Thanks for informing, I already remove it. I also admire how you tried your best to prove those idiotic bullies into proving they are CMs. Don't fight them back yet as they have power here, let fate teach them a lesson.
I'd like you to make your case for Tornedron being a Complete Monster, because what I see is a force driven by predatorial instinct that's also falls under the Made of Evil trope to boot. Even if that isn't the case, he still faces stiff, stiff competition from the laundry list of Transformers villains who have attempted to destroy planets, the universe, so and so.
Also, I assure you that given Unicron's end goal and the sheer amount of crap he's done, there's no way Tornedron even comes close to surpassing Unicron in evil. I'll give you the benefit of minor villain to major villain though, given that Unicron's had a lot more time to do what he does.
Watch the episode Calling All Primitives if I were you. I know Transformers more than you do. Don't just edit a page you're not really familiar with if I were you. I've seen this thing & its even FAR WORSE than Unicron himself & it murdered every being across the galaxy. Also, what do you call Dick Hardly of PPG? He had a one-shot appearance yet he is considered as one of the worst PPG villains ever, even far worse than HIM. Don't just judge the series you're not familiar with if I were you. Don't use TV Tropes most of the time as a Freudian Excuse.
I'm running it through the thread and I've done some more research. It's heinous enough by the standards of the original show- I'll give you that much. However, I must ask how Dick Hardly factors into this. He has absolutely nothing to do with the arguments I've presented and I fail to see how bringing him up justifies Tornedron being a CM.
Also, perhaps Tornedron is worse than the non-multiversal singularity Unicron (honestly, that stuff confuses me) but as for the primary Unicron... no. Attempted multiversal annihilation is worse than anything Tornedron pulls out, and nothing you can say will convince me otherwise.
Tornedron is no Indominus. This thing had no valid Freudian Excuse unlike Indominus (as Owen stated, it grew in isolation which is why it is a psycho as it is the only one of its species, why he really dislike the beast.) It is also not a T-800 as well as not only it followed orders, it even tried to kill its master, much like how its predecessor tried to do to him but instead killed his assistant, The Oracle, a thing the Terminator can't do, unless it is reprogrammed. This thing is a killer. As Primacron in the episode have stated, it succeeded its predecessor Unicron, that is why it is even far WORSE than the Chaos Bringer himself as it kills within seconds, without pity & reasoning. I've seen this thing & please don't brag & mess this thing's page for your selfish beliefs. You already did this to another page out of some pathetic group excuse. Just because it has an off switch (unlike Skynet) doesn't always mean that lifts the CM status on this monster. I use Dick Hardly as an example due to the fact he only appeared once & he is considered as one of the worst villains in his series, even far worse than its Big Bad (Mojo Jojo) & Bigger Bad (HIM), much like Tornedron did in its series.
Also, have you watched Calling All Primitives? If not, stop editing the page & watch it first but if you are not familiar with the original cartoon & still don't understand, watch the entire series. Please, stop bothering that page for your selfish beliefs. There are times you are not always correct.
...alright, at this point you're doing nothing but ranting. Indominus and Skynet are irrelevant to the discussion and none of the points I asked about (made of evil, predatory force, heinous standard) have you actually contested or proven wrong.
...as it is, however, I've watched the bloody episode and I've run it through the thread, and I'm honestly not seeing anything much disqualifying sans the fact it doesn't have much of a character. I'm not going to flaunt the GDV argument given how Tornedron ultimately betrays Primacron, so I suppose the category stays unless someone gives a better argument.
Both are founders and supreme commander of their respective organization (Morganians for Morgana and Decepticons for The Fallen)
Both of them, along with their minions believed that their race are far better than humanity.
Both also have more active right hands that mainly believed by audience to be the main antagonist until is revealed that the said minions revealed worked for them(Horvath for Morgana and Megatron for The Fallen).
Sorry, I have no such interest with Le Fay & I haven't watch the film Sorcerer's Apprentice to be exact, only Revenge of the Fallen since I watched the film tons of times due to my favorite Decepticon the Constructicons & their combined form Devastator being on it.
I must ask that next time you double check before you put the user troll and problem users. Generally one incident isn't enough to warrent it and User:Dirtbag Daryl has not yet done anything to warrent it and has asked that I talk to you about it.
