Madara is a Complete Monster & not an Anti Villain
Madara is literary a Complete Monster with sense of honor. How in the world did he become an anti-villain in the first place anyway? I checked that category particularly & I saw that almost everyone there have helped protagonists countless times & fought another threatening evil force such as Doofenshmirtz, Magneto, Mr. Krabs, Ice King & Kurumi Tokisaki. Madara never helped a protagonist in the first place or was revoked by the actions of another villain as he was disgusted by other villains instead. He literary counts as a monster due to following reasons: 1. He crossed MEH multiple times (even admitted one on purpose by how he orchestrated Rin's death) 2. He showed no remorse 3. He never was presented in a positive way 4. Was hated by many 5. Never redeemed as he died in disgrace 6. He was revoked by other villains (Sasuke, Orochimaru, Kauto, Taka & later Obito in particular). 7. Virtuously Vile as he shows some respect on his fight with Might Guy 8. He destroyed the world & claims he is saving it & 9. He is in the same league with top anime villains Sosuke Aizen from Bleach & Cell from Dragon Ball. The excuse in TV Tropes ins lterary invalid as it is a mistake. Not everything in TV Tropes are correct & this wiki is fully not TT itself(Swoobatman (talk) 02:29, June 30, 2014 (UTC))
I agree with you and have spoken to Balthus Dire and he agreed to remove the Anti-Villain part but he has said he cant label him a complete monster due to genuine praise and he love on a somwhat twisted level for family and mentioned while Virtuously Vile mentions Complete Monsters with genuine respect he doesn't feel that virtue can apply to Complete Monsters and I respect his opinion on a personal degree as I do all non trolls users.Jester of chaos 14:01, June 30, 2014 (UTC)
It's okay if Anti-Villains is remove & I'm glad with it. I'll let others decide whether CM & Virtuously Vile should be returned. Good day!!!!! (Swoobatman (talk) 00:21, July 1, 2014 (UTC))
Just doing what i can and have a great chaotic day man!Jester of chaos 00:41, July 1, 2014 (UTC)
Tsukuyomi and Amaterasu
Madara has never been shown with those abilities. Susano is granted to a user who awakens the power of both their Mangekyo. Obito/Kakashi's Mangekyo powers were Kamui and he still used Susanoo.Cloudtheavenger (talk) 07:13, February 9, 2016 (UTC)
