I'm finding it hard to class Adam Mahn in terms of his (supposed) CM status - according to TV Trops both he and Xenif count BUT Xenif can't (for one) count since Xenif is fuelled by rage over the loss of a lover, who he still wants to be with.. so Xenif is no CM.. he's fuelled by a real love (albeit twisted by hatred etc).

Adam Mahn is one of these characters that at first seems horrific (and is) but then you got to think.. humans are pretty much wiped out (or at least devastated) in this story and Earth has become inhabited by anthropomorphic animals, which humans made.. returning to Earth Adam wants to make it a human colony again, he sees the inhabitants as animals (which they are, technically) and does horrible things to them (and other species) but in the end he could be trying to save humanity.. or he could just be a sadistic asshole.. we just don't know.. so unless his actions alone can make him a CM I don't see there being an easy solution to it at the moment.

(plus he's in competition in heinous standards with Stalker and Wylde, who both like to rape and *EAT* people.. for fun.. yet are not seen as CMs for some reason) Chris-Wreckless (talk) 02:28, September 26, 2014 (UTC)

destroying an entire planet is CM status, especially after what they did to Umnus - they forced him to watch his world get destroyed, shaved his mane and stripped him naked.. that's a war-crime.. Noah may or may not be wanting to "improve" humanity but he is a CM to the Extinctioners, his forces have raped, killed and mercilessly exploited / enslaved entire populations (women, children etc) - he's a dictator of the highest order, he's only complex because he is a multi-being of sorts (lots of clones) Ytirar (talk) 00:41, September 27, 2014 (UTC)

Extinctioner villains are pretty damn sadistic and cruel as it is a surprisingly dark series (as are many anthropomorphic series as the genre can be very mature) - even them Noah stands out as probably the closest the series got to a "Space Hitler" and was thus the top of the villain heap, save for Xenif and since Xenif is more a cosmic entity than a dictator intent on global genocide Noah still technically outranks him as he is needlessly wicked.. humans are rarely seen in Extinctioners but the creator states numerous times he wants them to be "neutral" rather than pure evil, Noah however is the embodiment of "Humans are Bastards" Inferno Pendragon (talk) 14:16, November 8, 2015 (UTC)

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