The novel Dracula the Un-dead which was written by Bram Stoker's great grand nephews themselves has shown several shocking revelations on the novel & eventually showing that Dracula himself is not a CM as revealed as it was actually his cousin, Elizabeth Bathory who is actually the true monster. Count Dracula in this sequel is shown more in a positive light & a misunderstood villain & is then revealed that he actually went to London to stop the Jack the Ripper Murders as Bathory is in fact Jack the Ripper in the novel as well as the crew of the ship he rode in the first novel actually died of a disease & he only attacked Lucy because he was starving. The novel also reveals Jonathan, Arthur, Mina & Van Helsing hunted & killed the wrong monster. Even shocking is that Van Helsing himself in the novel turned into the dark side by becoming a vampire as well. I presume this is canonical since it was made by a relative of Stoker.
If you still disagree about my discussion, let's ask an admin whether he decides if Dracula is a CM or not. Also note that in that novel, it is revealed he is the real father of Mina's son & not Jonathan.
Oh ok sorry haven't read the whole book yet. And sorry if I cam off as a bit rude I was getting ready for work so I wasn't very happy. I have talked to jester and oerhaos he can be out under a CM and Type Dependent on Version.
Me neither. I only read Dracula the Un-Dead summary in Wikipedia & I discovered it after I was researching about Hungarian countess Elizabeth Bathory in many fictional media. Also, I accept your apology.
I'm confused whether Indominus Rex can be considered as yangire or not? Some of me thought yes (due to her savagery, mentally-ill(result of her isolated on an enclosure that was turned out too small that drove her psychotic), and even able to manipulate Owen's raptors to turned against him albeit not last long), and some of me thought otherwise. What's your opinion?
Perhaps because of the isolation which gave her a valid Freudian Excuse. She's awesome but the thing that I really hated about her was when she Jihadi Johned my favorite dinosaur Ankylosaurus. I just loved the scene Mosasaurus ate her.
I know that you hate her, but if Indominus Rex had to fight a powerful villain like Smaug from Hobbits trilogy, i bet I-Rex would won against him albeit suffer heavy injury. She's powerful you know: This afternoon, when i saw her in one of the youtube walkthrough of LEGO Jurassic World, specifically at the final battle where she fought the Rexy and Owen's raptors , she performed some sort of terrakinesis attack where in a single stomp, she summoned forth a straight-lined wave of crude, earth spikes that emerges from the ground and send everything that in it's way flying!
Or at least that was it looks like though it was merely gameplay mechanic or her game-exclusive power.
I watched some scenes & found the spoofed death scenes hilarious. Most of the characters that were killed in the films didn't die but ended up having ridiculous results such as being spat out or misformed instead. I also like the Lego version of the fight scene of I-Rex & Ankylosaurus.
Yeah, but even not killed, Blue the Raptor's pack in Lego adaptation instead simply K.O. by her seemingly fatal attacks. Had those raptors given more screen time, i bet that they expresses their dissappointment over missing the event where I-Rex pulled by Mosasaur.
Anyway, can you send the site where I-Rex hanging out with Mosasaurus' other victims? I wonder what it looks like.
I can't find it. Sorry. I just only read this on Lego wiki. They also claimed Masrani & his ACU team survived the chopper crash as well despite I haven't seen this. I think I last saw Charlie riding Owen's bike in the game & the other raptors having a grocery on the abandoned main street after I-Rex was eaten & Rexy left.
i already talked with Jester of chaos ,can you please change Lockdoown's page to the true main antagonist (and not to: Lockdown is the true main villain in.... - like in Alexander Pierce's page). that's the first thing i wanted to tell you ,and the second one is: can you please change Harry the Goblin's page to: Green Goblin is one of the two main villains and the secondary ,later true main antagonist of The Amazing Spider-Man 2 and also to re-edit Electro's page to the secondary main antagonist ,alongside Harry Osborn???????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!????.
Sorry Ohad, you can say that all you like but nothing changes the fact Attinger is the real main villain as he started the plot of the 4th film, not Lamborghini who is nothing but a Quintesson pawn following orders. The discontinued prequel comics never explained if Lamborghini himself DID started the events of the 4th film. I know Transformers MORE than you do, especially the original series & the Unicron trilogy whom you are not familiar with. Also note that NOT all of Transformers series' main villains are always Decepticons or unallied Cybertronians but they also have humans & non-mechanical organic aliens for main villains.
Yup. Despite being one of the worst Transformer villain ever, alongside the Quintessons, Primacron, Tornedron, the Vok, some versions of Megatron & Lamborghini (my nickname for movieverse Lockdown), I also consider him as one of Mr. Grammer's most darkest roles ever & a direct polar opposite to Beast of X-Men.