"I already feel like the way the PE category and the proposals have been handled has been steadily improving, but it certainly doesn't hurt to reinforce a couple more points or so. In particular, I agree that people should really know the work they're proposing from, and by extension, the character they're proposing rather than doing it just to see them get approved as quickly as possible. For what it's worth, I, personally, have only proposed characters from works that I've seen, and in the cases of more dated ones, I made sure to watch them shortly before proposing the characters they're from to make extra sure my information was accurate. After all, while I enjoy making proposals and feeling like I'm contributing something to the wiki, I also think it should be more about quality rather than quantity."
I kind of wanted to confess something about you. I'll admit that I'm a person who ended up making quantity over quality EPs back when I was a TV Tropes user and it's going to be the same as me in Villains Wiki. If I'm being honest with you, I have my reason why my to-do list and discussion dates was pretty much bloated or too much back when I was a TV Tropes user who loved to propose Complete Monsters because this is my raison d'etre or new obsession now. I don't know why but yeah...
That and I wanted to be in the Cool Kids club if I propose several CMs especially the ones who came from popular series or female villains and at the very least, make my existence meaningful by contributing through EPs instead of being a drone who always votes a lot which I hate the most. That's why I kind of wanted to imitate a bit with the likes of Lighty and Scraggle because they seemed to get a lot of praise due to not only being veteran users but also the amount of the candidate they had proposed and having a good streak of approved CMs.
I know it kind of pushing the trope into the badge of honor territory. But even then, I admit that I tried too hard to imitate the likes of Lighty and Scraggle because I wanted to be in the cool kids club and find my own purpose to live as a human being. That and consuming more media means I get a lot of inspiration of making several stories.
Hi there. Sorry, I saw this a few hours ago, but I didn't have time to respond since I've been busy for most of the day. Honestly, this isn't really news to me. It's pretty clear you felt like you were giving yourself a purpose of sorts by doing those EPs. Hopefully now though, you can see that it's ultimately just a hobby that doesn't, by any means, determine your worth or value. Even here, now that I've been given the opportunity to propose all these characters that I'm confident meet all the criteria so they can be officially approved, it's really fun to use as a way of interacting with other people who are interested in the different components that make a character qualify as "pure evil", at least as defined here, as well as make a small contribution to a wiki I find interesting. But that's really all it is, and the only thing that's actually important about it is getting characters properly sorted into it, as well as the "rejected evil" category if they come close enough to be considered, but fail to meet all the criteria, all for the sake of reducing edit-warring and continuous arguing. Other than that, it's just a something to interact with other people over.
In short though, it's easy to understand why you felt that way on TV Tropes, especially since it's something that required a lot of analyzing, and therefore, feels like it can gain you respectability. However, in the big scheme of things, the number of characters you get approved really doesn't matter; as long as you're making an honest effort to help sort characters that properly fit the category here or over there (with the same principle applying to the Pure Good category on the Heroes Wiki, which I'm also contributing to), your contributions are just as appreciated and/or helpful as anyone else's. As long as you recognize that being an honest contributor is all that really matters and that it's just a fun hobby otherwise, then I think you're okay. Otherwise, it can just become a desperate and unhealthy way to get others' approval at the expense of getting characters properly sorted where they should be based on the criteria they've laid out.
Yeah... I admit that proposing a PE villains is a fun thing to do especially when you read their rapsheet in the tv tropes which some of them could exceed 200 words. I think another thing that I wanted to tell is probably because how I was a stupid person back when I was a Brave Frontier player which brought nothing but harm towards other people which is why I tried my best to change on TV Tropes by trying my best to contribute to something and that's why I participate in both Complete Monster and Magnificent Bastard cleanups but at the end, I didn't change at all and I'm aware how hard it is to contribute to other things in TV Tropes because how the mods can be a rather pain to deal with due to them throwing a hissy-fit at people who are bad at their grammars or example identations so yeah... Creating a page of a works that I like its going to be a hard time thanks to that and that's why I prefer to contribute via CM or MB thread itself to make myself worthy but I guess it was not. Believe it or not, I originally did not want to create a TV Tropes account in the first place because I am afraid that I will contribute to nothing but ended up contributing anyway so yeah...
If you ask me how my actual feelings in TV Tropes like, it'll be the likes of Patrick Star from Spongebob Squarepants in episode "No Hat For Pat" in which I related to Patrick a lot in that episode alone.
