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He was passed as a Complete Monster, but he's not that evil, is he? Even if so, he's an On & Off Villain, which cannot be passed as a monster. Also, he seems to just be a stereotypical Card Carrying villain who's not that bad. As i remember, he also showed a side of remorse in one of the comics. I don't remember which one it is, but it was him. DiabolicCade (talk) 12.32 November 1, 2015

Post-Crisis is a Complete Monster who just does everything including rape for fun. Post-Crisis a different continuity from the previous set series of comics who isn't On & Off, remorseful or anything then just a depraved mad man who enjoys hurting people in the worst ways possible. Most versions he's not a CM but in Post-Crisis he fits the bill that's why he's under Type dependent on version. Jester of chaos (talk) 14:46, November 1, 2015 (UTC)

Exactly. He's not always a Complete Monster, therefore it should not be put on, unless the versions split from each other. DiabolicCade (talk) 17.42 November 1, 2015

We have characters like James Moriarty who are only in one or two versions that count, Sabretooth (Marvel), who despite what TV Tropes says no longer counts in the comics due to having helped the heroes and turned good briefly (same with modern comics where people made Carnage do good briefly thus no longer truly counts) so thats why we have Type dependent for. It says not all but one or two Versions count for certain categories that otherwise contradict others. Jester of chaos (talk) 16:49, November 1, 2015 (UTC)

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