I'm a newcomer and I can't edit. Can you please paste following text to the page Giles Winslow Sr?
Giles Winslow Sr. is the (former) secondary antagonist turned hero in Disney's 2018 live-action movie Christopher Robin. He is the owner of Winslow Luggages and Giles Winslow Jr.'s father and (former) partner in crime.
Like his son, he was very evil and arrogant at the beginning, but much more reasonable. He was his son partner in crime and helpt him in his evil plans to overwork their employees and give them much less money then they promised. When Christopher Robin arrived to tell him and his son everything, he tried and understood what is Christopher trying to say, he redeemed himself and agreed that they will pay holidays to their workers. His son didn't redeem himself, he stayed on his plans and hated Christopher Robin and thought that Christopher is crazy and told that "he lost his marbles". Winslow Sr. shushed his son and was mad on him for disturbing his and Christopher's conversation. At the end, when Eeyore stared and Winslow Jr., he saw that and told that to his father, Winslow Sr. said that actually his son is the one who lost his marbles, not Christopher.
Good luck with your proposal, mate :-). I gave my vote, and respect any opinion.
Personally, I see Beckett as more evil. Firstly, there's the death thing. Blackbeard had a more horrible (some will say fitting) death. Beckett just dropped dead like a deer trapped in the traffic lights. Secondly, Blackbeard was a man of action who get up and backs up his plots. Beckett is standing where he is and leave the real work to others. I know Blackbeard is sending his minions and family to do his dirty job too, but he also fights a great deal of his own battles. That opinion is regardless my vote.
Oh. I didn't mean it that way. I'm glad that Blackbeard ended up being approved. Part of me is a bit confused why no one has said Cutler Beckett was killing pirates so he's not PE (not that I don't think he's PE, I absolutely do)
Beckett was a pirate himself, just hypocrite about it, so i believe saying he's not PE for killing pirates wouldn't hold any water. If you're familiar with "Game Of Thrones", chances are Beckett is like Ramsay (worse) and Bleackbeard is Euron (scarier).
Sure :-). Now, I have a rap battles series named "Villains Rap Battles". As the name suggests, each episode features two villains who tries to convince the audience that they are better characters than their contesters by rap lines. The series also features 7 judges, each for each deadly sin:
Your profile states that you're into "Middle Earth" universe, which i like too :-). I have some topics in regard:
1. Frodo is a holocaust survivor. Similarly to Harry Potter, but not as good as a character. Bilbo is jewish too, because the hobbits were meant to represent the jews. Sméagol is a judenrat . Morgoth might be the architects behind the murder of Frantz Ferdinand and the beginning of WW1. Eru is ambiguous, but I do know Gandalf is Churchill. I assume Galadriel represents the heroic faction of America, which eventually convinced the rest of the state to take action after bombing Pearl Harbor. What does Azog and the goblin king are meant to symbolize?
2. What Smaug was supposed to symolize in WW1 context?
3. Azog, in particular, is similar to warlords such as Himmler. Being vile and almighty even for an orc, which means practically any mortal Gandalf met in LOTR is peanuts compare to him, makes him as dangerous as a whole army of Uruk-Hai. And that's even without counting his own army. Did Saruman try to design his private orcs as more obedient versions of Azog, or did he assume he could surpass Azog?
1. I never saw Frodo and Sam as holocaust survivors, more like friends making it through the horrors of war and overcoming the seemingly unstoppable horrors (Sauron). The dead marshes were based off of dead bodies in the trenches of WW1. Gandalf, Morgoth and Eru Illuvatar were all based on religious figures - Jesus, Satan and God respectively. Azog wasn't in the books much. His role in the films was expanded by Peter Jackson. Therefore it's likely Tolkien wasn't using him to symbolize anything, just another monster. However, the goblins did represent the machines of war, with Tolkien saying in the Hobbit that many machines that killed many people were created by goblins.
2. Smaug represented the Western concept of Dragons in mythology, such as Christianity. He is portrayed as a destructive, winged, snake like, fire breathing animal with a greedy lust for gold and who guard treasure and must be slain. Very different to Asian and Chinese mythological concepts of dragons, where dragons are portrayed as wise gods that give wisdom and fortune and are to be worshipped, not slain. You could loosely compare his fiery breath to the cannon fire of WWI. Similar to how Sauron and his forces represent the unmatchable odds and terrors you face in war, as well as the evil and corruption in the world.
3. I don't believe Azog was that much stronger than the average Uruk-Hai, if at all. He was only the strongest Orc for his time, 60 years before the Uruk-Hai were bred. I believe Aragorn could have killed Azog in a duel - albeit a difficult one. Saruman definitely believed he could surpass Azog, and all orcs in general, with the Uruk-Hai, which he called the orcs "perfected". The Uruk-Hai even looked down on regular Orcs, as "maggots". I'm sure Azog could kill a Uruk-Hai, due to his strength and skills, but he wasn't too much better than them, and all other Orcs certainly weren't at all.