Well, I do appreciate you opening up about how you felt and what your motivation was for contributing, but I'm not sure why you feel like you didn't change at all from your apparent bad behavior or like you didn't contribute anything of value. From what I saw, you actually made a pretty considerable number of good proposals for relevant candidates. If anything, as you just described, you were perhaps just a little too eager to find new candidates and impress the other tropers, which is not a huge deal, and it's an easy trap to fall into, especially considering how judgmental people there can be. All in all, you did your more than a decent amount of contributions, and just because it didn't work out in the long run doesn't mean it was for nothing. Many of your contributions are still there, and based on the messages you're sending me now, I'd say it functioned as a pretty effective learning experience too.
P.S. I don't want to go into this too much, but there's something I'm curious about; did you happen to have any notable experiences, or any interaction whatsoever for that matter, with a moderator named Fighteer? I ask because personally, I had a pretty bad experience with him. In fact, he was the main reason I got suspended and why I felt like my moral values were disrespected to the point I eventually decided that in a way, it was actually a blessing in disguise to leave and not come back. Therefore, I'm just curious if you had any experiences like that with him, or if alternatively, you actually had a positive experience with him or simply never interacted at all.
Well, luckily, I rarely interact with that dude. The only thing I remember interacting with him is the likes of asking PE candidates in FEAR or trying to ask Guile Hero example in "Is This an Example" thread in which Fighteer responded by saying that I need to fix my grammar. Anyways, the mods that I guess had a little bit of interaction is Willbyr on Image Pickin Threads or Anime/Manga threads. But then again, since I'm suspended, i am not going to get myself involved with the mods and their wishes considered that would be a hard thing to do and how draconian they can be.
And regarding impress the other tropers, yeah...It's kind of hard thing to do especially some of them can be judgamental at times.
Oh, and by the way, there's something I feel I should warn you about since one, this user has apparently sent you a message recently, and two, lately, they've been going around attempting this with various users on this wiki. Okay, so that Reggie Jacobs user that just sent you a message? That was just the most recent of a very, very long list of sockpuppets accounts used by a troll who originally went by the username MIDKOWITCH. If you get any messages from a brand new user requesting for you to try creating or deleting pages for certain characters, I can pretty much guarantee you it's this user under a different name, and if you see their message before it's deleted by a moderator or administrator, you should either politely, but firmly decline, or better yet, remove the message from your wall without commenting at all. I don't know who this person is, but they've been at this for the better part of a year now, and despite users and administrators alike already explaining why certain characters do or don't qualify as villains, they've refused to let it go and keep endlessly creating sockpuppet accounts to try and get other users to create and delete the pages that they want.
In short, whoever this person is, they're clearly mentally ill, have way too much free time on their hands, and are completely, unhealthily obsessed with having their way. They've even occasionally become hostile and harassed me and some other users when we've tried to be firm with them, so this isn't someone you want to associate with. You can read some additional details about them on my personal user watchlist near the bottom of my page if you like, but I'd say these are all the details you really need to know.
I was actually already considering voting on it, because even though I haven't actually watched any of the Fate/stay night series, I still have superficial familiarity with, and, by extension, with this Ryuunosuke Uryuu. So no worries, I'll get around to it soon. But you know, on the topic of proposals, it doesn't seem like a lot of people have been voting on most recent proposals lately. I wonder why that is? I'll admit that I, myself, have only voted on a handful of them, but that's because I happen to not be familiar at all with most of the recent candidates brought up, and that's always how I've based which ones I vote on. However, before it seemed like even many of the ones I didn't vote on easily had a sufficient number of votes for a consensus, whereas now, many candidates are only just getting the few they need to be approved. Maybe most of the candidates that have been brought up lately happen to be obscure to most of the regular users here?
Okay, I just read it, and like before, I found it quite entertaining, so thanks. As for who to vote for, I'm honestly not sure since they each have certain points in their favor, and I haven't stopped to compare them and who I prefer more.
Maybe you'll have a more definite favorite in episode 6. It will feature Indoraptor vs Cujo. The only JP villain who have my sympathy vs the only Steven King villain who can compete with Carrie when it comes to being tragic.
Also, do you have a favorite judge/ideas for replacement judges in case some judges will be competitors?
Hm... good question. It's hard to say who my favorite judge is, and as for potential replacement judges... I know it's all made up and what not, but several that I personally think would make for interesting and/or appropriate choices are Scar (the Lion King character, not the Fullmetal Alchemist character, especially since he's such an anti-villain anyway), the Nolanverse version of the Joker, Frieza and Darth Vader. Those are a few that come to mind, anyway.
