A friendly advice: Try to write proposals for more definite candidates first. JP isn't the best fanbase, so you'll have a hard work convincing others in what you've just said. I know I-Rex is a horrible piece of works, but i'm afraid not many people will upvote it. If you like, i can give you a list of more probable candidates.
Oh yeah my voting poll is still on the discussion page. Just scroll down a bot and you’ll find it (I’ll just say Darkseid is the worst of them IMO but you can choose you) and I will take your advice about the I-Rex.
I just recently proposed this war novel fiend named Captain Aarfy. It won't let me properly link him lol, but he's in the Pure Evil Proposals of the day tab.
I was wondering if you would want to look it over. He hasn't gotten enough votes! Feel free to share you expertise and cast a vote.
1. Just voted. He's definitely a special kind of evil, and not the entertaining kind either. At the very least he's worse than Svidragailov from our original thread. If you're familiar with "Law Abiding Citizen", you remember that Aardvaark is similar to Clarence Darby. Would you say he's worse than Clarence, less vile, or just as bad?
2. Do you wish to keep our converation here, or get back to our original thread?
Hmmm I think Clarence might be worse since he killed an actual child, while Aarfy "only" raped, tortured and robbed blind the high school girls, but it's stiff competition in the rapist/murderer circles. If only Aarfy couldn't have gotten a fate half as bad as Clarence's!
And yea, we can continue conversation here if you'd like my friend!
He have none. His mental illness isn't played for sympathy. He seems to be just evil from an early age. I could sympathize him, until ue broke the arm of a nice girl who wanted to help him get up while she was helping him. From there it only got worse.
Both are worse than Brightburn. If we're being specific about the following candidates, do you agree with the statement that Cletus Cassady is worse than Edgler Vess due to being just as malicious and even more bloodthirsty despite not being as sadistic as the latter?
Putting my money on the latter. I'm curious as to if he will be worse than his novel counterpart. I hope so. I am goign to create an evilest Jurrasic Park Villain poll tommorow. Also could you please vote on these polls if that's fine with you?
Looking forward to the pole. I've just voted to the others:
1. Palpatine is the worst. He's an alien Hitler, and more importantly, he makes more sense than Issac Westcott. Palpatine is a classic sadist. Westcott hurts people who care about him because he likes hurting himself. It doesnt make any sense.
2. Pennywise and Freddy Krueger are equally vile, but Pennywise have a weaker Freudian excuse. Freddy's Freudian excuse is being killed. Pennywise have none. Just a bloodthirsty alien.
3. I tried to vote for Arthur Fleck, but by the time i realized i should've choose the tragic joker, i already voted to "The Killing Joke" version. Facepalm for me.
1. I don't like him. If i had a not so favorite villains list, he'll probably be there. Hurting others because he likes hurting himself is counter-logical.
2. I didnt recall that part. Michael Myers doesnt set an example though. He's just a white mask with a knife. I know people like him because he's the so called original, but the original one combines Wheatley's one-deminsional character and Pennywise's relentless cruelty, and he doesnt even enjoying it. The remake one, with the shred of humanity, is better.
3. Did you vote by mistake, like i did, or do you see him as more sympathetic than Arthur Fleck?
4. People are funny sometimes. With all due respect to Wheatley being one-dimensional, there's no way he can be more sympathetic than Indoraptor. I guess people let fear (Indoraptor is the 2nd scariet JP villain) get the better of their judgement.
1. Agreed that doesn't make the slightest amount of sense.
2. Yeah but Micheal did spare a crying baby in the 2018 film.
3. I found Killing Joke more sympathetic. He remained symapthetic til the end and felt some remorse as he consdiered accepting Batman's offer for redemption and even sincerly apologied when he rejected the offer. Arthur felt symapthetic until he killed Randall for getting him fired and then Murray for mocking him. Yes they were both jerks and he did have a reason to do so but it's still pretty crazy to murder someone over getting you fired. Then he (probably) killed his doctor at the end though he could have just injured her serverly.
4. Yeah Wheatley had a chocie and choose to be evil. Indoraptor couldn't control himself.
Speaking of Richard Adams: There's a semi-live action adaptation for "Watership Down". I'll start watching it today. If you watched it, do you like it better than the animated versions, less, or just as much? I, personally, get the impression i'll like the live action version better.
1. I watched the animated TV series and the original animated film, and read the book. I should read it again. Also, i've just began the topic with "speaking of Richard Adams". You mentioned one of Richard Adam's creations and i responded by talking about another creation of him.
2. And there's also the part of being the reason for Flippy being the way he is. Only a complete psychopath can create a monstrous side in a noble person.
I do have Netflix, so I've watched the Watership Down miniseries a couple times. From what I saw, it seems like General Woundwort has crossed the MEH, despite his backstory. I also have the book for The Plague Dogs and there's an alternative ending where Rowf and Snitter get rescued by two real-life naturalists named Peter Scott and Ronald Lockley and are reunited with Snitter's master.
