Sorry, but since the movie hasn't been released yet, there isn't much more information to write in this page. 9614loel 08:45, June 16, 2015.
- So what? Just because the movie isn't out yet shouldn't mean anything and there are villains on here with far less information.
Those are dumb reasons and I don't appreciate my work being carelessly erased for some senseless rule.Werebereus - ಠ_ಠ 23:49, January 29, 2016 (UTC)
Damned Soul[]
It explicitly states that a villain cannot qualify as a Damned Soul if their soul is wiped from existence, causing them to have no afterlife, so why would Kai qualify? His spirit was destroyed in the spirit realm, so he has no afterlife.
Pure Evil?
Kai Wins[]
What if Kai also took Po's chi and the pandas failed to save Po and this would have led to Kai turning Li Shan, Ping, Master Tigress and all the other pandas in to Jombies and could you imagine how this would have changed the movie because K only Kai and the Jamie's would have been the only creatures on Earth if Kai succeeded 100% in all of his goals in Kung Fu Panda 3.
Fallen Heroes[]
I believe that Kai the Collector is a Fallen Hero, among with many other villains such as Zuko, and that the definition of "Fallen Heroes" should be reconsidered on Villains Wiki. Here is a more accurate and nuanced definition. **All of my edits to all wikis are in good faith.** The concept of Fallen Heroes extends beyond traditional notions of heroism. It encompasses individuals who, regardless of whether they have performed great acts of heroism, started with good intentions but became corrupted or engaged in harmful behaviors. It's unfortunate when categories like "Fallen Heroes" are dismissed or overlooked simply because a character may not fit the conventional hero archetype or have performed grand heroic acts. The concept of a Fallen Hero allows for a deeper exploration of character development, moral complexity, and the potential for redemption or change. By recognizing that individuals can fall from grace, regardless of their initial heroic status or lack thereof, we acknowledge the complexities of human nature and the potential for both good and evil within individuals. It's important to foster open discussions and consider diverse perspectives when categorizing characters or analyzing their journeys. This allows for a more inclusive and nuanced understanding of their moral arcs and the impact of their actions. Here's a link to my definition of Fallen Heroes on my wiki, and the explanation, according to my Wiki: These are characters or real life people who have turned to the dark side (at least slightly), and have lost some or all of their noble traits. In other words, these characters and real life people went from good people to committing sinful, bad, or even rude behaviour, however, they may still be good at heart. Anyone who was formerly a good person counts, for example, Cassandra from Rapunzel's Tangled Adventure (a.k.a. Tangled: The Series) and Zuko from Avatar: The Last Airbender count as a Fallen Heroes because they were good people in the beginning, but fell to the dark side later on, then redeem themselves. Please do not remove the Fallen Heroes category from a page simply because the person or character did nothing "truly heroic" before falling to the dark side. We consider this to be vandalism and vandalism is a serious offense on this wiki, with a block time of 7 days. Technically, most villains and heroes count as "Fallen Heroes". There are a few exceptions to this Fallen Hero rule, however, these villains/heroes are still considered tragic: A robot programmed to be bad: If a villain is a robot and is programmed to be bad from the very start, they should go under Tragic instead of Fallen Heroes. People or living things with only slightly bad manners do not count, as they do not do anything truly bad, but are just a little bit inconsiderate such as chewing with their mouth open. They should go under Rude or Tragic instead. People or living things who have depression or are born with it but only do good things, and do not yell, condescend, or overreact, do not count. They should go under Mentally Ill, Remorseful and/or Tragic instead.
Note: People or living things who even occasionally yell, condescend, overreact, or hurt someone's feelings do in fact count. However, if they are possessed/brainwashed into doing it, have clouded judgement for whatever reason, and their envy caused people to use their weaknesses to their advantage and brainwash them, they should also fall under Possessed/Brainwashed or Envious, while also falling under the Fallen Heroes category, to help clarify that their envy or clouded judgement caused them to become Fallen Heroes.
The text below the link to the Fallen Heroes text is from my wiki.
Move request[]
It turns out he is actually named "General Kai". So I suggest that the article gets moved to have a new title named "General Kai"