Well, shouldn't this article be only about Tyrion's more villainous novel side, just like the article Ellaria Sand is about this character's TV series villainous side? Clearly Tyrion is not a villain in the TV series. --Bulletproofvalentine (talk) 17:01, July 5, 2016 (UTC)


If Daenerys can be deleted whom teeters to anti-hero to full-on psycho why is Tyrion different? The deletion template also saying why Tyrion is a villain is the same goals Daenerys is trying to accomplish. Feels like a double standard is all.

(LucIsZ12 (talk) 15:03, October 1, 2017 (UTC))

This is the problem I have with these 2 characters. GRRM points out that he never meant for them to be good, bad, anti-heroes, or anti-villains whatever. They are meant to be human beings who are both selfish, friendly, and despicable. Because in this old-styled universe's morals and almost everyone being murderous and despicable, people have hard time to tell if characters like Tyrion and Dany are allowed to stay or not. And that is why I never bothered to add them here, but someone eventually did. Another thing is that the last 2 books are mostly set up for book 6, which might finally have more material to decide Tyrion and Daenerys' position, yet it never comes out. If one day, the book version of Daenerys becomes way too much villainous for this wiki to ignore, she will return. Same for Tyrion if he gets deleted again. Personally, I have nothing to agree with Tyrion' mindless obsession of revenge, destruction, and self-pity just because of the Tysha thing. But POV characters all look like good "anti-heroes" only because you are meant to read as themselves in their own worlds, outside the judgements of their enemies and victims. Like Dany, where everyone else is made to look bad to make her look better. Even worse in the show with them and Renly, where they have been whitewashed to insanity. We got rid of Daenerys, only because her victims have no POV and are all made to look like villains, instead of freedom fighters. Thus, by looking too much anti-heroic, it was deleted.

Like Daenerys, I'm neutral with this page and I can only point the bad of the character and the villainous plans from books who are set up for the real written action that never comes. RandomDudeDude (talk) 15:23, October 1, 2017 (UTC)

Every POV of Tyrion is negative (including his own) is prejudiced though. They all see him in a negative light because they can't see past his dwarfism and not the half-good half-bad human he is.

(LucIsZ12 (talk) 15:51, October 1, 2017 (UTC))


wasn't Tyrion deleted already on this wiki under the stance that while a flawed anti-hero he inhabits a world so grimdark that he's far, far better than the actual villains? EvilLamp (talk) 19:00, November 14, 2016 (UTC)

No. RandomDudeDude (talk) 05:13, November 15, 2016 (UTC)

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