Could he be considered a "Redeemed villain"? He did, after all, refuse to obey Shen's orders after seeing his true intentions. Curly-BraceXD 00:55, December 23, 2011 (UTC)

I think that's more of an Even Evil Has Standards type of thing. But it depends on the definition of "redeemed". He didn't join the good guys, but he disobeyed the Big Bad for a noble reason. Not sure if he really was against what Shen was planning as much as apalled at the suggestion that he would kill his own men.--Snakewhip 01:04, December 23, 2011 (UTC)

True, but, hypothetically, do you think that if Shen didn't kill him, he would've helped the Five somehow? Curly-BraceXD 00:10, December 24, 2011 (UTC)

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