Oh, hi! Things are going pretty well for me overall, though I do feel like I've been busy with a bunch of different small obligations. Actually, I've been finally taking some time to play my Nintendo Switch (which I received two Christmases ago) more, so that's definitely been nice, especially since it helps me relax and not focus on more stressful things. Also, because of the time of year, I just recently realized I have several holiday potlucks coming up, and I'm definitely looking forward to those. I still get stressed sometimes, but not so much because anything's actually wrong; it's more that I simply wish I had more time to devote to everything I'd like to do. So how about you?
Thanks. Though I'm going to vent about my depression right now: It's kind of related to TV Tropes and I'll admit that everytime I think of it, everytime I think on how useless I am. I brought nothing as a contributor but harm to other people actually :(
Wait, what are you talking about? I haven't been a user there in over half a year, and even when I was there, you were making plenty of helpful contributions, at least to the CM cleanup forum, so I know for a fact that can't be true. And how have you brought harm to others? I never saw any evidence of that. If you simply made some sort of honest mistake, then that's nothing to be ashamed of or beat yourself up over. After all, nobody's perfect. And frankly, if this is because some other troper there was really critical of you over something, I wouldn't be too bothered by it; from my experience, it's not obvious, but TV Tropes has a pretty toxic social environment in the sense that even experienced tropers are prone to snarking at and being way too harsh in their criticism towards others over virtually any mistake, no matter how small. In general, it's a pretty close-minded and judgemental community of people, even if that doesn't apply to every single person. So if you don't want to describe it any further, that's fine, but just by telling me it has to do with TV Tropes gives me the impression that whatever it is, you probably haven't done anything truly wrong. And like I previously stated, I know for a fact from experience that you've made plenty of solid contributions there, so there's absolutely no reason to think you haven't done anything helpful.
I don't know...I feel like I made a fool of myself. Between the Honkai Impact incident, being a procrastinator which always keep to-do list and didn't share it with others, posting some useless things or voting with joke names which angers other users, rewriting an entry for the sake of rewriting it, hijacking other people's reserved works, the MLP Fanworks page incident in which I accidnetally created a toxic environment...I honestly don't know anymore what to do.
And even the mods doesn't care anyway and thump my latest post because it was a ragequit and it's true. Considered I always thought I brought nothing but harm and I'm just nothing special at all and thinking that cleanup thread would be better without me existing...Yeah :/ this is what led me to depression and I think I decided to take an indefinite break from TV Tropes and I think the website would be better without me.
Honestly, if you feel like you need ot take a break from TV Tropes, then that's probably the right thing to do. As for those things you listed, I can't comment too much on them since I don't know all the details, but it sounds like you've just made some mistakes is all, and some of the things you listed aren't really an issue. For instance, not getting around to watching certain works to see if certain characters qualify as complete monsters? That's not an urgent or important matter at all, and besides, even engaging in fun hobbies requires time you don't always have.
Anyway, I'm not going to tell you not to feel a certain way, because they're your feelings, and if this is a case of genuine depression, then it's one of those things you can only deal with and process on your own terms. However, again, I know for a fact you've definitely made worthwhile contributions to that wiki, so there's no way you haven't done anything good for them. And again, from my experience, TV Tropes is an unhealthy source to be on regularly, so you never know; maybe by taking at least a bit of a break, you'll start to feel better. I know I've certainly been happier since I haven't been on I, because when I was on it, I felt like I was scrutinized and criticized over every little mistake while other tropers were doing things I felt were inappropriate without it being acknowledged in the slightest.
To sum things up, my advice is to simply remember that everyone makes mistakes, and that all that really matters is that you learn from them. That's all anyone can do, and frankly, I think the people who run TV Tropes are pretty unforgiving and intolerant in spite of the fact that they, themselves, are by no means perfect either. So if you're not on good terms with them right now, don't worry about it; they're very hard to please. Oh, and also, try to do something that's good for relaxing and taking your mind off of stressful things; even if it's just playing a game or watching something you like, it can at least help a lot towards making you feel better and possibly even help you put things in perspective.
I guess you're right. I mean...TV Tropes itself is a rather draconian place because three strikes and you're out rule if you ever make a mistake whether it is grammar/identation error, edit warring stupid posting, complaining about works that you don't like, etc. is one of the reason why I hesitate to return to the website ever again as forum participant because I'm afraid to keep making a repeated mistake all over again and never learn from my lesson.