So, I'm reading Shardik, because it's by Richard Adams. In my opinion, the story is so good it could be made into a movie or a miniseries. I'm also reading it to determine if Genshed would qualify as PE, but I might also have to read the prequel Maia to find out.
You just made me wish i could get to listen to the audiobook in YouTube. Now, Genshed (i didn't find any picture of him) sounds bad enough to be PE. I don't think there's a solid Freudian excuse for traficing children, even in exploitation settings.
I look forward to it. Now, these days i'm watching the live-action "Watership Down". Still in episode, because for some reason, i keep getting stuck at the part where the farmers chase the rabbits. Woundwort is more similar to what Richard Adams had in mind. Being dubbed by Ben Kingsley definitely helps. Writing Hazel and Fiver looking similar, other than Hazel being bigger, was a smart touch too. The animation version portrayted Bigwig with a lion's mane. Here, he got a more realistic rabbit look. Hope to finish the other episodes.
It's still fun, even for adults, especially the first two seasons. Season 3 was good and intense, but the first 2 were better. The prequel was nice, but i believe "Mossflower" would've been better. I'll look for David Popovich when i can.
Before you see season 3, which is based on "Martin the Warrior" and "The Legend of Luke", there are a couple of things you might want to know:
1. This is the least faithful season. The good people tried to make up for it with mixing two novels in it. The best example is Badrang the Tyrant. Other than the name, much of his behavior and ability as a warrior can be trased to Vilu Daskar. The original Badrang was a pushover compare to the animated one.
2. Since Martin was still alive back then, he's an adult who have better tools to deal with reality. It doesn't mean Badrang/Vilu is stronger than Cluny, and neither does it mean that he's a better villain. Just that Martin was more proportionally powered. Matthias and Mattimeo were underpowered.
3. Rose is the hero who died in the most brutal way, even more brutal than Slagar hitting Methuselah. Being stabbed in the heart with a sword. Nuff said. And when you take in count that "Martin the Warrior" happened only one novel before "Mossflower", you realize it won't get better from there.
4. This season will make you wish that the good people will do season 4 based on "Mossflower" and a reboot.
1. I could check it on google, but i prefer to hear you elaborate about it first. What is it about?
2. Are you familiar with "Friday The 13"? So i have a theory that Pamela Voorhees wasn't always planning to kill Alice. She had moments of second thought because Alice was nice, but finally made the wrong choice after deciding that a good counselor is as good as dead. It makes more sense than what the movie wants us to think, because Pamela isn't a bad person. Just horribly misguided from the kind you have to kill but cannot hate.
I have seen the first Friday the 13th movie once. Your theory on Pamela sounds good and could contradict her from being PE if that really was the case.
As for Dances with Wolves, it's a pretty good movie that won 7 academy awards. It's about a U.S. Army lieutenant who befriends a Sioux tribe (Comanche in the book) and a wolf after he moves to the frontier. I think you might like it.
1. Pamela is well-known as one of the most iconic tragic villains. Far from pure evil. I mean, if you're not a counselor, you could be her besty.
2. It does sound interesting. I'll check it out soon. Another wolf-titled movie you might like is "Brotherhood of the Wolf". It talks about the Beast of Gévaudan and a rather disturbing cult led by Jean-François de Morangias. Even if you don't know Gregoire de Fronsac, Morangias' description in his broken page will be all that you need to sympathize Fronsac.
I haven't seen the Scream franchise, but maybe I'll watch it in the future. I'm also gonna watch Brotherhood of the Wolf soon.
I'm currently reading the Dances with Wolves book, but it won't be long before I start reading the Chronicles of Ancient Darkness series. I also got the book Maia, so I'll read it in the future to see Genshed's other heinous crimes, and maybe I'll write a proposal about him.
Well, I'm glad you're familiar with those books.
I just voted on the proposal.
Also, are you gonna listen to The Plague Dogs audiobook in the future?
I've just started reading Chronicles of Ancient Darkness and it's pretty good so far. I've got the Chronicles series and Maia off Amazon. Now that I have Maia, I'll be able to fully determine if Genshed is PE or not, and maybe I'll write a proposal about him in the future.
So who are your favorite authors?
Are you also familiar with "Jungle Book" novel? So not everyone know, but the original novel Buldeo was as scary as any thriller villain. This guy is pure evil. Encouraging the villagers to stone Mowgli (a young boy at the time) to death (luckily he failed) is bad enough, but his real moral even horizon was getting the villagers tying Mowgli's human adoptive parents to the pyre just because they had positive emotions for him. It's brutal and inhumane even for thrillers, and that's even without addresing the fact that he punished parents for loving their child figure. It takes reading the original novel to understand how scary he gets.
I love the Jungle Book adaptations, but I don't have the book yet, I'll have to buy it. The anime series is probably the most faithful adaptation, but Buldeo in the anime version isn't really as heinous as in the book, based off what you told me. Buldeo does sound bad enough to be PE, I think he should be approved if he's to be proposed.