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  • curprev 23:5523:55, 12 July 2023Mr. Smee 1953 Message Wall contribsm 22,123 bytes +58 What doesn't make Ra's Al Ghul the overarching antagonist of The Dark Knight Trilogy the same way Steven Jacobs is for the Planet Of The Apes reboot trilogy (go see the article), who also was influencial in more than one film (whether he wanted or it or not) and just like Ra's appeared only in the first installment of his series only to die in the same film? Tags: Reverted Source edit Mobile edit Mobile web edit
  • curprev 18:5618:56, 12 July 2023JPM2000 Message Wall contribs 22,065 bytes −50 Ra's al ghul has a larger role than just in Batman Begins Tag: Visual edit
  • curprev 18:5418:54, 12 July 2023Mr. Smee 1953 Message Wall contribsm 22,115 bytes +49 Then he cannot be considered the main antagonist of the entire trilogy due to the obvious reasons explained before. Tags: Source edit Mobile edit Mobile web edit
  • curprev 15:5515:55, 12 July 2023RadTheShadow VII Message Wall contribs 22,066 bytes −58 You can't have an overarching antagonist if there's no main and you either mention his antagonist scale for the entire trilogy or his scale for 1-3 movies, not both Tag: Undo
  • curprev 08:0608:06, 12 July 2023Mr. Smee 1953 Message Wall contribsm 22,124 bytes +58 Restored Tinky Star version. Ra's Al Ghul is the primary villain only in Batman Begins and died in the same film, never to return again (the hallucination in The Dark Knight Rises doesn't count), and his legacy lived on in some way through inspiration of Bane and Talia in TDKR. Therefore overarching is right. Tags: Manual revert Reverted Source edit Mobile edit Mobile web edit

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  • curprev 16:3516:35, 26 April 2023Looperreallyreallysucks Message Wall contribs 20,557 bytes −4 Honestly considering locking the page at this point. Tag: Source edit
  • curprev 06:3406:34, 26 April 2023Valkerone Message Wall contribs 20,561 bytes −11 If you want to learn the hard way, the hard way it shall be. When I said that blocks would be in order if this edit warring didn't die down after a whole month, I meant it. Tags: Manual revert Source edit
  • curprev 01:1601:16, 26 April 2023Guido Geller Message Wall contribsm 20,572 bytes −1 Typo error. Anyway, read the previous explanation I left. Tags: Manual revert Reverted Visual edit Mobile edit Mobile web edit
  • curprev 01:1401:14, 26 April 2023Guido Geller Message Wall contribsm 20,573 bytes +12 Also Joker's impact is felt in The Dark Knight Rises despite not appearing (he forced Batman into self-exile), and the fact that Ra's trained Bruce certainly makes him influential but certainly not the main antagonist of the trilogy, this logic could be used elsewhere. Plus, Bane and Talia, banned by Ra's, created their own League of Assassins, not related to Ra's and nome of them are martial artists. Bane even used Dent's hidden corruption by Joker to push his plan further and spread chaos. Tags: Reverted Visual edit Mobile edit Mobile web edit
  • curprev 01:0201:02, 26 April 2023Bluedeadredemption Message Wall contribs 20,561 bytes −11 Let it go. It is almost universally agreed that he is the main villain of the whole trilogy, his impact is felt in all three movies, as he was the one who trained Bruce Wayne to become Batman to begin with. Tags: Undo Reverted
  • curprev 00:5900:59, 26 April 2023Guido Geller Message Wall contribsm 20,572 bytes +11 Yes, and it's very convenient for you to use your position to shame users who use based arguments and shaming them just because they simply want to correct inaccurate information they had to wait an entire month to fix. Tags: Manual revert Reverted Visual edit Mobile edit Mobile web edit

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  • curprev 12:1512:15, 25 March 2023Valkerone Message Wall contribsm 20,561 bytes 0 Protected "Ra's al Ghul (Nolanverse)": Edit warring: Antagonist fussing. Bans will be handed out should this continue. ([Edit=Allow only administrators] (expires 12:15, 25 April 2023 (UTC)) [Move=Allow only administrators] (expires 12:15, 25 April 2023 (UTC)))
  • curprev 12:1412:14, 25 March 2023Valkerone Message Wall contribs 20,561 bytes −44 Ra's not only made an appearance in the third film flashbacks, but the entirety of the League of Shadow's efforts in Rises, including that of Talia and Bane, lies on the seeds Ra's planted to begin with. Joker never makes another appearance again after the second film and his influence in Rises is nowhere near as large as Ra's. So yes, Joker is completely benched to one work and to push he's the main villain of a trilogy is ludicrous. I am so sick of dealing with this mentality.
  • curprev 03:5803:58, 25 March 2023Guido Geller Message Wall contribsm 20,605 bytes +45 The problem is that also Ra's al Ghul appears in one single work of the series, unless you want to count Bruce's dream or allucination caused by his physical pain, weakness and mental condition in the pit. Also, I think I gave a pretty detailed and logical explanation. Tags: Source edit Mobile edit Mobile web edit

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  • curprev 10:5010:50, 24 March 2023Valkerone Message Wall contribs 20,560 bytes −46 Trying to push a villain who only shows up in one work of a series as "the main/one of the main antagonists of the franchise" is a trend that really needs to die out.
  • curprev 09:2009:20, 24 March 2023Guido Geller Message Wall contribsm 20,606 bytes +45 Yes, but the corruption of Harvey Dent led to the lies of Gordon to protect Gotham from itself and led Batman to become a wanted "criminal" and to be an exiled and recluse from society for years as Bruce Wayne. Plus, when Bane revealed the truth about Harvey Dent, chaos and loss of hope was created as Joker wanted, though temporarily. Worth to mention also that the new League of Shadow formed by Bane with its new members is not directly related to Ra's al Ghul, since Bane was banned by Ra's. Tags: Source edit Mobile edit Mobile web edit

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  • curprev 05:0205:02, 23 March 2023Btmnctwn Message Wall contribsm 20,561 bytes −57 Yes, Joker is prominent, but his only influence in the thrid film was with Harvey Dent's crimes being covered up by Gordon, whihc wouldn't have been the case if Joker hadn't turned Harvey into Two-Face in the first place. Tag: Source edit
  • curprev 04:4404:44, 23 March 2023Guido Geller Message Wall contribsm 20,618 bytes +33 Joker is very pivotal in the trilogy, from the end of Batman Begins to The Dark Knight Rises. Plus, let's stay on just leader and not founder, I really doubt he was alive during the Rome, Dark Plague and London events, since he's not literally immortal like the canon Ra's al Ghul. Tags: Source edit Mobile edit Mobile web edit

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  • curprev 17:3717:37, 21 September 2022Btmnctwn Message Wall contribsm 20,763 bytes +58 Harvey's death and the legacy created by Gordon and Batman's lie had a larger part in the plot due to how Gordon felt more guilty about the dishonesty surrounding the lie that would eat him up on the inside, in addition to Batman being a fugitive still despite stopping Bane's goons at the stock market exchange from fleeing. Bane revealing the truth to Gotham also lead to anarchy as the bomb counted down. Tag: Source edit

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