And yeah, I still feel sad on your ban from TV Tropes actually and I'm going to give you a pat in the back.
Thanks, I appreciate that. Don't worry though; as I mentioned previously, I got over it a while ago to the point I see it as a blessing in disguise in retrospect. I've also found this wiki along with the Heroes Wiki to be much better outlets for occasionally discussing my interests; sure, you occasionally get users who mostly just want to cause trouble, but for the most part, I find the social environment here to be much, much better than TV Tropes. In fact, I don't think I would have come here if they hadn't been so harsh with me over there, so again, I see the whole experience as a blessing in disguise. Maybe if you see your situation from a different perspective, you can frame it in a positive context too.
Yeah, I also admit that while some users can be friendly, most of the TV Tropes environment can be hostile sometimes. That and I'll admit that I have a huge inferiority complex to the point I don't think I need to be there and the thread would be better without me...I mean, users like Lighty, therealjackieboy, TheMadCr0w, TheImmortalAngelNewton, miraculous, Scraggle, 43110, Ravok and Sircray are better than me and they carried the thread pretty nicely. Me? I got nothing in my side and only contribute to more harm than good. That's why I always feel inferior and thinking the thread would be a better place if I didn't exists :/
I wouldn't compare myself too much with those other users; some people just have a naturally strong understanding of all the strict rules in place and work really well within them (and even then, I feel that, ironically enough, they're still far too loose in certain respects). Just because you're not one of the top contributors doesn't mean you're useless and not doing any good. If anything, you should be proud that you've gone this long without getting into trouble considering how easy it is to be in trouble there even if you're a genuinely non-malicious user. Besides, no matter who you are, there's always someone else you can compare yourself unfavourably to in some respect. Nobody's perfect or good at everything. Also, TV Tropes isn't the sort of thing that should affect your self-esteem and self-worth; after all, it's just something people use for fun as a hobby. Unfortunately, it also happens to hold everyone up to ridiculously high standards that only a small number of people can completely meet. If anything, you're in the same boat as many other people.
It's me again. Sorry for the absence. Anyways, I'm going to admit this. Around October, I actually managed to complete my own story for Halloween and if you want to read it, here's the story in question:
Oh, hi. That's okay, we all need to take a break sometimes. This wiki is just a fun hobby that most people use on their spare time after all. It looks pretty long, but I could try reading it when I have enough time, which if I do, I could certainly try to offer feedback. Also, just one question; how appropriate or inappropriate is it in terms of content? Because the amount of profanity in it, in particular, would play a big part in how fine or uncomfortable I am reading through it. I hope that's understandable.
Oh, did you just hear that? Yeah, that happened all the way back in March. I was distraught about it at the time since it was all over an accident on my part, but since then, I've not only gotten over it, but in retrospect, it was probably for the best since I never felt like I truly belonged there. I think I already told you about it when I first created an account here in April, but maybe I never told you what the specific incident was? I don't mind telling you, but it does require some in-depth explanation to understand.
Okay, so I don't know if you've ever noticed this, but I never use swear words when writing here. Sure, in the case of this wiki, they discourage you from using anything excessive, so that doesn't seem very unusual, but there are still some users who type the odd word sometimes. Anyway, in my case, my aversion to it is very much deliberate; you see, in my day-to-day life, I'm actually very sensitive to that, to the point I often go out of my way to avoid people and places I'm likely to hear much of it. Therefore, I'm generally very comfortable here due to them discouraging people from doing it too much in their rules... but on TV Tropes, as you well know, they're comparably more loose about that. Therefore, a while back (as in 2015 and earlier), I would sometimes edit swear words that seemed unnecessary, and I had stubbornly convinced myself I was doing a good thing. However, the moderators obviously didn't like that, and I was suspended. Eventually though, as you also know, I returned last year and started finding a different way to contribute without editing by participating in the Complete Monster cleanup forum. I didn't always feel like I belonged there, but I learned some great tips on how to improve my writing from those like Lighty and Scraggle, and there were even a handful of tropers I felt like I was developing a bit of a bond with, including yourself.
