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  • Jester of chaos
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    21:28, August 29, 2019

    I appreciate it f you stop trying to un edit the additonal info of the recent changed pages. I was putting more details and info, but you changed them and leaving out important info for profile. Isaac Heller is so a liar, cause he lied about Emma not being in his book too. OUAT Hook's crime was too lying because he lied so many times, that's also what makes him not fully redeemed. And for the record, the info for Snow and David were true bacause none of what we seen was real and those were not by free will. Only by the creation of the former author. And Cruella's crime too is lying because she lied to Maleficent about Lily and lied to David about James, right before both people learn what really happened.

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    • Lying is not a crime so it should not be listed. As for Snow and Charming it's still an alternate reality so it's real in its own sense thats why there is an Alternate Reality category.

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    • FanoftheMagicMirror wrote:
      Lying is not a crime so it should not be listed. As for Snow and Charming it's still an alternate reality so it's real in its own sense thats why there is an Alternate Reality category.

      This is where you are wrong Lying is so a crime. Lying is like making false statements. Lying was used out of treachery. Just like how Scar lied to Simba out of treachery. People were known to be prosecuted for lying, according to my research. So lying does so count as a crime. And the fact is, this alternate reality you spoke of, was not real. It only brainwashed everyone, and it never existed, it doesn't exist anymore. It was all erased, wiped out, all dusted away. Not even the actions were real.

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    • No lying is not a crime unless lying under oath and sworn in which is call perjury or misleading the head of government for personal gain which would just be labeled treachery or perjury. We are not putting "Lying" in a crime section.

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    • Jester of chaos wrote:
      No lying is not a crime unless lying under oath and sworn in which is call perjury or misleading the head of government for personal gain which would just be labeled treachery or perjury.
      You misinterpreted and missed my points. They are It is so a crime, but that only depends what it is about. And I am not refering to lies like saying "my eyes are blue" when they are not. When it comes to villains, all the lies that they made were all crime based, including Lying about someone's murder. That's what villains like Scar or Hook did after about murdering the real heroe's fathers and left them under a lie their who lives. Those were crimes. Judge Claude Frollo lied about his crime all of Quasimodo's life. Breaking a verbal deal out of evil is like lying. Framing someone for a crime they didn't commit is like lying too. That's what villains do. And it is not really a character flaw. All these lies they made were to hurt people. Their sort of lying is still a crime either way.
      We are not putting "Lying" in a crime section.

      If you are not putting lying in any crime section, then you people wouldn't have put it on Regina's crime section in the first place either. Wouldn't you? I saw it on her criminal section. Go see for yourself.

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    • Lose the attitude, also you do realize we've removed it from pages long before you and merely someone probably either didn't see it added or was unaware, right? Lying is negative but not necessarily always a crime or pretty much everyone ever would of served jail time and the instances they are considered crimes have actual legal terms in severe cases.

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    • Jester of chaos wrote:
      Lose the attitude, also you do realize we've removed it from pages long before you and merely someone probably either didn't see it added or was unaware.
      I'm was making any attidude. You misinterpreted. And No, I saw it I saw it on her crime section like an hour ago today, before this comment. That was not long before. I was so aware it was added in.
      Lying is negative but not necessarily always a crime or pretty much everyone ever would of served jail time and the instances they are considered crimes have actual legal terms in severe cases.

      Aha, you just said "not necessarily always." Which exactly points out it is sometimes a crime. That's what I tried to explain by giving examples of how it was used as a crime. I'm done.

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    • You do realize I said the few times where it's illegal which I even gave the rare times it is a legitimate are given actual legal names like "perjury" as such "Lying" is not to be added to the infobox. You might find one here and there which we cleanup as we see because we can't alway immediately see it and people do abuse the infoboxes with using terms not always accurate.

      Edit: Yes I brought back this thread to make it clear so you can't claim you've never been told why.

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