1. Gandalf is Jesus? He makes more sense as Churchill, but his theological symbolism is interesting too. Good point about the goblins. And if we assume Morgoth is the devil, then it makes Sauron's theological layer interesting/confusing. He was supposedly corrupted by Morgoth, but became pure evil in his own right. I know 3 examples of PEs who created another PE: Milton creating Roman Bridger, Piper Shaw creating Kieran Wilcox and Voldemort creating Bellatrix.
2. Personally I prefer the western type. More interesting for some reason. I like Smaug better when I relate to him a deeper symbolic layer than what Tolkien had in mind, but i'm glad you told me. If Smaug and Sauron are similar, including by representing terror of war and war machine driven by greed, why does Sauron is PE and Smaug isn't? Unless Smaug is honorable, I can't think about anything Sauron did and Smaug wouldn't.
3. Lurtz was supposed to be the first of Saruman's "perfected" creation, yet he was half blind and no smarter than any other orc. Kinda contradicting his hypothesis as surpassing Azog. Did Saruman get the idea for Uurk-Hai after hearing about Azog, or did he come up with it regardless? Also, you just gave me an insight: The reason the Uruk-Hai were racists toward the so called regular orcs is the same reason the SS were used to dispose the SA. I know Saruman is Stalin, but it's the same principle.
4. Ever felt conflicted about watching Johnny Depp's movies because of his behavior toward Amber Heard? Well, turns out Amber lied about everything. Depp was the true victim. Amber Heard was similar to Jill Roberts, Amy Hughes and Rose Armitage, doing everything in her power so Depp's voice will never be heard. She even admits it. Search in google "Amber Heard is the real abuser", and you'll find some disturbing things, including recordings of Amber confessing what she did.
Let's say that in this relationship, Depp was the girl. I used to hate Depp based on what Amber said, but now I know she's a violent psychopath. I take back everything bad I ever said about Depp. Even his piracy about cancelling the female villain in POTC 5 is peanuts. I met girls similar to Amber in real life, so I know the type :-(. The foul combination of ill temper, complete control and having blue eyes and a deceptive smile. But what I hate the most about her is that she ruins everything for truly abused women. She hurt Depp physically and verbally, occasionally injured herself as part of her best efforts to dehumanize him, and her lies are ruining the credibility of the real victims. She's a worse version of the handful few girls who give false complaints about harassment. I also feel sorry for her parents. Living their life knowing they gave birth to a violent psychopath cannot be easy. Do you agree with the statement that she's just as bad as some male abusers?
1. I never saw the Gandalf comparison to Churchill, but I would be interested to hear it. Gandalf is like Jesus because he is a Grey Pilgrim who sacrifices himself but returns to life. Sauron is PE because he didn't care about Morgoth, as he wanted to conquer Middle-earth for himself alone during LOTR. Morgoth corrupted Sauron by manipulating him and promising him that they would create the order and control Sauron craved. They likely just saw each other as useful. They certainly weren't friends.
2. The reason Sauron is Pure Evil and Smaug isn't is not because Smaug is honorable and moral (he absolutely isn't). It's because Sauron has committed more numerous and more vile crimes than Smaug has. While Smaug's burning of Dale and Laketown and robbery of Erebor were all horrible, they were nowhere near on the same scale as Sauron who wanted to conquer all of Middle-earth, wipe out Men and Elves (and likely all non Orc or Evil Maiars) and dominate all life. Smaug did terrible things, but Sauron wanted to end the world as Frodo knew it. Smaug couldn't compare to that, so Sauron was PE and not him.
3. Saruman liked the Uruk-hai for their greater strength and foot soldiery, not for their intelligence. I highly doubt Saruman based the Uruk-hai off of Azog (who Saruman probs didn't even know or care for), but from wanting to improve Orcs in general. While Azog is arguably stronger than Lurtz, he is a rare exception and no other Orc could beat a Uruk-hai. Also, you could make the argument that Lurtz could kill Azog, due to better weaponary, being an Uruk-hai and fighting against Aragorn (who is much stronger than Thorin, who Azog fought).
4. Amber Heard is a disgusting person and I agree, she is absolutely just as bad as a male abuser. An abuser is an abuser. Like you, I have met abusive girls - they are usually popular girls. I feel very bad for Johnny Depp. I can't think of anything worse than being abused while being seen as an abuser. I wish him the best of luck and I hope Amber gets what she deserves.
Look, if you're going to start adding obsolete terms like "tertiary/quaternary/quinary antagonist" to pages like Draco Malfoy, then you really need to familiarize yourself with the rules. Antagonist fussing is highly discouraged due to overly-specifying villain roles to the point where its redundant and spammy. While tertiary is generally no longer in use and discouraged, quaternary and quinary or anything below those two terms are completely forbidden. So again, don't abuse the antagonistic scale.
OK, here's my problem with Destoroyah; one of the chief gripes that I have with this particular Kaiju is that apparently, he's a hive mind. Basically, Destoroyah is made up of several creatures that have a shared consciousness. As such, this falls under the "no groups" rule.