After doing this for a while, I thought I could try asking for another chance to edit, especially since I felt I had matured enough to not do what I did before anymore. Plus, I developed a better coping mechanism by using a Google Chrome extension called Web Nanny, which edits most swear words when I apply it to any given page (but only from my view, not anyone else's). Anyway, they actually agreed, but Fighteer immediately gave me a strict warning about not making even the slightest slip-up, which sadly, only took a few days to happen. I was trying to make a couple of small additions to the Fruits Basket character page, and as I often do, I used my Web Nanny extension to make myself feel comfortable as I scrolled down the list to the spot I wanted to add a couple of things; but unfortunately, I completely forgot that if I did that in the editing stage, it would save all my extension's changes. Afterwards, I had a disaster on my hands, especially since it's a far-from-perfect extension, meaning it also changed completely normal words based on their spelling, and I didn't know a simply way of reverting my edits. Therefore, I pleaded with Fighteer to both help me fix and it and let him know this wasn't intentional. How did he respond though? He just banned me immediately and decided "I couldn't be trusted", no matter how much I pleaded on the suspension forum that this was a complete accident and not a regression into my old habits or a case of going back on my word to not do it.
Anyway, sorry to elaborate so much, but I thought you deserved to get a summary of the whole story so that you'll understand. And you know what? If moderators like Fighteer are goign to be so quick to assume the worst about me, and treat me similarly to actual trolls and vandals, I don't want to be there. I do miss being on the CM cleanup forum, doing my part to contribute, and especially interacting with some of the tropers there like you, 43110, Futuremoviewriter, Lighty and Scraggle, but again, even there, I never felt like I completely fit in. I always felt like I was the only one who cared about people perhaps being a little more liberal with their profanity than necessary, and was really bugs me is that there were so many times that I was tolerant and didn't say a word about it, due to not wanting to cause conflict. And this was despite the fact that some tropers, like Beast and TheRealJackieBoy, could be liberal enough about it that I usually wanted to skip over their effort posts altogether. However, I still didn't bring it up unless necessary in private messaging, and somehow, despite all my efforts to both be tolerant and be open to constructive criticism to improve my own writing, Fighteer still thought that one accident, that one sincere unintentional slip-up, was enough to determine they "couldn't trust me", never mind the fact it had been close to 4 years since the last time I edited swear words deliberately.
So to wrap it up, if they decide to acknowledge that I didn't deliberately do anything wrong and that that I'm really not a problematic user like some of them insist on thinking, and they stop judging and scrutinizing every little thing I do, I'd still be open to coming back. However, with people as intolerant and quick to distrust/assume the worst like "Fighteer" running it, I doubt it will happen. At the time, I wish he hadn't given me another chance to edit it he was practically going to use the first excuse he could get to get rid of me and make me lose all of my privileges... but again, if one accident is all it took, maybe it would have inevitably happened sooner or later anyway. I hope this was informative, and maybe even interesting, to read.
Yeah, I will admit that TV Tropes is awfully strict as hell and not pretty friendly when it comes to newbies. I will admit that I disagree with some of their policies such as anti-complaining policy and grammar issues policies (When you have an issue with grammar, you will get suspended ASAP) regardless, I have no choice but to adapt/get along with it.
And yeah, the mods themselves can act like a frigging crusader too due to their draconian policies so it's understandable why some of the mods in there rubbed you in the wrong way.
What still frustrates me the most is that I put a lot of sincere effort to simultaneously better myself and be tolerant towards others, even though without meaning any harm, they were using the kind of language I really don't care for much more often than I felt was necessary, and that took a lot of discipline and effort on my part. Despite that, it meant so little to the moderators that making that one mistake, which was very clearly an unintentional accident that I was going to be sure not to repeat, was enough to ban me in spite of all that.
So in the end, I was actually being very tolerant towards things that other people were doing that upset me, but the moderators weren't at all tolerant or sympathetic towards me for my shortcomings despite the fact I obviously meant no harm. I completely understand having zero tolerance towards far more deliberate and harmful behavior, like the administrators here are with users who keep plagiarizing, category-spamming, edit-warring, and generally being hostile and uncooperative. Over there however, I've noticed many other cases where there are tropers like myself who mean absolutely no harm and may just be having trouble living up to their standards in some respect, like with grammar... and they still ban them because they feel they're too troublesome to be worth the effort. They're so strict and unforgiving that I feel like they're basically promoting the message that people can't even make too many mistakes to begin with, even if they're willing to learn from them.
