I got to ask: how is he an actual villain? I mean the one thing at the end was portrayed as wrong but apparently not illegal considering he supposedly never suffered legal problems if the Cars 3 section is accurate. It's a dirty tactic and all but wouldn't that simply make him an antagonist considering I've heard someone does similar in the third film yet they weren't deemed an actual villain? Jester of chaos (talk) 13:31, January 21, 2018 (UTC)
- I don't think someone necessarily has to break the law to be considered a villain. Also, this character was the one that caused a car crash in the first film, wasn't it? Is that what this is referring to? Wikification (talk) 14:07, January 21, 2018 (UTC)
- Well unless it's a corrupt official in control of the law generally you have to break the law to be a villain. On the crash from what I recall he caused only one person to crash and it's portrayed as a cowardly/dirty tactic but only to where he's booed and denied a contract he wanted because they didn't want him due to bad publicity. Apparently someone did similar to his tactic in the third film so I am trying to see how he's any different. Jester of chaos (talk) 14:18, January 21, 2018 (UTC)
Well, that person was a racer and he lost control and hit other cars and was in the wreck in the third film.--J.S 13:12, May 16, 2018 (UTC)User:Josejim1307
ok, this dude isn't actually a villain, you know, in this universe this is like track races right? all he did was trip a bunch of people to win and he got one hurt by chance, that's not a villain, that's just an asshole cheater.
Yeah, it can seem like he is not a villain. But also consider, he cheated by physically assaulting many competitors and causing major injuries to them by having them crash, one even had major injuries he left, and he wanted them to get hurt just to make sure he can win. By evilness concerned, he basically barely counts, and not as a grey zone.The Pro-Wrestler (talk) 18:35, 17 April 2021 (UTC)User:The Pro-Wrestler