always so fucking special!". Roman and Piper did had better reasons, because "my mother didn't loved me" is a better motive than "my mother loved you better". Also, as much as we both hate Beth, I must admit that being the most repulsive doesn't make her more evil than Roman and Jill. Roman is more vile because of how deep his hatred goes. Sometimes, hating someone because he was born makes a certain villain worse than a villain who just want you dead for mundane selfish reasons. Jill is more vile because of her villainous potential and vision (she could've become Sofia Lamb, while Beth will either stay a serial killer or get back to life, believing she proved herself), the scale of betrayal (Jill had many people who truly loved her, while Beth only had one true friend, and i doubt her parents care about her too much) and washing people's mind completely (Beth succeeded to an extent). If you're familiar with Harry Potter, think of Beth as Dolores Umbridge and about Jill/Roman/maybe Piper and Kieran as Lord Voldemort. Know what I mean?

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    • P.S: I've found a wiki in the making you might like.

      https://unpublished-villains.fandom.com/wiki/Unpublished_Villains_Wiki

      It's about villains who never made it to the official confirmed canon. You can add the pre-retcon Audrey.

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  • I didn't see the PE blog proposal post...

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    • 1. Agreed. That was the reason Leon turned down her advances. Because there's only so much time one can spend with a burden. Did you happen to play the remake version of the original first two games?

      2. That's strong stuff :-). People should remember this sentence more often. Also, here are my main points of change for the rebooted JP3:

      Spino-Rex - His status as a hybrid will be more clear. His motive will be better than just a ravenous hybrid, and overall more like I-Rex than like himself. A youtuber named Clayton Fioriti made a video about the possibility there was more than one Spino-Rex, and the unhinged one we seen killing the t-rex and chasing the characters was avenging his dead mate (the one who got the airplane to the face). His superpowers will be more than bad writing, and he'll be killed on-screen. Maybe by the genius raptors, like one of the drafts wanted. If not the raptors, Tembo and Grant can kill him together.

      Amanda and Paul - Saving their son is very nice of them, but the reason he got there in the first place was their own fault. The real miracle is not surviving two months without them. it's surviving 13 years with them. Instead of getting to the island because his parents are too dumb to live, he'll be abducted by criminals who'll try to extort his parents, but got stuck in Isla Sorna. Eventually he will escape and hiding from both the remaining criminals and from predators.

      Grant - he won't be the raptor-obsessed broken man he was in the canon. His character decay was a major reason for why this movie was just good (at best) rather than awesome as the other 4. In the likely case of using Tembo, his motive will be saving the boy. Him and Grant might get well together. For Tembo, "Grant is a male Sarah minus the ideals taking over her brain". For Grant, "Tembo is Muldoon's second chance in life".

      Billy Brennan - Taking the raptors egg was one of the most stupid decisions in the franchise. It can make sense only if he was more devious than the movie gives him credit for. In my version, he'll do it for the main human antagonist, who'll try to create a secret police of genius raptors.

      The main human antagonist - Either the leader of the remaining criminals, a complete psychopath who killed some of his comrades for self consumption and luring the carnivores away, Dodgson (he might be one of the criminals. Not contradicting), Jeff Rossiter (Dodgson's technical boss from the original second novel. Someone on the villains fanon wiki had an interesting idea about it) or one of the scientist who worked with Doctor Wu on the creation of Spino-Rex. Whoever he'll be, he'll be Billy's secret boss. All options above are psychopaths, even in the very slim chance they'll be redeemable.

      The genius raptors - They are based on the genius green raptors from the novel. Crichton himself admitted that raptors are not that intelligent, especially if not raised. These raptors will either have a good reason to be geniuses, or being raised by the top criminal/Dodgson/Rossiter/rogue scientist the way a pack of German shepherds might be raised by a dog abuser. As said, the good people should've let the raptors kill Spino-Rex. That's what I want to do.

      A black character - One of my changes in the reboots for JP2, JP3 and JW:FK is better representations of blacks. But for the sake of this topic, i'll focus on the specific black character who'll be found on Isla Sorna. My original idea was a likeable black dude, but I came to consider the possibility of a Sudanic genius who can replace Amanda.

      An actual emotional weight - For me, the real biggest problem with part 3 is that the good people had the dubious honor to create a movie with parents who tries to save their son, but without any emotional weight. If I haven't seen JP3, I could never imagine it's even physically possible.

      A strong female character - One option is the aforementioned Sudanic genius, who escaped Wu's experiments team. Another option is Cynthia Wu, AKA Doctor Wu's heroic sister.

      3. Usually i see your point, but there's one case that sticking to the source isn't possible. Usually JK Rolling know how to adapt her novels to movies, but "The Cursed Child" was a literature abomination. The worst of all (which means a lot, since it's an installment where Harry became everything he dislike about his adoptive parents, his son Albus is the sideroad of his class, changing time for the better will make Voldemort rule the world, saving Harry's parents is played like murdering Mufasa, Delphini literally shouldn't been born) is change the whole canon and spit on people's faces just to integrate the play into the canon. She suddenly decided that Hermione was black just for justifying the black actress who did Hermione in the play. As a practical result, she spitted on everything Emma Watson ever did, and worse, jeopardized the symbolism she sweated blood to create. Hermione is a scholar Jew, not a scholar black. That's a source material people shouldn't follow. JK should've never take it as a canon.

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