Anyway, sorry to rant. As you can tell, I'm open to talking about it, but if I do, it's hard for me not to express how much I've come to fundamentally disagree with the way they operate. I think they're setting a truly horrible example to the point of basically promoting intolerance, so as much as I'd like to still be in touch with certain tropers, I've come to accept that that's just not possible with moderators like Fighteer, and to a lesser extent, NombreTomado, running it. I'm also super glad I don't have to keep being both endlessly tolerant of other tropers repeatedly, casually using language that makes me uncomfortable while being scrutinized and criticized every time I unintentionally do something wrong, even if it's something minor like making an effort-post that's unnecessarily long. Unlike the moderators, the other tropers on the cleanup forum may not have meant to make me feel that way, but that's how it was, and in retrospect, that just wasn't right.
I've never used Discord, so maybe, but for that same reason, I'm really uncertain whether I'll like, or even be comfortable using it or not. Maybe I should look up some information about Discord to get a better idea of how it operates.
In the meantime, thanks for understanding how I feel, and I hope I don't sound too bitter or resentful about my experience, because while I may have been at first, I moved past it a while ago. Since you were curious, I simply thought you should know exactly what happened, including why, even though I did like certain things about it, including some of the tropers I conversed with, I honestly felt like I never truly belonged there.
Thanks. I don't mind, and I appreciate the positive sentiment. Please don't mind my ranting here; I used to communicate with this particular user over on that site, so when he asked me, I really wanted to tell him exactly why I was cut off from there so abruptly, and why I thought the moderators dealt with it in a way that came off as really unfair, and most of all, disrespectful. Honestly, I've kind of wanted to vent about it since joining here, but I didn't want to risk bombarding him with unwanted details against his will, so when he asked me about it, I felt like I finally knew for sure that it was okay to come forward about it.
And yes, I'd say things have already turned out much better here. I don't feel like I've had a single negative incident, not even a minor one, since joining in April. Over there, on the other hand, I felt like I couldn't make a single statement that could be taken the wrong way, had to be as good at doing complete monster effort-posts as those who were more experienced to gain any respect, and had to tolerate so much unnecessary profanity in spite of their ridiculous strictness about other things, which made me feel like my moral values meant nothing there, and would give other tropers a reason to look down on me. I think when it comes down to it, even if they don't mean to come off like this, their moderators are just so strict that they come off as bullies who look down on anyone who can't live up to their lofty standards, and are simply not willing to cooperate or sympathize with anyone they can't understand.
I've never really used TV Tropes all that much, but I do remember looking at the headscratchers section of Child's Play and there were some pretty salty people who were acting rude to people just beacuse they didn't agree with their theories. It's the same reason I don't go on the forums for the FNaF wiki that much anymore because it's the same type of deal. So I kinda know what it's like to be disrepected when you didn't really do anything wrong in the first place. But I'm glad that my comment helped you and I'm also glad that the Villains Wiki has been treating you better.
I'm glad/grateful about that too, as well as that you understand my feelings on things like that. And yeah, I can totally seeing that being the case in the headscratcher section for a work like Child's Play. After all, the kinds of people who watch those sorts of movies to begin with probably have much looser standards in general with regards to what they consider acceptable, and it's easy to see some of them not having an especially respectful attitude... which is ironic, since TV Tropes seems to value that so much. Maybe those are the tropers they should, at the very least, be edit-banning (of course, if you saw that a while ago, maybe that did happen later on).
Oh hey, thanks! It's nice to know someone shares some of my interests, especially in terms of music! In terms of the artists you listed, I know all of them with the exception of maybe 4 or 5. The ones I'd say I really like would be; The Rolling Stones, The Who, The Clash, Kiss, and maybe Soundgarden. I don't listen to any of them super regularly, but I like quite a number of songs by all of them. As for groups I don't listen to regularly by any means, but still like a fair bit and listen to them every so often, I would say; the Ramones, Pearl Jam, Alice in Chains, Pink Floyd, Megadeth, Johnny Cash, ZZ Top, Lynyrd Skynyrd, Motorhead, Black Sabbath, Judas Priest and Iron Maiden. I'm only slightly familar with the rest and have heard them once in a blue moon, and in the case of a few, I've only heard of them by name. I hope that gives you an even clearer idea of what I like!
Hi there. I apologize if this seems random, but after thinking more about my initial response, I'd like to give you a somewhat revised answer; in addition to the ones l listed, I'd say Judas Priest, Lynyrd Skynyrd, and to a lesser extent, maybe Pearl Jam and Alice in Chains, are actually among my semi-favorites from that list, while The Clash is more of a group I like a little, but less enthusiastically due to only really liking and being familiar with a few of their songs. Just thought I'd let you know. And with regards to my response, no problem; I'm only on here as more of a part-time hobby, but I like to be responsive and social in general if others send me messages.