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  • Alright my apologies. i overreacted and should not have blocked you and should have explained my points better. Feel free to add yours. Now you may still be blocked for a while even after I've unblocked you because of some weird glitch. But you will be unblocked. Either way I apologize and I hope we can still discuss our disagreements.

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  • Quit abusing the CM category with the Buffy villains. None of them are heinous enough and pale in comparison to the actual CMs on the show. Keep it up and I'll be forced to block you.

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    16:23, June 4, 2016
    • And quit removing others from it as well. This is getting old.

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    • all of them are heinous actually, the ones I marked were child-killers and abusers.. you seem to be the one with a problem..

      Kiddy League Coach - beats a child to near-death for losing a baseball game, that's evil and petty.. why is he exempt?


      Der Kinderstod - viciously attacks, kills and mind-rapes children.. Giles himself said the experience is terrifying.. helpless children being butchered isn't heinous?

      Hans-Gretta - tricks parents into killing their own children, for no reason other than it can.


      The Judge - seeks to kill anything that feels any emotion, even kills a vampire simply for "loving" knowledge.


      The Scourge - genocidal and Nazi extremists.


      I'd love to know why these monsters are considered "not heinous".. they are horrible, disgusting characters and clearly very evil.

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    • and the Thesulac Demon is an Angel villain but also plenty heinous enough, it kept an elderly woman prisoner to fed on her pain for decades.. delighted in driving people insane and found it all very amusing.


      I notice you re--addded Caleb and Billy.. how can they qualify as CMs when you disregard all the above?

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    • I see you just wanna argue with me and have no idea what it takes for a villain to be a CM. Just being a child killer/abuser isn't enough to qualify especially when you consider the level of heinous acts in the Buffyverse. I hope to see again when you've been unblocked. and don't ry to reach me on other wikis or I will go to Wikia Central. Also, in regards to the Scrourge, teams can never qualify. Now I wanted to be civil and give you a warning before I blocked you but you don't seem to wanna handle things that way.

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  • I've been asked by a user to confront you on your use of this category on the King Louie page. No, Louie's not a misanthrope. He's arguably one of the least misanthropic characters in the 2016 film, because part of his motivation - aside from ambition - is a sort of fascination of humans and their ability to use fire. There's nothing indicating misanthropy in the slightest, so I'll have to ask you to stop tagging the page. 

    Thank you.

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    • if he truly cared about humans then why did he try and kill Mowgli? even before that he was planning on making Mowgli a slave and was going to hurt him if he didn't get fire.. this Louie didn't care about humans, he just wanted to enslave them.

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    • first the article is in need of improvement as it makes Louie out to be far worse than he actually was, there was little indication he was planning on enslaving Mowgli and if he wanted to kill the kid the film would of ended right there and then.. he was frustrated at not getting what he wanted, that's all.

      this version is the same as Louie from the original, to be honest, just with his darker aspects magnified.. even then it is impossible to make a King Louie character that is truly misanthropic, it goes against what Louie is..

      I'll not spoil things further but if you listen to what Louie himself says he's more than happy to share his power with Mowgli because as old Louie would say they are "cousins".. he lives in the ruins of humans, he collects human trinkets.. he wants to be a man.. plain and simple.. even if he grew a few feet and changed species to an extinct mega-ape he's still Louie.

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  • I know, But I'm talking about Bugs Bunny appearance in Duck Amunk (1953) & Daffy Duck: Fowl Play (1999) Villainous appearance against Daffy Duck.

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  • Betty Boop is sixteen years old according to her creator, that means the men that lusted after her were not pedophiles.. they were simply "dirty old men" and that's a different type of perversion altogether..

    teens (especially at sixteen) are already experimenting with sex or have sexual desires, thus older males lusting after them are still perverted but nowhere near as twisted and wicked as guys that target children who biologically are far too young to even understand sex (which is true pedophilia).

    I'm not defending any lecherous behavior but you can't throw guys that lust after teenage girls with guys who molest babies.. it'd be like comparing a standard thug with a serial-killer, both are horrible people but one is many times more depraved than the other.

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    • That, and you're confusing pedophilia with ephebophilia, which is what the old man would fall under.

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    • also Ringmaster is closer than Old Man, as Ringmaster is a sexual predator by today's standards but even then as Robin stated - there's a difference.. both morally and psychologically.

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  • so you added Extinctioner profiles on Heroes Wiki which explain in detail how absolutely disgusting Noah Man's regime is.. yet you try and say he's not a CM because he's "saving" humanity?

    First.. it is absolutely possible to be a CM and be "saving" people, if you do so in an INCREDIBLY HORRIFIC fashion.. Noah wants to enslave, torture and kill EVERY NON-HUMAN he comes across.. that's genocide on a level surpassing history's most cruel tyrants.

    Now maybe if Noahn cared for humanity he'd narrowly escape but here's the deal.. HE DOESN'T.. he basically makes the men that work for him into a Kill Squad and a great many of them are robots.. it's suggested Noah isn't even really getting backing from Earth as a whole..

    if that's true then Noah isn't even doing his "job", he's a war criminal.. even if he is trying to "save" humanity he's needlessly cruel and on a level far worse than most:

    for example he didn't just destroy a world, he forced the sole male survivor to WATCH the world explode, then shaved his mane (just to humiliate him).. furthermore it is common practice for hybrids captured by Noah to be forced into things like drinking the blood of their own species.. he's a horrible bastard and makes us root for the heroes, despite them not being human.. because they at least show more "humanity" than Noah.

    If Noah is the future of humanity.. we don't deserve to be saved.

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    • oh.. and Scarlet's profile on Heroes Wiki alone shows Noah is a CM, you *wrote* that article : his reaction to First Contact, where families gathered to greet his ship with nothing but peaceful intentions was to destroy the entire station.. wiping out those whose only "crime" was to be "non human" (and this was not even off-screen, we actually see that infant in its mother's arms as Noah's ship vaporizes them.. that's a baby.. try and explain that as "saving" humanity)

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  • Hitler is mocked a LOT.. Dad's Army was a comedy series that while dealing with serious topics was about as serious as Looney Tunes : Hitler and the Nazis were as much a focus of mockery as the Home Guard themselves.. the show was all about trying to see the "human" side of a nasty period of history.. there was NO room for ANY CMs in Dad's Army because the show was designed from the start to be a light-hearted comedy with slapstick, "British humor" and very little actual violence or melodrama (outside some episodes where drama was necessary for plot).

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  • characters that suffer severe mental illness should not be labelled as "bullies", many characters with mental illness are aggressive and mean-spirited but they are suffering fom emotional / personality / neurological disorders.. they are not simply trying to belittle and intimidate people (as bullies do) - they lack the ability to control their impulses.. thus lash out, it is a different game from simple bullying as most with mental illness can not understand what they are doing (or find it hard to stop).

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    • none of what you said matters.. having mental illness doesn't mean you can't be a bully.

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  • Listen, I'm just going to give you a general warning here.

    Stop abusing the Complete Monster category, don't defend/create pages on non-villains, and don't bad-mouth admins. You've already been blocked for reckless behavior so before, so I suggest you smarten up before the block span extends.

    Thank you.

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  • remember that FiM Smooze is completely different from the original, it is not evil and is not a demon.. it is only an antagonist due to certain factors in the episode but compared to the original it is nothing.

    even the original Smooze was not a CM, btw.. FiM Smooze is about as far removed from CM as you get.

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    • Smooze is still a demon, doesn't matter what canon it is in.

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    • no, it really isn't.. FiM is completely different and it DOES matter what canon Smooze is from because like I said the original was evil.. the new Smooze is firmly neutral.. and not demonic in the slightest (in fact Discord fits the role of a demon far more than Smooze, due to Discord's role)

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